OFFICIAL Bryce Gibbs [Discussion]

[system]

**I heard earlier this year that WT are still back paying his contract.** So why not make the most of it and get him back if he is genuinely capable of seeing out his last year at NRL

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Are we still paying Bryce?? FMD! Our club is hopeless when it comes to getting caught up in this type of debacle. How many ex-players and ex-coaches are we still footing the bill for?

I look forward to seeing the the Sharks fall apart with Noyce back-loading contracts. They have a rapidly closing window for a title run

 

[LaT]

Weren't we backloading contracts well after Noyce left? Or was it that he started the ball rolling?

 

[happy_tiger]

Weren't we backloading contracts well after Noyce left? Or was it that he started the ball rolling?

Everyone back loads contracts , its just a matter of making sure that these players we backload are worth it

 

[system]

Weren't we backloading contracts well after Noyce left? Or was it that he started the ball rolling?

We were well on our path to salary cap disaster by the deals put in place by Noyce before departing.

Humpty exacerbated the situation further.

Every club backloads deals but we did it in a way that meant we had no way of meeting commitments and remaining within the cap

 

[Fade_To_Black]

IMO contracts should not be allowed to be back-loaded. If a player has signed a 5 year contract for $2.5 million then his payments should strictly be paid in equal instalments of $500k per season.
This would stop the rort of say Gasnier from a few years ago when he was reportedly playing for $70k or so and he helped the Drags win a premiership that season, there is just too much scope for dodgy dealings when players are being acquired this way by clubs.

If a club cannot afford to fit all of it's stars under the salary cap by paying their contracts evenly for the term of their contract then they have to let a few players go, tough luck. That way it would help spread the talent around between the clubs as well instead of the current situation where teams like the Rorters stockpile talent and (supposedly) have to deal with the consequences in the years to come.

How much was SBW supposedly playing for this season?…..probably $100k :unamused: :deadhorse:

Creative accounting at it's finest and shonkiest.

 

[LaT]

I'm no fan of Gasnier style rorts either. but massaging the cap should be allowed within certain limits.

I would like the NRL to investigate ways that clubs can, through either good management, junior development or financial acumen, put themselves in a position to prosper for a good number of years, instead of the usual examples where teams make the GF and are preceded to be ripped apart by cap restraints.

Although I guess Manly/Storm and to a lesser extent Brisbane are the exceptions to the rule in that they are usually contenders every year. Most teams seem to build well and fall after a year or two because of the cap, I'd like to see success rewarded more consistently.

How this can be done is the big question, would rewarding long serving players help, maybe a luxury tax like some US sports, relaxation of 3rd party deals etc.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Can see what you are saying LaT but the last thing we want is too see just a handful of the richest and well-connected clubs winning the premiership every year like in the Premier League soccer. I think one of the best things about the NRL is the fact that in the last 10 years or so nearly every team (if not all of them) have had a stint in the finals, equality is a great trait to strive for as a competition.

Teams usually get ripped apart after winning a premiership because teams pay massive overs to poach premiership-winning players, that will never change.

Rewarding long-term players is definitely the way forward. Clubs should get discounts for players that have played for them for 5 years, not the current 10 years, that is too long a time in a ferocious collision sport like ours where careers are normally short.

Clubs should also be compensated financially in some way for producing their own juniors and bringing them into grade, not just raping other teams' talent like the Roosters do continually. How often do we see talented juniors that never get the chance to play for the club that nurtured them?, they get tempted away by the highest bidder.

 

[Wacko_Jacko]

His going to playing in Group 6 was the rumour

 

[genoshan]

I was told today by the president of a South Coast club that he will be playing for Wests Illawarra with Jason Ryles being the captain coach .,., Thats a decent front row for a South Coast team.

 

[happy_tiger]

IMO contracts should not be allowed to be back-loaded. If a player has signed a 5 year contract for $2.5 million then his payments should strictly be paid in equal instalments of $500k per season.
This would stop the rort of say Gasnier from a few years ago when he was reportedly playing for $70k or so and he helped the Drags win a premiership that season, there is just too much scope for dodgy dealings when players are being acquired this way by clubs.

If a club cannot afford to fit all of it's stars under the salary cap by paying their contracts evenly for the term of their contract then they have to let a few players go, tough luck. That way it would help spread the talent around between the clubs as well instead of the current situation where teams like the Rorters stockpile talent and (supposedly) have to deal with the consequences in the years to come.

How much was SBW supposedly playing for this season?…..probably $100k :unamused: :deadhorse:

Creative accounting at it's finest and shonkiest.

Every club does it FTB

Darren Lockyer's biggest contract was supposedly $250k with the third party deals

The problem is becoming who has the best benefactors prepared to offer third party deals

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Without a doubt every club does it Happy but it just doesn't seem right that a top-shelf player can be squeezed into a team under a paltry 1st year contract. That is why whatever the term of your contract, the money should be paid out evenly for those years.

If we get to the stage where the biggest bankroll produces the best teams (as it is on the verge of now) I am sure plenty of people will be disgusted and driven from supporting the NRL IMO. As they should be. The EPL soccer is a joke for that very reason. Sure it has all the money in the world but if it is the case of only 3 or 4 powerhouse teams win the championship every year then what is the point of having the other teams in the comp….their greatest thing to aspire to is fighting off relegation.

 

[Meevinman]

As long as he wouldn't be constantly burdened by injury, I don't see a problem

 

[crouching_tiger]

Humphreys is!!

Crouching Tiger…......can you comment on the below article. Either you are making crap up or Humphreys is.
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ARTICLE

Another piece of good news for Wests Tigers is the extension given to prop Andrew Fifita following an agreement between Andrew and the Club to exercise an option in his current contract for the 2012 season.

Fifita, 21, has been a revelation for Wests Tigers since making his NRL debut in Round Two last year after joining the Club from Griffith Waratahs. Like Woods, he too was a member of the NSW Emerging Blues squad.

His mobility, hard work and offloads have seem him develop into a regular member of the Wests Tigers forward pack. Fifita has played 31 NRL matches for Wests Tigers and represented Tonga last year.

“I’m enjoying my footy here at Wests Tigers and I’m learning every day. We have a good squad here so it is exciting to know that I will be apart of that for a while yet,'' Fifita said.

Wests Tigers Chief Executive Stephen Humphreys said that it was important to secure Woods and Fifita for a longer period, especially after both players progression through the Club’s development system.

“Aaron and Andrew are showing maturity beyond their years and are perfect examples of the depth we now have throughout our player roster,” Humphreys said.

“They’ve both had a lot more game time this year which will only benefit their development and the Club in the long run."

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Better late than never CT :wink:

 

[happy_tiger]

Crazy talk , next thing you'll try and tell me that Johnny Morris is gone as well

 

[ulluru22]

Holy crap!! I just went back in time!!

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[tig_prmz]

Just saw on TFS that he's retiring this year. Apologies if there has been a thread on him earlier but gotta say well done to Bryce on a fantastic career.

IMO one of the most underrated players to play the game. He wasn't the great tackle breaker in attack but he was our defense for a long time. His defensive technique was probably than most who play the game. A joker off the field but was pretty smart on the field esp later in his career.

I still think lock was his best position as he could play long minutes as well.

Good luck to him post Nrl.

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[Defiant]

He retired last year but came back to help the sharks. True clubman.

 

[Irvine]

Another one off the payroll..Great news.

 

[Paris_Cobbs]

'The minister for defense' as Tim Sheens dubbed him. Bryce had surprising pace for a prop and pulled off some amazing cover defending tackles.

He scored a try in the 2005 Grand Final and, as far as I know, never scored another one. That has to be some kind of record.

Ironically, he goes out in the same year as his good friend Liam Fulton. I just wish he had gone out in Tigers colours.

Good luck for the future, Bryce.