Bunker blues

@innsaneink said:
@Nelson said:
@Geo. said:
Shepherd's are Shepherds..When you ran behind your own player everyone knew it was a penalty..simple..

They then had to change it to obstruction ..you get the ..Was the defender impeded from making a tackle inside shoulder outside shoulder…. blah blah blah BS...

Rod for there own back...

It's simple for the players - if you're running across the field behind your teammates and you suddenly see a gap that looks too good to be true then it probably is.

Smart defenders will just ''get impeded'' by running into an attacking player just in case it goe to the VR

That the price you pay for running behind your own player. This aint gridiron.
 
@southerntiger said:
@innsaneink said:
@Nelson said:
@Geo. said:
Shepherd's are Shepherds..When you ran behind your own player everyone knew it was a penalty..simple..

They then had to change it to obstruction ..you get the ..Was the defender impeded from making a tackle inside shoulder outside shoulder…. blah blah blah BS...

Rod for there own back...

It's simple for the players - if you're running across the field behind your teammates and you suddenly see a gap that looks too good to be true then it probably is.

Smart defenders will just ''get impeded'' by running into an attacking player just in case it goe to the VR

That the price you pay for running behind your own player. This aint gridiron.

Exactly. Start giving the players any more leeway, and coaches will suddenly come up with some new "moves" involving players running behind other players.

Players (esp. Johnson) should know not to run behind others, and they should also know not to contact defenders if someone is running behind them. Jump out the way if you have to.
 
@Harvey said:
I would actually like that one clarified. They ruled Mannering was more than 10 away (he was to the side), but he was in line with the contest. I thought they had to to stay 10m back.

Harvey, They have to be outside a 10 metre circle around the receiver.
As long as they are outside it they are ok. It doesn't matter if they are in line with the receiver
 
No one has mentioned the decision to go to the Bunker for the No Try because JAC grounded the ball early in the first half.

I can only assume that it was time for a Chicken Ad because there wasn't a Warrior within 2 metres of him.
 
@shiretiger said:
No one has mentioned the decision to go to the Bunker for the No Try because JAC grounded the ball early in the first half.

I can only assume that it was time for a Chicken Ad because there wasn't a Warrior within 2 metres of him.

Makes you wonder how much the …...
Kids
Fattening
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Are paying pet chicken ad !?
 
Woods played the rules perfectly. Anthony Milford has a habbit of playing the rules too, im sure he did it to us before, had no chance of tackling a player, takes a dive off one of our players shoulder with minimal contact, try disallowed and a penalty broncos. Not to mention the other night against storm, where he threw a pass to a storm players back who was laying next to the ruck..

If the rules can be exploited for our gain, go for it. But geez will i be livid if it happens against us again haha
 
They need to be able to rule on forward passes. We have a "world record" line for swimming races, why can't we have similar technology for forward passes? Such technology would enable to the bunker to see the ball leave hands in a forward direction.
 
@shiretiger said:
No one has mentioned the decision to go to the Bunker for the No Try because JAC grounded the ball early in the first half.

I can only assume that it was time for a Chicken Ad because there wasn't a Warrior within 2 metres of him.

They thought that JAC had pushed Ayhsford
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
The decision that nearly cost us was Manu's foot on the line from the 40/20\. We were just starting to get on top, and they pulled that try out of their backside. We had the character to overcome that though.

We did well to recover from that. To not see that and let it go was a shocker.. Officials just can't get those calls wrong, and they rarely do, but unfortunately this time they did and it really hurt us. We have just as much right to complain about the officiating in that game as the Warriors, I mean they're up in arms about a try that shouldn't have even been a try! :crazy At least we have legitimate criticisms.
 
The fox team (not the kiwi commentators who are always the worst) were acting like the two obstruction calls were the worst decisions in the history of the game. I thought they were both fair calls. You can't run around your own man… we get pinged for it all the time, even when a try isn't scored.

They were also acting like Woods is the first player in history to make contact and call for a penalty... it happens all the bloody time.
 
@pHyR3 said:
@Harvey said:
Seems a lot of people are up in arms about the Warriors tries disallowed because of obstruction. Lot of comments that these cost the warriors the game.

Seem to be overlooking the forward passes in the lead up to one of the tries, Mannering scoring from a kick batted back to him despite the fact he was in front of the kicker, and the try scored off the set after Manu knocked the 40/20 kick back witha foot on the sideline.

The officiating this year has been terrible across the board.

i thought both tries were ruled on correctly, and as you pointed out there was a forward pass but i didnt notice it watching it live. still think the bunker should be allowed to rule on that - i believe they are in union

the try off the kick was perfectly legitimate by the rules. they were not in the 10, when ayshford bats it back that places them onside. a try every day of the week. unlucky for us, but the ball bounces for and against you

speaking independently, manu's foot was maybe 2cm on the touch line when he batted it back?? are you really gonna crucify the touchy for that?? i had no idea one way or another watching live.

speaking as a tigers fan, yeah that was pretty bloody annoying….

it would be very hard to rule on forward passes they would need to have a ton more cameras
 
I think Rankin milked it more than Woods. Rank definitely added some theatrics and open arms, Woods sort of ambled up, saw a defender in his road and pushed him, then complained once Johnston had run around.

But I'm with everyone here - regardless of being a Tigers or Warriors supporter, you can't run around your own player to advantage. JT said it twice in the presser and he is right.

Some commentators / media seem to think the rule changes if you are attacking from a set play or in broken play, saying things like "was he supposed to disappear?" Smart teams have worked out to pass or lob behind the decoy, so you can't get pinged for running around, but we all need to remember that decoy / block runners essentially make themselves offside and it is not the defender's obligation to run the obstacle course they sometimes present.
 
They wouldn't need any more cameras to rule on forward passes. All they need to do is superimpose a grid on the field and then see which way the ball goes on that grid. It could be done quickly and simply. Forward passes are a blight on the game as you just can't defend against them.
 
@sideline eye said:
They wouldn't need any more cameras to rule on forward passes. All they need to do is superimpose a grid on the field and then see which way the ball goes on that grid. It could be done quickly and simply. Forward passes are a blight on the game as you just can't defend against them.

They should use the soccer model which shows offsides, the 10 yrd ring for free kicks both adequately could show the 10m rule, i agree its simple if they can do it in the A league premier league ect why cant the NRL do it :bash
 
@The_Doc said:
@sideline eye said:
They wouldn't need any more cameras to rule on forward passes. All they need to do is superimpose a grid on the field and then see which way the ball goes on that grid. It could be done quickly and simply. Forward passes are a blight on the game as you just can't defend against them.

They should use the soccer model which shows offsides, the 10 yrd ring for free kicks both adequately could show the 10m rule, i agree its simple if they can do it in the A league premier league ect why cant the NRL do it :bash

Its not so simple as that.
You have to take into account the forward velocity of the player throwing the pass.
If he's running at full pelt a legal pass will travel forward with respect to the ground.
The best people to judge a forward pass is the touch judges who are running on the same line as the play.
I guess they could have cameras on each side that travel with the line of play, or just get the touchies to do their job.
 
@LARDS said:
@The_Doc said:
@sideline eye said:
They wouldn't need any more cameras to rule on forward passes. All they need to do is superimpose a grid on the field and then see which way the ball goes on that grid. It could be done quickly and simply. Forward passes are a blight on the game as you just can't defend against them.

They should use the soccer model which shows offsides, the 10 yrd ring for free kicks both adequately could show the 10m rule, i agree its simple if they can do it in the A league premier league ect why cant the NRL do it :bash

Its not so simple as that.
You have to take into account the forward velocity of the player throwing the pass.
If he's running at full pelt a legal pass will travel forward with respect to the ground.
The best people to judge a forward pass is the touch judges who are running on the same line as the play.
I guess they could have cameras on each side that travel with the line of play, or just get the touchies to do their job.

It is asking too much for officials to take into account the pace of the passer. A forward pass is a forward pass is a….....
 
@Winnipeg said:
The fox team (not the kiwi commentators who are always the worst) were acting like the two obstruction calls were the worst decisions in the history of the game. I thought they were both fair calls. You can't run around your own man… we get pinged for it all the time, even when a try isn't scored.

They were also acting like Woods is the first player in history to make contact and call for a penalty... it happens all the bloody time.

I agree. Both calls were possibly hard on the Warriors but hardly shockers.
 
Bottom line, if the calls went against us we would have these boards would be full of angry posters, but I guess at the end of the day the calls basically evened out, so the better team won
 

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