Cannel 9 News report WT fans turning on each other

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There was a fairly headed argument under the grandstand that threatened to come to blows (however did not from what i saw) at the end of the game.

Few Guys had a Woods doll with a Canterbury Jersey on and were cat calling the 3 players most of the game. A few guys sitting down in the concourse took expiation to it I believe towards the end of the game and spun around.

However I have no idea if this is the incident they were referring to.

My mate had a Woods blow up doll with a dogs Jersey with the $ sign LOL cracked me up haha

Saw those lads in the Red Lion before the game - couple of big metal looking blokes, right? I thought it was funny. One of them was in Sharks gear, mind…

Correct.

Would never start a fight or be involved in one. Just a passionate fan. More so than I since i've lost a lot of interest in league recently.
 
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I just want to know what is so wrong with Wests Tigers management? I'm not joking.

Happy was venting endlessly about Wests Tigers when it became clear that Tedesco was leaving but no specifics.

We have record memberships, increased community involvement, increased sponsorships, JV sorted with no NRL involvement or funding anymore and we have a Wests Ashfield majority board.

We now have a well respected coach who has improved this current roster within a month. We are looking competitive again compared to the first month of this season.

I read comments about our CEO Pascoe about how he isn't performing. Why? He seems to be quite competent with things going on. I hear how Marina Go is doing a poor job but all I ever read is it's because she's not a leaguie so can't run anything to do with rugby league. What utter BS.

All this noise about why the "big 3" want to leave - so what.
What about Nofo staying and proud to do so. What about all the others who have recommited? They all WANT to be here.

Can someone, anyone give me substantial, concrete evidence of why we are a "basket case"?

Our club has not had drug cheating issues with ASADA
No front page sex scandals the like of Coffs Harbour
No salary cap mismanagement involving docking of points.
No drunken player episodes involving lewd dog acts that required players taking overseas rehab.

Even this television interview with our captain who wants out didn't explain to me why we are such a poorly managed club. So many contradictions from him. We are a club always in the news - wow. For what? Trying to sort things out? Making change in any business is difficult but a sport involving huge egos? That's always a media story. That's why we are on the back page - not because we have to send a key player away in the dead of night, not because we lost all of our competition points, not because we have affidavids from lawyers representing wimen who were molested.

Why is my club so God damned awful?
Simple answer - it's not.

Agree with what you are saying cq. Good post.
 
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I just want to know what is so wrong with Wests Tigers management? I'm not joking.

Happy was venting endlessly about Wests Tigers when it became clear that Tedesco was leaving but no specifics.

We have record memberships, increased community involvement, increased sponsorships, JV sorted with no NRL involvement or funding anymore and we have a Wests Ashfield majority board.

We now have a well respected coach who has improved this current roster within a month. We are looking competitive again compared to the first month of this season.

I read comments about our CEO Pascoe about how he isn't performing. Why? He seems to be quite competent with things going on. I hear how Marina Go is doing a poor job but all I ever read is it's because she's not a leaguie so can't run anything to do with rugby league. What utter BS.

All this noise about why the "big 3" want to leave - so what.
What about Nofo staying and proud to do so. What about all the others who have recommited? They all WANT to be here.

Can someone, anyone give me substantial, concrete evidence of why we are a "basket case"?

Our club has not had drug cheating issues with ASADA
No front page sex scandals the like of Coffs Harbour
No salary cap mismanagement involving docking of points.
No drunken player episodes involving lewd dog acts that required players taking overseas rehab.

Even this television interview with our captain who wants out didn't explain to me why we are such a poorly managed club. So many contradictions from him. We are a club always in the news - wow. For what? Trying to sort things out? Making change in any business is difficult but a sport involving huge egos? That's always a media story. That's why we are on the back page - not because we have to send a key player away in the dead of night, not because we lost all of our competition points, not because we have affidavids from lawyers representing wimen who were molested.

Why is my club so God damned awful?
Simple answer - it's not.

Agree with what you are saying cq. Good post.

I personally don't think the club is divided at all. Quite the contrary. The clubs at a great place. Couldn't be better to be honest
 
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I just want to know what is so wrong with Wests Tigers management? I'm not joking.

Happy was venting endlessly about Wests Tigers when it became clear that Tedesco was leaving but no specifics.

We have record memberships, increased community involvement, increased sponsorships, JV sorted with no NRL involvement or funding anymore and we have a Wests Ashfield majority board.

We now have a well respected coach who has improved this current roster within a month. We are looking competitive again compared to the first month of this season.

I read comments about our CEO Pascoe about how he isn't performing. Why? He seems to be quite competent with things going on. I hear how Marina Go is doing a poor job but all I ever read is it's because she's not a leaguie so can't run anything to do with rugby league. What utter BS.

All this noise about why the "big 3" want to leave - so what.
What about Nofo staying and proud to do so. What about all the others who have recommited? They all WANT to be here.

Can someone, anyone give me substantial, concrete evidence of why we are a "basket case"?

Our club has not had drug cheating issues with ASADA
No front page sex scandals the like of Coffs Harbour
No salary cap mismanagement involving docking of points.
No drunken player episodes involving lewd dog acts that required players taking overseas rehab.

Even this television interview with our captain who wants out didn't explain to me why we are such a poorly managed club. So many contradictions from him. We are a club always in the news - wow. For what? Trying to sort things out? Making change in any business is difficult but a sport involving huge egos? That's always a media story. That's why we are on the back page - not because we have to send a key player away in the dead of night, not because we lost all of our competition points, not because we have affidavids from lawyers representing wimen who were molested.

Why is my club so God damned awful?
Simple answer - it's not.

Couldnt agree more. Great post.

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Probably because IC pulled Moses contract off the table. We have lost everyone managed by his uncle since.
 
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I just want to know what is so wrong with Wests Tigers management? I'm not joking.

Happy was venting endlessly about Wests Tigers when it became clear that Tedesco was leaving but no specifics.

We have record memberships, increased community involvement, increased sponsorships, JV sorted with no NRL involvement or funding anymore and we have a Wests Ashfield majority board.

We now have a well respected coach who has improved this current roster within a month. We are looking competitive again compared to the first month of this season.

I read comments about our CEO Pascoe about how he isn't performing. Why? He seems to be quite competent with things going on. I hear how Marina Go is doing a poor job but all I ever read is it's because she's not a leaguie so can't run anything to do with rugby league. What utter BS.

All this noise about why the "big 3" want to leave - so what.
What about Nofo staying and proud to do so. What about all the others who have recommited? They all WANT to be here.

Can someone, anyone give me substantial, concrete evidence of why we are a "basket case"?

Our club has not had drug cheating issues with ASADA
No front page sex scandals the like of Coffs Harbour
No salary cap mismanagement involving docking of points.
No drunken player episodes involving lewd dog acts that required players taking overseas rehab.

Even this television interview with our captain who wants out didn't explain to me why we are such a poorly managed club. So many contradictions from him. We are a club always in the news - wow. For what? Trying to sort things out? Making change in any business is difficult but a sport involving huge egos? That's always a media story. That's why we are on the back page - not because we have to send a key player away in the dead of night, not because we lost all of our competition points, not because we have affidavids from lawyers representing wimen who were molested.

Why is my club so God damned awful?
Simple answer - it's not.

nailed it.
 
http://www.foxsports.com.au/video/league/nrl/disgraceful-sowy-slams-fans!621416?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FoxNRL

Video to the brawl here. Sharks and Tigers player.
 
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/video/league/nrl/disgraceful-sowy-slams-fans!621416?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FoxNRL

Video to the brawl here. Sharks and Tigers player.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!! That's it?!!! I see more "violence" trying to get off the train at Wynard station at 8:30am. What else is in the news today?
 
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/video/league/nrl/disgraceful-sowy-slams-fans!621416?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FoxNRL

Video to the brawl here. Sharks and Tigers player.

Surely this can't be it. I go through this dance almost nightly when I tell my son to go to bed. :laughing:
 
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I just want to know what is so wrong with Wests Tigers management? I'm not joking.

Happy was venting endlessly about Wests Tigers when it became clear that Tedesco was leaving but no specifics.

We have record memberships, increased community involvement, increased sponsorships, JV sorted with no NRL involvement or funding anymore and we have a Wests Ashfield majority board.

We now have a well respected coach who has improved this current roster within a month. We are looking competitive again compared to the first month of this season.

I read comments about our CEO Pascoe about how he isn't performing. Why? He seems to be quite competent with things going on. I hear how Marina Go is doing a poor job but all I ever read is it's because she's not a leaguie so can't run anything to do with rugby league. What utter BS.

All this noise about why the "big 3" want to leave - so what.
What about Nofo staying and proud to do so. What about all the others who have recommited? They all WANT to be here.

Can someone, anyone give me substantial, concrete evidence of why we are a "basket case"?

Our club has not had drug cheating issues with ASADA
No front page sex scandals the like of Coffs Harbour
No salary cap mismanagement involving docking of points.
No drunken player episodes involving lewd dog acts that required players taking overseas rehab.

Even this television interview with our captain who wants out didn't explain to me why we are such a poorly managed club. So many contradictions from him. We are a club always in the news - wow. For what? Trying to sort things out? Making change in any business is difficult but a sport involving huge egos? That's always a media story. That's why we are on the back page - not because we have to send a key player away in the dead of night, not because we lost all of our competition points, not because we have affidavids from lawyers representing wimen who were molested.

Why is my club so God damned awful?
Simple answer - it's not.

I want to know the details as well.

I've heard that certain traitorous players wanted to have their life coach and special masseuse available to them 24/7 365 days per week but that is it.

I just can't see why we are so bad.

That Happy guy was a disgrace. He was posting broad slanderous comments towards the club with absolutely no substance.

I also asked in another thread why is the club so bad.

I want answers. At the moment they just aren't there which leads to the conclusion that we have a clique within the club that are disloyal spoilt petulant brats.

Is there really any other to view this situation ?
 
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And for what its worth, I think the current board, the current management, and the coach, are handling the situation well. I do not care to worry about the previous boards or coaches as we are looking forward to the new bus ride.

I do not agree with everything they are doing, including some of the press releases, but they are dealing with a difficult situation, involving spoilt brats that didn't like professionalism being installed, and have gone home with their bat and ball. Good luck to them. They have missed the bus.

Great post. If I am going to be picky towards the club I would state that they should be much harsher towards the players that are bringing this club into disrepute.

It is though a very difficult situation. Still I would be on the front foot and taking action to mitigate the poor behaviour of the traitors.
 
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/video/league/nrl/disgraceful-sowy-slams-fans!621416?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=FoxNRL

Video to the brawl here. Sharks and Tigers player.

Lol Soward….

Fightth make Thowie thad
 
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I just want to know what is so wrong with Wests Tigers management? I'm not joking.

Happy was venting endlessly about Wests Tigers when it became clear that Tedesco was leaving but no specifics.

We have record memberships, increased community involvement, increased sponsorships, JV sorted with no NRL involvement or funding anymore and we have a Wests Ashfield majority board.

We now have a well respected coach who has improved this current roster within a month. We are looking competitive again compared to the first month of this season.

I read comments about our CEO Pascoe about how he isn't performing. Why? He seems to be quite competent with things going on. I hear how Marina Go is doing a poor job but all I ever read is it's because she's not a leaguie so can't run anything to do with rugby league. What utter BS.

All this noise about why the "big 3" want to leave - so what.
What about Nofo staying and proud to do so. What about all the others who have recommited? They all WANT to be here.

Can someone, anyone give me substantial, concrete evidence of why we are a "basket case"?

Our club has not had drug cheating issues with ASADA
No front page sex scandals the like of Coffs Harbour
No salary cap mismanagement involving docking of points.
No drunken player episodes involving lewd dog acts that required players taking overseas rehab.

Even this television interview with our captain who wants out didn't explain to me why we are such a poorly managed club. So many contradictions from him. We are a club always in the news - wow. For what? Trying to sort things out? Making change in any business is difficult but a sport involving huge egos? That's always a media story. That's why we are on the back page - not because we have to send a key player away in the dead of night, not because we lost all of our competition points, not because we have affidavids from lawyers representing wimen who were molested.

Why is my club so God damned awful?
Simple answer - it's not.

All the talk about the club being a basket case stems from the players. Whether current, such as Woods or past, such as Anasta. That is just one side of the story, the players' side. That is the side that the media (and Happy) are running with, because those people are closer to the players these days than they are the club officials.

The other side of the story is of course the club's story and I am sure that they would not be painting such a rosy picture of the players that the media is presenting.

And as always, somewhere in the middle is the truth. As I've said elsewhere, lucky for us, Ivan Cleary is in the middle!
 
Go fishing for 4 days and look what happens! Seriously I've seen girls put on a bigger stink than that.
 
People will and do get emotive about their favourite players leaving and that is fine. I have no issues with the 3 players moving on its life we all move from job to job, house to house because we want to better ourselves and our lives.

What I do object to is players who will leave not having a go. Woods and Tedesvo are imo still trying their best for the team. Moses he should be moved on.

As for fans throwing cans at players and fighting is totally unacceptable and if found should be banned.
 
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I just want to know what is so wrong with Wests Tigers management? I'm not joking.

Happy was venting endlessly about Wests Tigers when it became clear that Tedesco was leaving but no specifics.

We have record memberships, increased community involvement, increased sponsorships, JV sorted with no NRL involvement or funding anymore and we have a Wests Ashfield majority board.

We now have a well respected coach who has improved this current roster within a month. We are looking competitive again compared to the first month of this season.

I read comments about our CEO Pascoe about how he isn't performing. Why? He seems to be quite competent with things going on. I hear how Marina Go is doing a poor job but all I ever read is it's because she's not a leaguie so can't run anything to do with rugby league. What utter BS.

All this noise about why the "big 3" want to leave - so what.
What about Nofo staying and proud to do so. What about all the others who have recommited? They all WANT to be here.

Can someone, anyone give me substantial, concrete evidence of why we are a "basket case"?

Our club has not had drug cheating issues with ASADA
No front page sex scandals the like of Coffs Harbour
No salary cap mismanagement involving docking of points.
No drunken player episodes involving lewd dog acts that required players taking overseas rehab.

Even this television interview with our captain who wants out didn't explain to me why we are such a poorly managed club. So many contradictions from him. We are a club always in the news - wow. For what? Trying to sort things out? Making change in any business is difficult but a sport involving huge egos? That's always a media story. That's why we are on the back page - not because we have to send a key player away in the dead of night, not because we lost all of our competition points, not because we have affidavids from lawyers representing wimen who were molested.

Why is my club so God damned awful?
Simple answer - it's not.

All the talk about the club being a basket case stems from the players. Whether current, such as Woods or past, such as Anasta. That is just one side of the story, the players' side. That is the side that the media (and Happy) are running with, because those people are closer to the players these days than they are the club officials.

The other side of the story is of course the club's story and I am sure that they would not be painting such a rosy picture of the players that the media is presenting.

And as always, somewhere in the middle is the truth. As I've said elsewhere, lucky for us, Ivan Cleary is in the middle!

The best three players in our club (four if you want to count Farah last year) have left or been punted unceremoniously in the past 6 months. How is this not a terrible reflection on management?

The club spout how good our sponsorship money is, except that is comes pretty much all from Brydens. We have virtually no third party support, which stops us from recruiting any genuine marquee players and having more depth in our squad. We're currently paying $1mil worth of our salary cap to players playing at other clubs, not because of previous management decisions, but because of decisions by our most recent coach and current management. We are a laughing stock amongst all the other clubs in the competition, to the point where our Chair is ignored by other clubs because she is in the pocket of John Grant and the NRL. We're currently sitting 14th in NRL & NYC and 11th in ISP, have no Junior Kangaroos reps (one who the club let go last year), no reps in the NSW U/16s and 1 in the NSW U/18s.

This is a professionally run club?
 
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I just want to know what is so wrong with Wests Tigers management? I'm not joking.

Happy was venting endlessly about Wests Tigers when it became clear that Tedesco was leaving but no specifics.

We have record memberships, increased community involvement, increased sponsorships, JV sorted with no NRL involvement or funding anymore and we have a Wests Ashfield majority board.

We now have a well respected coach who has improved this current roster within a month. We are looking competitive again compared to the first month of this season.

I read comments about our CEO Pascoe about how he isn't performing. Why? He seems to be quite competent with things going on. I hear how Marina Go is doing a poor job but all I ever read is it's because she's not a leaguie so can't run anything to do with rugby league. What utter BS.

All this noise about why the "big 3" want to leave - so what.
What about Nofo staying and proud to do so. What about all the others who have recommited? They all WANT to be here.

Can someone, anyone give me substantial, concrete evidence of why we are a "basket case"?

Our club has not had drug cheating issues with ASADA
No front page sex scandals the like of Coffs Harbour
No salary cap mismanagement involving docking of points.
No drunken player episodes involving lewd dog acts that required players taking overseas rehab.

Even this television interview with our captain who wants out didn't explain to me why we are such a poorly managed club. So many contradictions from him. We are a club always in the news - wow. For what? Trying to sort things out? Making change in any business is difficult but a sport involving huge egos? That's always a media story. That's why we are on the back page - not because we have to send a key player away in the dead of night, not because we lost all of our competition points, not because we have affidavids from lawyers representing wimen who were molested.

Why is my club so God damned awful?
Simple answer - it's not.

All the talk about the club being a basket case stems from the players. Whether current, such as Woods or past, such as Anasta. That is just one side of the story, the players' side. That is the side that the media (and Happy) are running with, because those people are closer to the players these days than they are the club officials.

The other side of the story is of course the club's story and I am sure that they would not be painting such a rosy picture of the players that the media is presenting.

And as always, somewhere in the middle is the truth. As I've said elsewhere, lucky for us, Ivan Cleary is in the middle!

The best three players in our club (four if you want to count Farah last year) have left or been punted unceremoniously in the past 6 months. How is this not a terrible reflection on management?

The club spout how good our sponsorship money is, except that is comes pretty much all from Brydens, who are fed up and looking to leave. We have virtually no third party support, which stops us from recruiting any genuine marquee players and having more depth in our squad. We're currently paying $1mil worth of our salary cap to players playing at other clubs, not because of previous management decisions, but because of decisions by our most recent coach and current management. We are a laughing stock amongst all the other clubs in the competition, to the point where our Chair is ignored by other clubs because she is in the pocket of John Grant and the NRL. We're currently sitting 14th in NRL & NYC and 11th in ISP, have no Junior Kangaroos reps (one who the club let go last year), no reps in the NSW U/16s and 1 in the NSW U/18s.

This is a professionally run club?

Is that it? Is that the concrete evidence I ask for? Your insipid, ill informed opinion?
 
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I just want to know what is so wrong with Wests Tigers management? I'm not joking.

Happy was venting endlessly about Wests Tigers when it became clear that Tedesco was leaving but no specifics.

We have record memberships, increased community involvement, increased sponsorships, JV sorted with no NRL involvement or funding anymore and we have a Wests Ashfield majority board.

We now have a well respected coach who has improved this current roster within a month. We are looking competitive again compared to the first month of this season.

I read comments about our CEO Pascoe about how he isn't performing. Why? He seems to be quite competent with things going on. I hear how Marina Go is doing a poor job but all I ever read is it's because she's not a leaguie so can't run anything to do with rugby league. What utter BS.

All this noise about why the "big 3" want to leave - so what.
What about Nofo staying and proud to do so. What about all the others who have recommited? They all WANT to be here.

Can someone, anyone give me substantial, concrete evidence of why we are a "basket case"?

Our club has not had drug cheating issues with ASADA
No front page sex scandals the like of Coffs Harbour
No salary cap mismanagement involving docking of points.
No drunken player episodes involving lewd dog acts that required players taking overseas rehab.

Even this television interview with our captain who wants out didn't explain to me why we are such a poorly managed club. So many contradictions from him. We are a club always in the news - wow. For what? Trying to sort things out? Making change in any business is difficult but a sport involving huge egos? That's always a media story. That's why we are on the back page - not because we have to send a key player away in the dead of night, not because we lost all of our competition points, not because we have affidavids from lawyers representing wimen who were molested.

Why is my club so God damned awful?
Simple answer - it's not.

All the talk about the club being a basket case stems from the players. Whether current, such as Woods or past, such as Anasta. That is just one side of the story, the players' side. That is the side that the media (and Happy) are running with, because those people are closer to the players these days than they are the club officials.

The other side of the story is of course the club's story and I am sure that they would not be painting such a rosy picture of the players that the media is presenting.

And as always, somewhere in the middle is the truth. As I've said elsewhere, lucky for us, Ivan Cleary is in the middle!

The best three players in our club (four if you want to count Farah last year) have left or been punted unceremoniously in the past 6 months. How is this not a terrible reflection on management?

The club spout how good our sponsorship money is, except that is comes pretty much all from Brydens. We have virtually no third party support, which stops us from recruiting any genuine marquee players and having more depth in our squad. We're currently paying $1mil worth of our salary cap to players playing at other clubs, not because of previous management decisions, but because of decisions by our most recent coach and current management. We are a laughing stock amongst all the other clubs in the competition, to the point where our Chair is ignored by other clubs because she is in the pocket of John Grant and the NRL. We're currently sitting 14th in NRL & NYC and 11th in ISP, have no Junior Kangaroos reps (one who the club let go last year), no reps in the NSW U/16s and 1 in the NSW U/18s.

This is a professionally run club?

I think a lot of this is subjective opinion, happy to discuss.

In regards to letting our best players go, the on field direction, including squad management has been a disaster since 2012\. Woods, Teddy, Moses, Farah were prominent members of a team that failed to make the finals. Only one is a loss by any objective measure and that is Teddy. Even in his case we were offering too much imo, although I won't lie I would have been happy if he took it.

In regards to Go, she was actually appointed for her current tenure by Wests Ashfield, independently of the NRL. She can be outvoted and is whenever Wests Ashfield vote against her. She may be on good terms with the NRL, please explain why a good relationship with the governing body is a bad thing? Also, not all the other chairs are against her. I know some supported the stance taken against Farah.

I can't comment on Brydens, you may know something I don't.

In regards to attracting marquee players. We now have the money. Perhaps the infield culture of softness is as much of a factor as the off field management in this case? Don't you think this is a possible issue? Cleary money isn't a problem for 2018.

The mil dollars in Farah and Siro goes back to 2012 when we lost a heap of players. It is a relic of previous management. Perhaps your argument is that Taylor and Go made the call on letting them go, but I think at best you could argue this is a chicken and Egg scenario. The original board that signed Farah have proven they can't manage money, or a club (Balmain had the balance of power at the time I believe).

In regards to junior talent, I agree, it is a concern, but I take comfort in the fact we have had great juniors all the years we have failed, and as I see it the development clubs need to stop doing all the dirty work for the clubs that are regularly successful. I mean true development clubs, like us, Parra and Penrith.
 
It;s being run a hell of a lot better than when Trodden Di Girolamo and Co were in charge..with the idiotic decisions they made…
 
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Go fishing for 4 days and look what happens! Seriously I've seen girls put on a bigger stink than that.

Where you go and what you catch?? More interest in your fishing than the back and forth bs we have going on at the moment Haha
 
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