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Not to detract from the current topic.

There was recent thread regarding the board. I was curious as I can only find the following info on our official website as to the make up does anyone know how the tenure of each board member?

https://www.weststigers.com.au/about/board/
 
I've been a vocal critic of Pascoe and like everyone, am looking for answers.

But I will take my Wests Tigers hat (available via the Roar Store for $39.95) off to him and the board for a few reasons:

- We now only have the backing of one leagues club (we originally had three)
- By all reports, Pascoe has us turning a profit which I suspect the board sees as extremely important to survive
- Plenty of other Sydney clubs that are reliant on pokies and have been running at a loss are really about to struggle

No doubt some of this has been at the expense of junior development which has hurt our roster.

But the tough slog will be worth it.
 
@jirskyr said in [CEO](/post/1434112) said:
As part of this conversation I'd be interested to hear about precedent in other clubs that sack or remove the CEO due to on-field performance only (or primarily). That's not a wise-crack, I'd simply like to see examples of what other clubs have done if they step their CEO down because the first grade side is unsuccessful.

I keep coming back to an example where Joe Kelly was CEO of Manly during the years they were busted for salary cap and failed to make the finals (2015-2016), and he oversaw the replacement of Geoff Toovey by Trent Barrett, which was a horror show. Barrett himself shown the door after Kelly left.

Kelly was suspended for 9 months after the Manly salary cap debacle, which I think was adjusted to 6 months on appeal. The catcher is that Kelly was hired by Roosters starting 2017 and he served his suspension whilst under the employ of the Roosters. He is STILL the CEO of the Roosters. Now if everything is to be believed about Roosters "keeping everyone they want", then Joe Kelly must be a decent CEO, even though his tenure at Manly was very ordinary and, at times, provably illegal.

The reality is the Board isn't keeping Pascoe on for the fun of it, and he's been here since the tail end of 2015, so he's on 6 years now, which means at least 1 contract extension (and he's not being fired right now, so probably on his 2nd extension).

The Board will have KPIs in place and you can only assume Pascoe is meeting those KPIs, otherwise they would have moved him on. I am going to guess it's easier to find a club CEO than a top-tier Head Coach, because CEOs can come from business but coaches can only come from rugby league.

So assuming Pascoe is meeting his KPIs and yet the team is still unsuccessful, it follows that hiring a new CEO is very likely to maintain the status quo unless you increase the KPIs. But the KPIs are on the Board, so its a criticism of the board if the CEO isn't being pushed hard enough.

And if we all concede that CEOs are generally not football operation people (they basically raise funding to support football operations), then I'm not clear how removing Pascoe will directly translate into better on-field performance.

Pascoe doesn't hire the coach, he doesn't hire the trainers, he doesn't personally select the players. He runs the business and delivers funding to the football operations departments. So in replacing him, you will only be adjusting the potential funds given to Football Ops, not the actual way in which the teams are trained or coached.

And given that Pascoe started season 2016, and Tigers have been in trouble for most seasons prior to 2016, and the current finals drought includes 4 seasons before Pascoe arrived, it's evident that the Tigers struggles are not Pascoe-centric.

Now I say all this not specifically in defence of Pascoe. I have no issues if he is sacked and he can't say he hasn't been given a decent tenure. I wouldn't have a clue who Tigers might replace him with. I'll caveat that Pascoe's predecessors were typically not well received and were replaced in short time, so a long-served CEO might be a good thing.

My cautioning is that I believe most anti-Pascoe people are just tired of his face, as much as anything else they can clearly point the finger at. And my personal opinion is that replacing Pascoe is unlikely to change the fundamental influence of the CEO.

Especially if the new CEO isn't some white-hot rugby league CEO weapon, and I don't think Tigers have a history of attracting the cutting-edge talent of the game.

Thank you. That was a good read and makes sense.
 
@needaname said in [CEO](/post/1434178) said:
Not to detract from the current topic.

There was recent thread regarding the board. I was curious as I can only find the following info on our official website as to the make up does anyone know how the tenure of each board member?

https://www.weststigers.com.au/about/board/

The board is not an elected board..they are nominated by the JV partners..
 
Yes, there are some truths that he shouldn't be responsible for footy side performances, but I still believe that the CEO cannot absolve himself of that responsibility. It's like anything in business, a CEO can ultimately be to blame if things fail on their watch. Either they have the wrong priorities or are not watching closely enough.

Take the Bank CEO's with the anti-money laundering. Now ultimately, the CEO would have put that responsibility on someone else, they would not have been in the execution and probably believed the systems were in place. But ultimately, it's that lack of oversight that has hurt them and they've stepped down.

Lets look at a few things that JP has been invovled in..

- Our junior pathways. He's let that rot and put us in this situation where we've had no junior guns coming through.
- He oversaw the signings of Packer, Matts, Reynolds & Mbye
- He's currently involved in the latter stages of our negotiations. The ones that keep falling over.
- He hid a dodgy contact for Robbie Farah, which any rookie would know was wrong.
etc.

Now, those actually aren't my biggest concerns. Instead, its something with culture based on what I've seen personally and on the media. He seems to lack execution and provides excuses. I've had my own personal involvement in this which I've detailed on the forum before, but look at the CEO updates, the club insider videos that keep falling away.... or the language he uses in the doco.

On one hand, he touts winning and excellence, but then provides excuses for misses on game day setup. Now, that culture is set at the top. Excuses and no follow-through. He doesn't lead by example. That's my biggest concern.

There is nothing worse than a leader who is all talk.
 
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.
 
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience on their board and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

Come on man, they didn't think we could build a successful football team with musicians, real-estate agents and leagues club lackies?
 
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.
 
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434230) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Educate me then on how one can become a member of Wests Tigers and vote for board appointments.
 
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434230) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed
 
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

disappointing that the sponsor won't be back simply due to the fact that the board have no idea how to run a football club, and are chaired by a bloke that prefers the sound of his voice to the thought of the organisation actually getting somewhere onfield.
 
@jadtiger said in [CEO](/post/1434237) said:
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434230) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.
 
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434235) said:
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434230) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Educate me then on how one can become a member of Wests Tigers and vote for board appointments.

You can’t directly. The Wests Tigers board is appointed by its shareholders, effectively Wests Ashfield and BRLFC.
 
@mike said in [CEO](/post/1434249) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434235) said:
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434230) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Educate me then on how one can become a member of Wests Tigers and vote for board appointments.

You can’t directly. The Wests Tigers board is appointed by its shareholders, effectively Wests Ashfield and BRLFC.

I know mate - and that's the point. There is no direct link between fans/sponsors and the board.

Theoretically, someone who's only association with Wests Tigers is the fact that they are a member at Wests Ashfield and enjoy the pokies on a Saturday afternoon have more say then a ticketed club member of the Wests Tigers.
 
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434252) said:
@mike said in [CEO](/post/1434249) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434235) said:
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434230) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Educate me then on how one can become a member of Wests Tigers and vote for board appointments.

You can’t directly. The Wests Tigers board is appointed by its shareholders, effectively Wests Ashfield and BRLFC.

I know mate - and that's the point. There is no direct link between fans/sponsors and the board.

Theoretically, someone who's only association with Wests Tigers is the fact that they are a member at Wests Ashfield and enjoy the pokies on a Saturday afternoon have more say then a ticketed club member of the Wests Tigers.

We’re a bingo club
 
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434252) said:
@mike said in [CEO](/post/1434249) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434235) said:
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434230) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Educate me then on how one can become a member of Wests Tigers and vote for board appointments.

You can’t directly. The Wests Tigers board is appointed by its shareholders, effectively Wests Ashfield and BRLFC.

I know mate - and that's the point. There is no direct link between fans/sponsors and the board.

Theoretically, someone who's only association with Wests Tigers is the fact that they are a member at Wests Ashfield and enjoy the pokies on a Saturday afternoon have more say then a ticketed club member of the Wests Tigers.

Yep and I can’t see that changing anytime soon. I’ve ranted about this before but the reality is your membership of the Wests Tigers is just a fan membership, nothing more.

Unless you can overthrow the board of Wests Ashfield, which seems nigh impossible, that’s not going to change.
 
@geo said in [CEO](/post/1434201) said:
@needaname said in [CEO](/post/1434178) said:
Not to detract from the current topic.

There was recent thread regarding the board. I was curious as I can only find the following info on our official website as to the make up does anyone know how the tenure of each board member?

https://www.weststigers.com.au/about/board/

The board is not an elected board..they are nominated by the JV partners..

Can you explain this further?
 
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434240) said:
@jadtiger said in [CEO](/post/1434237) said:
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434230) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.
 
@tiger_fanatic3 said in [CEO](/post/1434080) said:
Wish I had a cool job like the bloke himself

![WuUBLfUJ_400x400.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1627869440005-wuublfuj_400x400.jpg)

Nice hair cut?
 
@needaname said in [CEO](/post/1434272) said:
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434240) said:
@jadtiger said in [CEO](/post/1434237) said:
@papacito said in [CEO](/post/1434230) said:
@aubanon said in [CEO](/post/1434207) said:
I know of a sponsor who wrote Pascoe an email some two-three months ago. The email discussed amongst other things, the performance of the team and make up of the board.

There were two main points raised in particular

1) Firstly, the sponsor expressed their desire for it to be communicated to the board that the current board arrangement appeared to lack direct accountability to stakeholders. There was no direct link between sponsors/fans and the board - no means of voting right membership in Wests Tigers.

2) The 2nd point raised by the sponsor was the fact that our board didn't have footy experience and pointed to Penrith and the Roosters as an example (Greg Alexander is a board member for Penrith & Luke Ricketson is a board member for the Roosters).

The sponsor was not even given the courtesy of an acknowledgement let alone a reply.

Fair to say, the sponsor wont be back in 2022.

While I'm sure this sponsor had their heart in the right place, they don't seem to know anything about how our board is composed.

Failures who cant be removed and even more failures who cant be removed.I can understand why the sponsor is less than impressed

You can always join one of the clubs that own Wests Tigers and vote accordingly.

You can even put your money where your mouth is and go for a spot on the board too.

Why should we have a board made up of leagues club members from our two joint ventures.

Gee talk about reducing the election options.

What do you propose?

We're no different to any other NRL club that's backed by a leagues club.
 

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