supercoach
Well-known member
@fibrodreaming said:
Chris Lawrence
- Thread starter 1969
- Start date
bonstonker
New member
when is the last time he simply had to beat a player one on one.
most touches that he gets are dummy half runs or one out hit ups with compressed defenses.
show me the last 10 times he was one on one.
probably have to go through a whole season of footage.
what isn't the same is our lead up to him getting the ball.
the good thing is that he knows the talent outside him and does whatever he can to get it to koro.
most touches that he gets are dummy half runs or one out hit ups with compressed defenses.
show me the last 10 times he was one on one.
probably have to go through a whole season of footage.
what isn't the same is our lead up to him getting the ball.
the good thing is that he knows the talent outside him and does whatever he can to get it to koro.
@bonstonker said:
yeah this is exactly the reason I'm not willing to write him off yet… can't remember the last time he was put in a good position and left me thinking 'he could have made more of that chance'
Also he's great at setting his winger up which = tries tries tries for Koro
stevetiger
New member
I don't think he has looked that bad at all. I think he is still a gun and our best centre and he will prove it.
G
Guest
Guest
@Winnipeg said:
Good points raised. The lat time he saw some nice clean ball was in that cracker of a game against the Dragons in 2011 where he crossed the line early and was held up, and then saw some space in the second half. The Tigers backline last year simply didn't fire.
AmericanHistoryX
Well-known member
as Fibro alludes to Lawrence gets the ball in traffic. Cant Lawrence find a hole anymore or is he told to run straight & hard?
Tommy Magpie
Active member
He is trying hard but is only a shadow of his former self. Would love to think otherwise, but he has had time to recover from his injuries, and there has been no improvement. He plays busted. Has gone from one of the top 3-4 centres in the game to a below-average first grader. I would love Rowdy to prove everyone wrong, and I will be the first to stand and applaud him, but I cant see it happening.
I maintain he's a player who lacks confidence. Initially, like any serious injury it would have played on his mind.
Now I think it's more to do with the lack of cohesion and combinations with those around him. The longer potter can keep lawrence and koroibete together, with Anasta and miller inside of them giving them good quality ball and service and finding space, lawrence will go a long way to recapturing the form we all want him to.
Now I think it's more to do with the lack of cohesion and combinations with those around him. The longer potter can keep lawrence and koroibete together, with Anasta and miller inside of them giving them good quality ball and service and finding space, lawrence will go a long way to recapturing the form we all want him to.
Shooshmeister
New member
Benji needs to get Lawrence early ball, not fluff around with it and then pass when the defense is up on him. WHen Hodges gets the ball with room and 1 on 1, he makes it happen and lawrence can too if given enough room. Benji crabs across field and leaves no room to work. Something Potter needs to look at IMO.
tig_prmz
Well-known member
i really think people are focussing too much on his attack.. the whole team looks pedestrian in attack atm.
his defense is letting him down.
his defense is letting him down.
happy_tiger
Well-known member
Chris has one major issue in attack The holes he initially ran through close before he gets there
Another issue is the options he takes with the ball in hand .An example as painful as this is the Knights game right on half time the Knights turn the ball over and Lawrence has open ground he has two defenders on his outside ,no support on his inside So personally in that instance my initial thought would be commit to the outside defenders drop a ball inside to Koroibete Which creates 2 options koroibete can then either use his pace inside and make a heap of metres which then would of also given time for the support players to try and link with Koroibete (he may not of needed it , he could of gone 50 metres with probably just the fullback to beat one on one ) or come to the inside at speed straighten and link with the support play I'm not claiming to be a footy genius but as soon as that unfolded thats what I screamed Why didn't Rowdy see that Instead he comes back inside we have no support within 15 metres and he gets nailed
It may not of won us the game , but if we score its 24-10 ktc and we get a huge positive going into half time
In defence he is getting made to look foolish far too often .Every time he rushes out of the line I panic , because if he doesn't make a dominant one on one tackle any quality team will score next play
2014 if he is still at the club he probably will be a back rower
Another issue is the options he takes with the ball in hand .An example as painful as this is the Knights game right on half time the Knights turn the ball over and Lawrence has open ground he has two defenders on his outside ,no support on his inside So personally in that instance my initial thought would be commit to the outside defenders drop a ball inside to Koroibete Which creates 2 options koroibete can then either use his pace inside and make a heap of metres which then would of also given time for the support players to try and link with Koroibete (he may not of needed it , he could of gone 50 metres with probably just the fullback to beat one on one ) or come to the inside at speed straighten and link with the support play I'm not claiming to be a footy genius but as soon as that unfolded thats what I screamed Why didn't Rowdy see that Instead he comes back inside we have no support within 15 metres and he gets nailed
It may not of won us the game , but if we score its 24-10 ktc and we get a huge positive going into half time
In defence he is getting made to look foolish far too often .Every time he rushes out of the line I panic , because if he doesn't make a dominant one on one tackle any quality team will score next play
2014 if he is still at the club he probably will be a back rower
Fade_To_Black
New member
@AmericanHistoryX said:
Ever since he debuted he has always run straight and hard. Is good to see no-one on here has slipped into him too much over his lack of form- he doesn't deserve that. But there is no hiding the fact that he has been struggling for quite a while dating back to last season, surely he should be mentally over his hip injury from 18 months or so ago? If not, will he ever be?
I reckon a stint in State Cup would do his confidence the world of good (apart from getting dropped back there in the first place). Problem is we don't really have much to replace him with…maybe Sirro once he gets some match fitness back?
@fibrodreaming said:
Agreed. Great post.
From what ive seen of him this year he has been given the ball flat footed and close to the defensive line, which is not where he is dangerous.
I agree his defence has been lacking in recent, which is disappointing as he has been such a defensive centre in the past.
Give him a few more injury few games to see If he can come back to being the Lawrence we know.
jirskyr
Well-known member
@Newtown said:
I think that was Timmy Moltzen? The play where he beat Kingston on the outside, but hit the deck after stepping inside and being tackled by the cover?
bonstonker
New member
@jirskyr said:
correct,lawrence was the decoy that grew in the centre and the winger had to come in on moltzen who passed and left koro in the clear.
\
\
what i would like to know is what people expect lawrence to do in attack.
in the first 2 games he has not received the ball from a backline movement in the opponents half.
seriously people think about that.
he has touched the ball once in the opponents 10 that was an inside run from farh at dummy half.
the next closest touch to the opposition line was 48 out from the opponents line and he threw a poor low pass to koro.
out of his 15 touches 10 have been inside his own 30,either from dummy half or a one out hitup.
to his credit he has averaged 9 yards per hitup inside his 30 and drawn 2 penalties.
this was the same last year.
what people also need to remember is that benji was predominately a left side playmaker until lui left.
since then benji has done most of his attacking on the right side.blair was horrible on the left edge last year with 90% of attacking raids ending in his hands.the same happened when he was switched.
really don't know what game some are watching,or what centres are in this position and lighting it up.
tigerbenji
Well-known member
Bonstonker you summed it up perfectly.
