Club Bosses Discuss Increase As Players Say Cap Doesn't Fit

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SMH 4:32PM Wednesday Nov 28
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NRL chief executives are set to discuss calls for a bigger salary cap and club grant next season at a meeting in Sydney on Wednesday in a move that may help to resolve the futures of Israel Folau and Brett Stewart.

Clubs were allocated $7 million in funding for the 2013 season, with $5 million to cover the salary cap and the rest to help meet costs associated with reaching targets announced in the game's strategic plan.

However, the Rugby League Players' Association has not agreed to the $5 million salary cap and is still negotiating a collective bargaining agreement with the NRL and clubs.

Fairfax has been told the association wants a salary cap of $6.5 million to be spread amongst the top 30 players at each club rather than the 25 currently included.

The association argues that most clubs use more than 25 players at NRL level each season so the cap should be expanded.

Any increase in the salary cap will eat further into the annual grant that clubs receive but Fairfax has been told there is a feeling among the clubs they will not be able to reach an equitable agreement with the association by sticking to a $5 million ceiling on player payments next season.

If the amount of the rise is big enough, it may help Manly to register Stewart's contract and Parramatta to sign Folau without the clubs having to offload players - but there are other motivations behind the push.

Until the parties agree on the size of next season's salary cap, they cannot set the amount for following years. As a result, both clubs and player agents say they are hamstrung in negotiations for 2014, with stars such as Johnathan Thurston, Robbie Farah and Mitchell Pearce free to talk to rival clubs but unsure how much the salary cap will be.

''It's just all guesswork at the moment,'' one agent said. ''No one really knows how much the salary cap is going to be. [NRL salary cap auditor] Ian Schubert told all the accredited agents at a meeting last week that the clubs were working on a salary cap of $5 million for next season but some of them are probably banking that it will be more.''

Schubert has refused to register the contract Stewart signed with Manly in August as he believes that would put the Sea Eagles $300,000 over the salary cap. There is speculation the club is looking to release Vic Mauro and David Williams or George Rose.

The Eels have also been told they would be $300,000 over the salary cap if they signed Folau, who asked for a release from the remaining two years of his AFL contract with Greater Western Sydney, worth $1.5 million a season, to return to the NRL. It is understood that Parramatta have $110,000 left to spend under the salary cap and are helping to negotiate several third-party deals for Folau but Schubert has valued him at $400,000.

Players' association chief executive David Garnsey said it was premature for Manly and Parramatta to be forced to release players when the salary cap had not been formally agreed upon.

''Perhaps what can be said is that they cannot currently be fit within the provisional 'cap' that the NRL clubs agreed between themselves earlier this year for consistency of contracting purposes until the actual salary cap was agreed,'' Garnsey said.

South Sydney forward Sam Burgess highlighted the frustration of players when he tweeted: ''Not only is there a salary cap but now players contracts can only be registered if it's deemed to be the correct amount. Small or big. Come on.''
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Standoff over salary cap stonewalling may see All Stars boycott
by: Christian Nicolussi and Dean Ritchie From: The Daily Telegraph November 29, 2012
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THE NRL's biggest names will consider boycotting the All Stars game as frustration increases over delays in finalising rugby league's new salary cap.

The sensational threat is one proposal being discussed by members of the Rugby League Players Association, who will meet with the ARLC tomorrow.

Ditching press conferences and failing to honour TV commitments have also been mentioned should the ARLC not deliver suitable figures.

The game's salary cap for next season was discussed during a seven-hour club chief executives conference at Rugby League Central yesterday but, again, no decision was reached.

An increase in the 2013 cap would instantly allow Israel Folau back into rugby league.

Bulldogs CEO Todd Greenberg will represent the clubs at tomorrow's meeting, while Robbie Farah, Paul Gallen, Mick Crocker, Clint Newton and Tim Mannah are all expected to attend on behalf of the RLPA.

The RLPA wants the cap increased from $5 million to $6.5 million for next season before being bumped up to $8.5 million by 2017, the same year the league's new $1 billion TV rights deal expires.

A senior player last night said an All Stars boycott was one idea being touted, but it was a drastic option that hopefully wouldn't eventuate.

"It's frustrating things have taken so long, and the players association wants to do whatever we can to achieve what we think is reasonable for us," the player said. "Players don't know where they stand and the clubs can't get ready for 2014 because they don't know who they can sign and who they can let go."

No decision on the 2013 salary cap was reached yesterday, with chief executives wanting to extract further information from tomorrow's meeting.

"We are still in negotiations over a range of issues, including the salary cap from 2013 to 2017," NRL interim CEO Shane Mattiske said.

Representative stars, including Johnathan Thurston, Farah and Jarryd Hayne, are waiting to find out what the 2014 cap will be before they commit to new deals.

New ARLC CEO David Smith will start work in February, and could immediately be faced with the headache of making sure the NRL's pre-season showpiece event proceeds.

Asked about the potential boycott, RLPA CEO David Garnsey said: "That hasn't come from me. I am focused on the negotiations.

"We're expecting something to be put to us on Friday.

"But certainly it's something we'll look at and respond to."
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The new CEO has a banking background, and we all know big banks are renowned for sharing their big profits :angry:

Will be interesting to see how Smith handles this. It will definitely be a big issue in the coming year considering the salary cap was a major talking point of the new TV rights.
 
I understand that the ARLC has had to wait until hiring a new CEO , but you would of thought that they would have had a plan ready to go in regards to salary cap , especially seeing that the new CEO has little or no understanding of how the salary cap works and the complications in regards to third party deals etc

The clubs should of been informed of the new salary cap within a month of the 2012 season ending , clubs need to make plans for their futures and as usual the heads of the game have absolutely no understanding of the needs of the clubs

I hope the players threaten to stand down , stick the willies up the authorities , maybe they will be shaken into action

Welcome to the NRL David Smith :smiley: Maybe thats the problem ,Smith's salary might eat up all the extra money that was being given to the clubs ?? Nothing would surprise me
 
I don't like the idea of "valueing players" If a player agrees to be on the cheap, then so be it -

If the "valuing" players idea is utilized selectively for players considered over budget, to keep things fair it should work both ways for when a team pays overs for a talent - e.g - Penrith paying 350K per year for Travis Burns, when on an open market he probably wouldn't command such a fee - Schubert should then given the Panthers a Salary cap concession particularly if he comes up "under value"

I remember a couple of years ago one of the walker boys played for what was effectively free to remain with the Roosters (i think it was them) to show them some loyalty for reviving his career.

Nowadays shows of loyalty like that can't be done.

It just seems like unnecessary red tape.
 
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