Coach Potter

@AmericanHistoryX said:
@happy tiger said:
Watching the game tonight ,maybe we should have got Kevvie Walters

no way.
have faith in Potter
just buy big forwards, Benji wont have to run as much.
Isnt it simple.
i mean george rose right now could be playing first grade elsewhere.

Sorry AHX it was tongue in cheek to a degree , but watching the Storm backline and how fluid it is and knowing that Kevvie runs the attack it makes you dream a little (well a lot actually)

On the subject ,do you think the Storm have fewer issues with the obstruction rule because they are so much quicker with their ball movement and their players are moving much faster ??

Would explain the Tigers problems with the obstruction rule to a degree
 
Should not have re-signed sheens at end of 2011 and we should have held onto folkes or daniel anderson back then.

Potter still early days but still a hard pill to swallow when we are also paying for Sheens.

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@MacDougall said:
@LaT said:
@MacDougall said:
Probably not by then. Nofoaluma is behind Naiyaravaro in coaches eyes anyway.

Did Potter say something on that?

Well apparently he sees NSW cup as higher than NYC and Naiyaravaro is there and Nofo is in NYC so I put 2 and 2 together.

I read something along these lines during the week, can't remember Potter's exact words but he referred to 'problems' promoting U20's where boys then have to play against men and how the leap isn't as big for those promoted from state cup. At least that's my interpretation of what Potter said.
 
@willow said:
@AmericanHistoryX said:
wasnt Pettybourne made to look small last night?
More or less, he bounced off their forwards.

It's off topic but Pettybourne is not a big man.

he isn't and he may not bend the line too much but he has a go in defence, needs more game time imo.
 
at the moment on what i have seen hes worse than tim sheens we have had twi off our worst performances in four games takes me back tothe terry lamb days hope im wrong but at the moment im yet to be convinced northern eagles and newcastle ganes were absolutely terrible
 
@LaT said:
@MacDougall said:
Probably not by then. Nofoaluma is behind Naiyaravaro in coaches eyes anyway.

Did Potter say something on that?

Pretty sure Potter was quoted in Thursdays telegraph saying he won't be picking guys out of u/20's.
I was one of Potters biggest fans going into the season but its slowly fading. Nofoaluma has been in fantastic form and being on the wing wouldn't be as big a step up as being in the forwards. And hasn't Buchanan gone straight to firsts from u/20's, in the toughest position to step up from?
This combined with bringing on Iosefa Thursday night has me worried.
 
an over reaction.

after the parra game we all had the belief we'd make a play in the 8…

it was only 14-0 with 15 to go...
 
@neville said:
@LaT said:
@MacDougall said:
Probably not by then. Nofoaluma is behind Naiyaravaro in coaches eyes anyway.

Did Potter say something on that?

Pretty sure Potter was quoted in Thursdays telegraph saying he won't be picking guys out of u/20's.
I was one of Potters biggest fans going into the season but its slowly fading. Nofoaluma has been in fantastic form and being on the wing wouldn't be as big a step up as being in the forwards. And hasn't Buchanan gone straight to firsts from u/20's, in the toughest position to step up from?
This combined with bringing on Iosefa Thursday night has me worried.

I understand that, I heard it too. But Naiyaravaro is ineligible for NYC because he is 22\. Nofo being in U20s doesn't mean he is behind Big T.
 
We are the same side lacking any form of consistency.

The difference is other sides have gotten a lot better over the off season.

There are 6 really strong contenders for this years title, three maybes and the group that we are in, the no chance in hell group.

I like the direction the new coach has moved us but we do not have the cattle to make it work especially in light of our forwards injuries and the tragic loss of Mosese.

I will judge Potter on 2014 and beyond when he has some troops and staff of his own choosing
 
Oh and FTR the re-shuffle happened when Moltzen came off and up the tunnel with a hand complaint
 
Having a look how Penrith are going with their purchases this year I am not sure Mick Potter is going that bad with the team he inherited , I think we need to cut him some slack, I was resigned to having an average year anyway as he is a rookie coach, so I dont know why so many are up tight this early in the season. Considering we are still hamstrung with Tim Sheens wages is there a better alternative? :crazy
 
We are in the top 8 still with only 2games to play in round 4- if we make the finals I'm happy this year so seems we are on track
 
While I agree with the comments that our attack was poor and our defence is questionable, I think there is something Potter can fix more easily.
If you go through the video from the first half against Manly, you will find the following results from Benji’s kicking:-

1. Grubbers on zero tackle, for which the right-hand side attack was
lined out for running the ball, so the kick just gave the ball away.
2. Grubbers on the third, giving the ball to Foran 5 metres out.
3. Marshall’s kick at goal fails.
4. Bomb from 32 metres out caught by Reddy 15 metres out, when it should land on the goal-line.
5. Bombs from 48 metres out. No Tigers within 16 metres when
Stewart catches the ball 2 metres out.
6. Marshall grubbers and forces drop-out
7. Bombs from 15 metres out, but Tigers slow to ball and Manly
catches 1 metre out.
8. Kicks long from 55 metres and the ball stops in the in-goal.
9. Takes penalty kick but only gains 17 metres.
10. Bombs from 22 metres out, caught by Reddy 10 metres out.
11. Penalty kick 55 metres from Manly line fails to find touch.

Rocks and diamonds.

Farrah’s kicking was better than Benji’s and on some occasions it appeared that the Tiger’s players did not know Benji was going to kick, because they were slow to react.
Work on kicking with the kickers may get improvements more quickly.
 
@LaT said:
@neville said:
@LaT said:
@MacDougall said:
Probably not by then. Nofoaluma is behind Naiyaravaro in coaches eyes anyway.

Did Potter say something on that?

Pretty sure Potter was quoted in Thursdays telegraph saying he won't be picking guys out of u/20's.
I was one of Potters biggest fans going into the season but its slowly fading. Nofoaluma has been in fantastic form and being on the wing wouldn't be as big a step up as being in the forwards. And hasn't Buchanan gone straight to firsts from u/20's, in the toughest position to step up from?
This combined with bringing on Iosefa Thursday night has me worried.

I understand that, I heard it too. But Naiyaravaro is ineligible for NYC because he is 22\. Nofo being in U20s doesn't mean he is behind Big T.

Lol yes but going by what he is saying, if Nofo was in the mix he'd be playing HIM in NSW cup.
 
Still reckon Anasta puts up one the best swirling bomb in the comp

I thought that was one of the reasons we bought him ,obviously not

And the other point that Mighty Maggy brought up the zero tackle play v Manly ,why kick it to your slow wing and or why not make it look like a run play and Moltzen chasing hard and being on the fly and flat ??

I reckon this was something Marshall called himself ,not Potter , and I hope this gets added to Benji's errors for the season
 
still reckon Happy that if we had big forwards we wouldnt be talking about Potter.
Whats wrong with our culture? Big damn forwards - then top 4.
 
@MightyMaggy said:
While I agree with the comments that our attack was poor and our defence is questionable, I think there is something Potter can fix more easily.
If you go through the video from the first half against Manly, you will find the following results from Benji’s kicking:-

1. Grubbers on zero tackle, for which the right-hand side attack was
lined out for running the ball, so the kick just gave the ball away.
2. Grubbers on the third, giving the ball to Foran 5 metres out.
3. Marshall’s kick at goal fails.
4. Bomb from 32 metres out caught by Reddy 15 metres out, when it should land on the goal-line.
5. Bombs from 48 metres out. No Tigers within 16 metres when
Stewart catches the ball 2 metres out.
6. Marshall grubbers and forces drop-out
7. Bombs from 15 metres out, but Tigers slow to ball and Manly
catches 1 metre out.
8. Kicks long from 55 metres and the ball stops in the in-goal.
9. Takes penalty kick but only gains 17 metres.
10. Bombs from 22 metres out, caught by Reddy 10 metres out.
11. Penalty kick 55 metres from Manly line fails to find touch.

Rocks and diamonds.

Thank you MM for putting down the actual data that I have had gut feeling about for some time.

Bottom line is that out of 11 kicks only #6 and 8 get a good result, the rest are not a good result and some are an outright negative.

If the coach is fair dinkum Benji should not be kicking except for the odd occasion where he grubbers for support that know the kick is on. Otherwise leave it to Farah, Miller and Anasta - including goal kicking.

Like any other aspect of individual play, this should be performance based and not based on doing it because your name is Benji.
 
@LaT said:
@neville said:
@LaT said:
@MacDougall said:
Probably not by then. Nofoaluma is behind Naiyaravaro in coaches eyes anyway.

Did Potter say something on that?

Pretty sure Potter was quoted in Thursdays telegraph saying he won't be picking guys out of u/20's.
I was one of Potters biggest fans going into the season but its slowly fading. Nofoaluma has been in fantastic form and being on the wing wouldn't be as big a step up as being in the forwards. And hasn't Buchanan gone straight to firsts from u/20's, in the toughest position to step up from?
This combined with bringing on Iosefa Thursday night has me worried.

I understand that, I heard it too. But Naiyaravaro is ineligible for NYC because he is 22\. Nofo being in U20s doesn't mean he is behind Big T.

Individually I think Nofo is the better player but the competition in NYC & State is still a lot different, coming from NYC to NRL is a big step, atleast States to NRL is a smaller one.
 
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