Coaching ranks

[Tiger_heart]

Can we lok at upcoming / younger coaches and see them as future winners or shapers of the game, in the sense of Gibson, or Warren Ryan?
Consider this crop: Brad Arthur; Dean Young; Trent Barrett; Ben Hornby; Kevin Walters; Jason Demetriou ... most first grade coaches that have failed to make a difference.
Is it due to their style of coaching OR the players they coached? Are clubs so hungry for success that every coach is given an unrealistic time frame (less than 2 years?) to make a mark?

The few good ones that are in the NRL (Cleary, Stuart to name a few, with Bellamy interding to retire) don't look like going anywhere soon.
Ceraldo is going OK at the moment, but at the back of some decent signings.

Seems to me that there are few "innovative" coaches. Which is reflected in the style of play we see week in week out from most teams. Perhaps the media shouldn't be talking up their prospects until they actually deliver.

As for Benji, we'll know about his future in the game and his style of play by the end of this season.

 

[innsaneink]

Arthur had plenty of time....plenty of.good coaches havent won comps.
Hornby and Young have t had a crack yet....lots from that saints era team including Barrett and Nathan Brown, Potter a bit earlier too

 

[Speed2burn]

Ciraldo has the dogs humming atm but he’s gotta take them deep into the finals before he’s “made it” imo

Payten is another young coach, he’s had a few decent years with the cowboys and taken them within a bee’s of a grand final berth

I still have my doubts about benji’s longevity in coaching. He seems like a great guy and the players love him but his tactics at times seem a bit strange. I’ll be very surprised if he’s still coaching us in say, 5 years time

 

[AdelaideTiger]

John Morris as the "defensive coach" needs to take a bow, the turnaround we've seen this year is nothing short of a miracle. I know attitude has played a big part but structurally I can't say I've seen a tigers team be more defensively sound.

 

[Buttface]

Can we lok at upcoming / younger coaches and see them as future winners or shapers of the game, in the sense of Gibson, or Warren Ryan?
Consider this crop: Brad Arthur; Dean Young; Trent Barrett; Ben Hornby; Kevin Walters; Jason Demetriou ... most first grade coaches that have failed to make a difference.
Is it due to their style of coaching OR the players they coached? Are clubs so hungry for success that every coach is given an unrealistic time frame (less than 2 years?) to make a mark?

The few good ones that are in the NRL (Cleary, Stuart to name a few, with Bellamy interding to retire) don't look like going anywhere soon.
Ceraldo is going OK at the moment, but at the back of some decent signings.

Seems to me that there are few "innovative" coaches. Which is reflected in the style of play we see week in week out from most teams. Perhaps the media shouldn't be talking up their prospects until they actually deliver.

As for Benji, we'll know about his future in the game and his style of play by the end of this season.

See @Jolls deep dive if the week thread post on a coaching system.
I’ve been banging on about it for years.