Conference system

@tigerwest said in [Conference system](/post/1349754) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349751) said:
don't mind the conference system they just need to review the semi finals so that they play each other and we can **have two teams from same conference in superbowl type game**

Doesn't that defeat the purpose? I mean what does that say about the other conference?

it allows for the possibility of two Sydney clubs playing in a GF rather than the American system where AFC and NFC can never meet.
The Sydney derbies most weeks will be g9dnfor crowds and atmosphere
 
@jedi_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349755) said:
@tigerwest said in [Conference system](/post/1349754) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349751) said:
don't mind the conference system they just need to review the semi finals so that they play each other and we can **have two teams from same conference in superbowl type game**

Doesn't that defeat the purpose? I mean what does that say about the other conference?

it allows for the possibility of two Sydney clubs playing in a GF rather than the American system where AFC and NFC can never meet.
The Sydney derbies most weeks will be g9dnfor crowds and atmosphere

What if it’s not the Sydney teams that make it? And the GF is already set down for Sydney, the joint will be empty.
 
Stupid stupid idea. Why does PVL insist on changing things for no good reason. We already get great rivalry games every year. This just makes the competition weaker! Viewerships and crowds will be up for the Sydney conference but the other conference it'll be right down
 
Silly idea
Conference only works if you have Super Bowl play off and won’t work if you can’t get two teams from same conference in the decider
If you change it so they can , how is it different to what we have now ( except having in the play offs you won’t have best 8 teams competing )
They rig the draw now so rivals play each other twice as it is
It’s just a manipulation to ensure broncos can safely make semis each year as power that be don’t like broncos getting smashed

I would also add I would not follow the other comference as won’t impact me , whereas now all games impact me
 
If they want to look at a conference system why not play every one once at the end of the 15th or 17th round depending the number of teams in the competition the comp splits into two with the top 8 or 9 teams go into a new competition to play for the premiership to make sure everyone is striving for the cut each player is paid a bonus of $20k not part of the salary cap the new comp play each other once meaning they have played twice during the season the final 5 teams play the semi final series.
The remaining sides say team 9 down play each other in a separate comp with a semi final series comprising 5 teams to play for a cup.
This set up will give a comp of 24 weeks of competition games 4 weeks semi final series
28 game season they could then include 3 stand alone weeks for SOO to played with a Challenge cup included for the pacific Island to compete in with the winner playing Australia after the GF.
Would take 32 weeks to complete and be accommodate by starting the comp late FEB or early MAR or extending the comp past the fist Sunday in OCTOBER like they did this year the world didn't end because GF wasn't played on this weekend last season and if GF extended by a week or two would give the NRL more flexibility.
 
Each team plays each other once
Then divide into 2 conferences 1/3/5 and 2/4/6 etc
Then each team plays its conference team once
Top 3 from each conference go into finals
Teams 4/5 from each conference playoff to make finals
Finals series

Dunno it’s early and I haven’t had a coffee yet
 
@elderslie_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349769) said:
If they want to look at a conference system why not play every one once at the end of the 15th or 17th round depending the number of teams in the competition the comp splits into two with the top 8 or 9 teams go into a new competition to play for the premiership to make sure everyone is striving for the cut each player is paid a bonus of $20k not part of the salary cap the new comp play each other once meaning they have played twice during the season the final 5 teams play the semi final series.
The remaining sides say team 9 down play each other in a separate comp with a semi final series comprising 5 teams to play for a cup.
This set up will give a comp of 24 weeks of competition games 4 weeks semi final series
28 game season they could then include 3 stand alone weeks for SOO to played with a Challenge cup included for the pacific Island to compete in with the winner playing Australia after the GF.
Would take 32 weeks to complete and be accommodate by starting the comp late FEB or early MAR or extending the comp past the fist Sunday in OCTOBER like they did this year the world didn't end because GF wasn't played on this weekend last season and if GF extended by a week or two would give the NRL more flexibility.

Ha brilliant minds. If it happens we should get a commission
 
@tigerwest said in [Conference system](/post/1349759) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349755) said:
@tigerwest said in [Conference system](/post/1349754) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349751) said:
don't mind the conference system they just need to review the semi finals so that they play each other and we can **have two teams from same conference in superbowl type game**

Doesn't that defeat the purpose? I mean what does that say about the other conference?

it allows for the possibility of two Sydney clubs playing in a GF rather than the American system where AFC and NFC can never meet.
The Sydney derbies most weeks will be g9dnfor crowds and atmosphere

What if it’s not the Sydney teams that make it? And the GF is already set down for Sydney, the joint will be empty.

What's the difference to now? Cowboys Broncos gf wasn't empty.
 
It's all about $$ not quality of games.

NRL doesn't have new fans and junior participation seems to be decreasing (don't have data on it, just a hunch). The same set of fans that we have now are more likely to watch 10% more NRL and click on 10% more articles meaning more teams= more $$$

They will just keep giving us new numbers about "ball in play minutes", "play the ball speed" , more points being scored etc to justify the quality of football has increased.
 
@twentyforty said in [Conference system](/post/1349747) said:
@tiger_bond said in [Conference system](/post/1349744) said:
Just a question? Who will be considered minor premiers?

There would be a few traditional markers missing eg. there could never be a Broncos vs Cowboys GF. The huge advantage in this conference system Imo sets up the game for global expansion, but would put an end to the traditional international games like tests, world cups. Imagine globally 8 countries , all with a team in the playoffs?

I doubt rugby league will ever be a global game. The very thought of getting rid of tests, world cups etc makes me shudder.
At worst, it could end up like that boring game, which is only available on pay tv and going the way of the dinosaurs.. Just like cricket they killed the local comps with their greed and people lose interest because it's sport is tribal - if you have no tribe you have no interest.
 
@mikey said in [Conference system](/post/1349784) said:
@twentyforty said in [Conference system](/post/1349747) said:
@tiger_bond said in [Conference system](/post/1349744) said:
Just a question? Who will be considered minor premiers?

There would be a few traditional markers missing eg. there could never be a Broncos vs Cowboys GF. The huge advantage in this conference system Imo sets up the game for global expansion, but would put an end to the traditional international games like tests, world cups. Imagine globally 8 countries , all with a team in the playoffs?

I doubt rugby league will ever be a global game. The very thought of getting rid of tests, world cups etc makes me shudder.
At worst, it could end up like that boring game, which is only available on pay tv and going the way of the dinosaurs.. Just like cricket they killed the local comps with their greed and people lose interest because it's sport is tribal - if you have no tribe you have no interest.

I agree that Rugby League will never be a global game, however cricket was always going that way. The world has outgrown test matches.
 
@rugba said in [Conference system](/post/1349764) said:
Silly idea
Conference only works if you have Super Bowl play off and won’t work if you can’t get two teams from same conference in the decider
If you change it so they can , how is it different to what we have now ( except having in the play offs you won’t have best 8 teams competing )
They rig the draw now so rivals play each other twice as it is
It’s just a manipulation to ensure broncos can safely make semis each year as power that be don’t like broncos getting smashed

I would also add I would not follow the other comference as won’t impact me , whereas now all games impact me


In some ways it reminds me of Murdochs "Stupor league".I can honestly say i did not watch a single game of it and did not have the slightest interest in it.Brisbane was the cancer which started that and it wouldnt suprise me if they are the ones pushing it now because they suck massively and need some system to become relevant.Being one of the 4 top out of towners would do it as they could play semis again.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Conference system](/post/1349787) said:
@mikey said in [Conference system](/post/1349784) said:
@twentyforty said in [Conference system](/post/1349747) said:
@tiger_bond said in [Conference system](/post/1349744) said:
Just a question? Who will be considered minor premiers?

There would be a few traditional markers missing eg. there could never be a Broncos vs Cowboys GF. The huge advantage in this conference system Imo sets up the game for global expansion, but would put an end to the traditional international games like tests, world cups. Imagine globally 8 countries , all with a team in the playoffs?

I doubt rugby league will ever be a global game. The very thought of getting rid of tests, world cups etc makes me shudder.
At worst, it could end up like that boring game, which is only available on pay tv and going the way of the dinosaurs.. Just like cricket they killed the local comps with their greed and people lose interest because it's sport is tribal - if you have no tribe you have no interest.

I agree that Rugby League will never be a global game, however cricket was always going that way. The world has outgrown test matches.

Cricket may have been going that way in some countries but many countries and fans from all countries still like test matches rather than the creaming soda sugar fix of Big Bash and one day matches.
I was; however, more referring to the death of local comps. I like test matches because they are on ocassionally; if it was NSW, QLD or Australia vs X every week I wouldn't enjoy it as I don't as strongly identify with them - I identify with the basket case of a club we have - tearing myself away from Balmain to WTs was an extremely difficult thing for me to do.
 
@gallagher said in [Conference system](/post/1349780) said:
@tigerwest said in [Conference system](/post/1349759) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349755) said:
@tigerwest said in [Conference system](/post/1349754) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349751) said:
don't mind the conference system they just need to review the semi finals so that they play each other and we can **have two teams from same conference in superbowl type game**

Doesn't that defeat the purpose? I mean what does that say about the other conference?

it allows for the possibility of two Sydney clubs playing in a GF rather than the American system where AFC and NFC can never meet.
The Sydney derbies most weeks will be g9dnfor crowds and atmosphere

What if it’s not the Sydney teams that make it? And the GF is already set down for Sydney, the joint will be empty.

What's the difference to now? Cowboys Broncos gf wasn't empty.

It's more the point that apparently depending how the conferences are set up no two Sydney teams will ever play each other in a GF
Also I think you'll find that the GF will be put out to tender with the highest bidder getting the game.These day every Capital city have grounds that could host the game.
 
@elderslie_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349796) said:
@gallagher said in [Conference system](/post/1349780) said:
@tigerwest said in [Conference system](/post/1349759) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349755) said:
@tigerwest said in [Conference system](/post/1349754) said:
@jedi_tiger said in [Conference system](/post/1349751) said:
don't mind the conference system they just need to review the semi finals so that they play each other and we can **have two teams from same conference in superbowl type game**

Doesn't that defeat the purpose? I mean what does that say about the other conference?

it allows for the possibility of two Sydney clubs playing in a GF rather than the American system where AFC and NFC can never meet.
The Sydney derbies most weeks will be g9dnfor crowds and atmosphere

What if it’s not the Sydney teams that make it? And the GF is already set down for Sydney, the joint will be empty.

What's the difference to now? Cowboys Broncos gf wasn't empty.

It's more the point that apparently depending how the conferences are set up no two Sydney teams will ever play each other in a GF
Also I think you'll find that the GF will be put out to tender with the highest bidder getting the game.These day every Capital city have grounds that could host the game.

I understand all that. I don't see that being Tigerwests point.
 
@tig_prmz said in [Conference system](/post/1349781) said:
It's all about $$ not quality of games.

NRL doesn't have new fans and junior participation seems to be decreasing (don't have data on it, just a hunch). The same set of fans that we have now are more likely to watch 10% more NRL and click on 10% more articles meaning more teams= more $$$

They will just keep giving us new numbers about "ball in play minutes", "play the ball speed" , more points being scored etc to justify the quality of football has increased.

Exactly the whole idea is Sydney clubs trying to make money, with no thought about the out of Sydney teams who will constantly have to travel and their crowd numbers will be down and no thought to quality of the game

Why would I want to see my team only play 8 other teams? Boring. Conferences will only work if you've got like 30 teams or have a really short season like the NFL.
 
@mikey said in [Conference system](/post/1349784) said:
@twentyforty said in [Conference system](/post/1349747) said:
@tiger_bond said in [Conference system](/post/1349744) said:
Just a question? Who will be considered minor premiers?

There would be a few traditional markers missing eg. there could never be a Broncos vs Cowboys GF. The huge advantage in this conference system Imo sets up the game for global expansion, but would put an end to the traditional international games like tests, world cups. Imagine globally 8 countries , all with a team in the playoffs?

I doubt rugby league will ever be a global game. The very thought of getting rid of tests, world cups etc makes me shudder.
At worst, it could end up like that boring game, which is only available on pay tv and going the way of the dinosaurs.. Just like cricket they killed the local comps with their greed and people lose interest because it's sport is tribal - if you have no tribe you have no interest.


The whole idea of the conference segmenting is to promote tribalism SoO style. There’s no reason why that would not grow beyond borders. A fan’s second team would exist in their conference .
 
@twentyforty said in [Conference system](/post/1349802) said:
@mikey said in [Conference system](/post/1349784) said:
@twentyforty said in [Conference system](/post/1349747) said:
@tiger_bond said in [Conference system](/post/1349744) said:
Just a question? Who will be considered minor premiers?

There would be a few traditional markers missing eg. there could never be a Broncos vs Cowboys GF. The huge advantage in this conference system Imo sets up the game for global expansion, but would put an end to the traditional international games like tests, world cups. Imagine globally 8 countries , all with a team in the playoffs?

I doubt rugby league will ever be a global game. The very thought of getting rid of tests, world cups etc makes me shudder.
At worst, it could end up like that boring game, which is only available on pay tv and going the way of the dinosaurs.. Just like cricket they killed the local comps with their greed and people lose interest because it's sport is tribal - if you have no tribe you have no interest.


The whole idea of the conference segmenting is to promote tribalism SoO style. There’s no reason why that would not grow beyond borders. A fan’s second team would exist in their conference .

SOO of original tribalism is popular because it's three times a year - if it was every week it would soon lose its lustre. Look at Super 15 and they way that has failed miserably.
As for a second team - I don't really know what that is as they all have sliding scale of dislike in my world.
 

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