Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

[Snake]

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

 

[Newtown]

Why can't Wests Tigers' Pascoe carry on like st. Helens when it comes to Matterson?

St Helens tell Bulldogs hands off, English club eyes ‘top quality’ NRL signing
John Dean and George Clarke
FOX SPORTSOCTOBER 25, 20195:49AM

SAINTS MOVE TO SHUT DOWN PROP TALK

St Helens have rubbished reports they could let star props Luke Thompson and Alex Walmsley leave to join Canterbury before their contracts end.

A recent Daily Telegraph report said Bulldogs chief executive Andrew Hill had travelled to England to have a meeting with the duo who starred in the Red V’s Super League grand final win over Salford. Walmsley had an opportunity to come to the NRL before he signed a long-term deal with the club, while Thompson has also been attracting attention from South Sydney in recent months.

St Helens CEO Mike Rush said the pair were going nowhere.“There is nothing in it,” Rush told UK publication League Weekly. “I don’t know where the Walmsley story has come from because he’s contracted for another three years, and Thommo is contracted to the end of next year.”

 

[Fletch]

Matterson’s official signing announcement came on 11 Sept 2018. Rumblings of Ivan Cleary being linked with a return to Penrith was reported in the media weeks before hand on 6 August 2018. Surely Matterson hadn’t signed with the Tigers before 6 August so he and his Manager Orr would have been well aware that Ivan may not be the Tigers coach. Claims by Matterson that this was not what he signed up for sounds like a hollow excuse to me, whenever it was that he did sign, he and his manager would have known of the Cleary situation, everyone did, it was one of the biggest stories of 2018.

 

[beachtiger]

With players all having highlight reels these days that get sent around could you imagine a perspective club Matterson was in talks with looking at his.

The whole thing would be him in Tigers colours playing some really good footy.

Would love to see a club then turn around and asking Matterson to please explain again what was the problem at the club, looks like your game went to another level with them but you weren’t happy??

 

[NT_Tiger]

@beachtiger I agree but it wouldn't happen. It would be; nice highlights reel Ryan, sign here.

 

[rustycage]

Matterson’s official signing announcement came on 11 Sept 2018. Rumblings of Ivan Cleary being linked with a return to Penrith was reported in the media weeks before hand on 6 August 2018. Surely Matterson hadn’t signed with the Tigers before 6 August so he and his Manager Orr would have been well aware that Ivan may not be the Tigers coach. Claims by Matterson that this was not what he signed up for sounds like a hollow excuse to me, whenever it was that he did sign, he and his manager would have known of the Cleary situation, everyone did, it was one of the biggest stories of 2018.

Thats a really good point. I hadn't thought about cross referencing time lines. I guess I took it for granted that he was telling it how it was. Stupid me lol.

 

[NT_Tiger]

@rustycage There's always the possibility that the bus driver spun Matterson the same line he spun for everybody else.

 

[Russell]

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

 

[gallagher]

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

Wait till he makes s bad error? You mean another one don't you?

 

[Russell]

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

Wait till he makes s bad error? You mean another one don't you?

If you are talking about Farah - I don't put it all down to him - the Board had to have had a hand in it as well.

I don't know of any other glaring errors he has made. Please enlighten me.

 

[gallagher]

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

Wait till he makes s bad error? You mean another one don't you?

If you are talking about Farah - I don't put it all down to him - the Board had to have had a hand in it as well.

I don't know of any other glaring errors he has made. Please enlighten me.

Mate he admitted his error in cheating the cap. 2 years with a hindered cap isn't enough? He also brought his mate on as coach then sat by as his mate screwed our cap further with poor signings.
But you know this Russell, we all know what's happened.

 

[Russell]

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

Wait till he makes s bad error? You mean another one don't you?

If you are talking about Farah - I don't put it all down to him - the Board had to have had a hand in it as well.

I don't know of any other glaring errors he has made. Please enlighten me.

Mate he admitted his error in cheating the cap. 2 years with a hindered cap isn't enough? He also brought his mate on as coach then sat by as his mate screwed our cap further with poor signings.
But you know this Russell, we all know what's happened.

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

Wait till he makes s bad error? You mean another one don't you?

If you are talking about Farah - I don't put it all down to him - the Board had to have had a hand in it as well.

I don't know of any other glaring errors he has made. Please enlighten me.

Mate he admitted his error in cheating the cap. 2 years with a hindered cap isn't enough? He also brought his mate on as coach then sat by as his mate screwed our cap further with poor signings.
But you know this Russell, we all know what's happened.

You have your opinion - I have mine.

If you think he signed Cleary without Board approval you are as dumb as.

And of course everyone knew Cleary was going to screw us over - give us a break!

 

[gallagher]

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

Wait till he makes s bad error? You mean another one don't you?

If you are talking about Farah - I don't put it all down to him - the Board had to have had a hand in it as well.

I don't know of any other glaring errors he has made. Please enlighten me.

Mate he admitted his error in cheating the cap. 2 years with a hindered cap isn't enough? He also brought his mate on as coach then sat by as his mate screwed our cap further with poor signings.
But you know this Russell, we all know what's happened.

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

Wait till he makes s bad error? You mean another one don't you?

If you are talking about Farah - I don't put it all down to him - the Board had to have had a hand in it as well.

I don't know of any other glaring errors he has made. Please enlighten me.

Mate he admitted his error in cheating the cap. 2 years with a hindered cap isn't enough? He also brought his mate on as coach then sat by as his mate screwed our cap further with poor signings.
But you know this Russell, we all know what's happened.

You have your opinion - I have mine.

If you think he signed Cleary without Board approval you are as dumb as.

And of course everyone knew Cleary was going to screw us over - give us a break!

Ah well, it looks like he's bringing Benny Elias on board. Let's wait and see how much he can stuff up before we judge him hey? What could go wrong.

 

[Russell]

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

Wait till he makes s bad error? You mean another one don't you?

If you are talking about Farah - I don't put it all down to him - the Board had to have had a hand in it as well.

I don't know of any other glaring errors he has made. Please enlighten me.

Mate he admitted his error in cheating the cap. 2 years with a hindered cap isn't enough? He also brought his mate on as coach then sat by as his mate screwed our cap further with poor signings.
But you know this Russell, we all know what's happened.

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

@TigerTiger This is exactly what should be happening ..Some strong leadership by Pascoe would not go astray here but I suppose being lead around by Benny Elias is more desirable! Pascoe is the clubs representative.. time to step up ! The latest charade involving Elias just high lights how poorly Run this club is ... rudderless to say the least every other day there is more proof what an unprofessional organisation it is !
Time for a new CEO would be a start !

You do not know (nor do just about everyone on this Forum), what Pascoe is doing in his business life, you are constantly assuming he is doing nothing or the wrong thing. Wait till he makes a bad error of judgement etc. before slamming him Snake.
It is getting boring reading unfounded or unconfirmed rumours about Pascoe.

Wait till he makes s bad error? You mean another one don't you?

If you are talking about Farah - I don't put it all down to him - the Board had to have had a hand in it as well.

I don't know of any other glaring errors he has made. Please enlighten me.

Mate he admitted his error in cheating the cap. 2 years with a hindered cap isn't enough? He also brought his mate on as coach then sat by as his mate screwed our cap further with poor signings.
But you know this Russell, we all know what's happened.

You have your opinion - I have mine.

If you think he signed Cleary without Board approval you are as dumb as.

And of course everyone knew Cleary was going to screw us over - give us a break!

Ah well, it looks like he's bringing Benny Elias on board. Let's wait and see how much he can stuff up before we judge him hey? What could go wrong.

Think he is smart enough to have "Backdoor" covered. If anything were signed I am sure Pascoe would have stop valves put in the contract if this happens, if that happens etc.

Besides I read on here yesterday that "Mr Maserati" was not interested so it is all academic.

 

[fibrodreaming]

The latest statement by Orr just shows how much his and Matterson's reputations have been damaged. Robbie was the last to go public about how badly Matterson had been advised. Looks like they Matterson and Orr are both trying to salvage their reputation.

The problem for them is that this excuse won't fly. Madge has said more than once that he had a number of meetings with Matterson who told him he had no problems with him as coach.

So either Matterson is a liar and not man enough to look Madge in the eye and tell him what he thinks; or, he is not a liar and is just greedy. Either way, his reputation (and his managers) have taken a hit.

 

[beachtiger]

@beachtiger I agree but it wouldn't happen. It would be; nice highlights reel Ryan, sign here.

Yeah you’re probably right, I just don’t understand how a player that went to another level at his new club now wants out because all of a sudden it’s not what he $igned up for, or $o he and hi$ manager want u$ to believe!!

 

[NT_Tiger]

@beachtiger
Well there is another way of looking at it. It could be that, to him, WT was always just going to be a stepping stone and he never planned a career here.
A good but not great player looks ok but nothing special in a team of rep players whereas the same player looks great in an average team. Wests Tigers are cemented in 9th place, so the definition of average. He could come to us and ride the tide into the finals (if we had made it) and claim some of the improvement for himself.
So, did he go to another level or was he just given more game time and looked relatively good by comparison to the players around him?

 

[TCL]

@Madge i dont have a problem with that. Needs to be more of it, i think we see to much of the opposite patting a guy on the back when he makes a mistake. Same game, Thompsons attempt was a shocker he should have copped a spray for that from his team mates. Of course the spray stays on the field.

 

[Madge]

@TCL fair enough.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

@Tiger_Steve
I think it's time that we don't give this oxygen thief anymore mileage it gone past boring the stage