Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

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@gallagher What about a massive marque signing. Like a real superstar, someone we're paying $1m for and someone worth it. Someone the players really look up to as being elite. Maybe then players will think if that person wants to play for us and stay here, they will too??

And I have no idea who fits that description, but I'm thinking we need something desperate to break this cycle. The board aren't going to help, they just buckle. I don't see what any current players can do. i don't see what signing good young up and comers will do, if they make it big they will just leave too.
 
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063385) said:
@TigerTiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063384) said:
@gallagher And we're still picking up the pieces.

We so need a break

No, need better management. The fool that has stuffed our cap, brought Cleary here and signed off on those contracts is still in charge.

Yes, I hate to knock anyone in their job...but Pascoe has been a disaster.

1. Brought in Cleary "his mate"
2. Allowed "his trusted mate" power over everything...sat back whilst Cleary offered guys like Packer, with a history of injuries and a crim record (thus no chance of a English SL exit) four years for 2 million.
Sat back and smiled whilst Cleary handed out "life changing" mega deals to Ben and Josh.
Never got wind of his "mate" about to betray us.
Naivety.........
3. Messed up the cap costing us around 600 000...i.e. two players.
Incompetence...................................

Pascoe has been a disaster and is the reason we are in this mess. He may be a nice bloke, but he is way, way out of his depth.

That he is still in his job after what has happened defies belief. In any decent club he'd be gone.
 
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063385) said:
@TigerTiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063384) said:
@gallagher And we're still picking up the pieces.

We so need a break

No, need better management. The fool that has stuffed our cap, brought Cleary here and signed off on those contracts is still in charge.

Still amazed he has a job
 
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063390) said:
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063385) said:
@TigerTiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063384) said:
@gallagher And we're still picking up the pieces.

We so need a break

No, need better management. The fool that has stuffed our cap, brought Cleary here and signed off on those contracts is still in charge.

Yes, I hate to knock anyone in their job...but Pascoe has been a disaster.

1. Brought in Cleary "his mate"
2. Allowed "his trusted mate" power over everything...sat back whilst Cleary offered guys like Packer, with a history of injuries and a crim record (thus no chance of a English SL exit) four years for 2 million.
Sat back and smiled whilst Cleary handed out "life changing" mega deals to Ben and Josh.
Never got wind of his "mate" about to betray us.
Naivety.........
3. Messed up the cap costing us around 600 000...i.e. two players.
Incompetence...................................

Pascoe has been a disaster and is the reason we are in this mess. He may be a nice bloke, but he is way, way out of his depth.

That he is still in his job after what has happened defies belief. In any decent club he'd be gone.


And read made a comment re the the profit the club made was mainly from west’s ashfield anyway.
 
Why not bring things to a head by making it crystal clear to Matterson and his agent that he won't be playing any place other than Wests Tigers for the next 2 years. A lot can happen in that 2 years. He might even come to love playing for us.
 
@TigerTiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063388) said:
@gallagher What about a massive marque signing. Like a real superstar, someone we're paying $1m for and someone worth it. Someone the players really look up to as being elite. Maybe then players will think if that person wants to play for us and stay here, they will too??

And I have no idea who fits that description, but I'm thinking we need something desperate to break this cycle. The board aren't going to help, they just buckle. I don't see what any current players can do. i don't see what signing good young up and comers will do, if they make it big they will just leave too.

I hear you mate, I think souths turned the corner when they got Inglis to the club . The only hope I have is that Madge gets the support he needs and is as good as I think he is.
 
@tony-soprano said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063397) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063390) said:
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063385) said:
@TigerTiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063384) said:
@gallagher And we're still picking up the pieces.

We so need a break

No, need better management. The fool that has stuffed our cap, brought Cleary here and signed off on those contracts is still in charge.

Yes, I hate to knock anyone in their job...but Pascoe has been a disaster.

1. Brought in Cleary "his mate"
2. Allowed "his trusted mate" power over everything...sat back whilst Cleary offered guys like Packer, with a history of injuries and a crim record (thus no chance of a English SL exit) four years for 2 million.
Sat back and smiled whilst Cleary handed out "life changing" mega deals to Ben and Josh.
Never got wind of his "mate" about to betray us.
Naivety.........
3. Messed up the cap costing us around 600 000...i.e. two players.
Incompetence...................................

Pascoe has been a disaster and is the reason we are in this mess. He may be a nice bloke, but he is way, way out of his depth.

That he is still in his job after what has happened defies belief. In any decent club he'd be gone.


And read made a comment re the the profit the club made was mainly from west’s ashfield anyway.

Brent Read? I missed that.
I wanna know if the profit is after leagues club grant. Because clubs with leagues club support usually post their figures not including the club grant.
 
Huge giveaway in the Madge interview. Some of you will laugh at this but it’s used widely and heavily: when Madge commented on Matterson’s Strong contribution to the team he involuntarily scratched around his left eye - sure sign that he was not saying it as he really sees it. Believe it or don’t believe it, up to you. Made me think this is a serious issue and Madge is perhaps not real happy with him.
 
@Tiger_Steve no laughing mate I have studied body language and I might say very good at it , once he touched his face that was it .. a major problem . Just like how people talk it is just an open book ..can not get away with what our body expresses you just have to know how to read it .
 
@gallagher I wish we could get Latrell. $1.1m/year even $1.2m/year over 5+ years I reckon. Then clubs would look at us twice and wonder why he came here, what do we have here...
 
@TigerTiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063408) said:
@gallagher I wish we could get Latrell. $1.1m/year even $1.2m/year over 5+ years I reckon. Then clubs would look at us twice and wonder why he came here, what do we have here...


I’ll tell you what we don’t have ........ Latrell
 
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063403) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063397) said:
@ElleryHanley said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063390) said:
@gallagher said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063385) said:
@TigerTiger said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063384) said:
@gallagher And we're still picking up the pieces.

We so need a break

No, need better management. The fool that has stuffed our cap, brought Cleary here and signed off on those contracts is still in charge.

Yes, I hate to knock anyone in their job...but Pascoe has been a disaster.

1. Brought in Cleary "his mate"
2. Allowed "his trusted mate" power over everything...sat back whilst Cleary offered guys like Packer, with a history of injuries and a crim record (thus no chance of a English SL exit) four years for 2 million.
Sat back and smiled whilst Cleary handed out "life changing" mega deals to Ben and Josh.
Never got wind of his "mate" about to betray us.
Naivety.........
3. Messed up the cap costing us around 600 000...i.e. two players.
Incompetence...................................

Pascoe has been a disaster and is the reason we are in this mess. He may be a nice bloke, but he is way, way out of his depth.

That he is still in his job after what has happened defies belief. In any decent club he'd be gone.


And read made a comment re the the profit the club made was mainly from west’s ashfield anyway.

Brent Read? I missed that.
I wanna know if the profit is after leagues club grant. Because clubs with leagues club support usually post their figures not including the club grant.


Yeah on Twitter
 
@Snake said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063406) said:
@Tiger_Steve no laughing mate I have studied body language and I might say very good at it , once he touched his face that was it .. a major problem . Just like how people talk it is just an open book ..can not get away with what our body expresses you just have to know how to read it .


I noticed he scratched his chest at the start of the interview. What does that mean?
 
@tony-soprano said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063415) said:
@Snake said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063406) said:
@Tiger_Steve no laughing mate I have studied body language and I might say very good at it , once he touched his face that was it .. a major problem . Just like how people talk it is just an open book ..can not get away with what our body expresses you just have to know how to read it .


I noticed he scratched his chest at the start of the interview. What does that mean?


He had an itchy chest
 
My partner is a detective. She said if someone looks to the right when giving a statement/being interviewed, they are telling porkies
Did Madge happen to look to his right when speaking ?
 
@Wounded_magpie said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063417) said:
My partner is a detective. She said if someone looks to the right when giving a statement/being interviewed, they are telling porkies
Did Madge happen to look to his right when speaking ?


I just remembered he scratched his chest at the start
 
@tony-soprano said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063418) said:
@Wounded_magpie said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063417) said:
My partner is a detective. She said if someone looks to the right when giving a statement/being interviewed, they are telling porkies
Did Madge happen to look to his right when speaking ?


I just remembered he scratched his chest at the start

Did he scratch his balls too?
Could be bad signs of he did.
Like Matto leaving, or the Club relocating to Perth....or crabs.
 
I'd simply state to Matterson, we'd love him to keep playing with us for the agreed value and time of his contract. If he does feel like he doesn't like the game anymore he is welcome to take a leave of absence in the off-season and find his passion again. If its not what he signed up for with Cleary ask him to show where in the contract we are missing something. If he wants out to play elsewhere, ask him who and where and then tell him he will be playing reserves at WT for the next 2 years. No ifs and buts. If it is found his manager and the other club have been going behind WT back, even for his poor mental health and fragility, sue both of them and Matterson.

No prisoners.................. WT doormats way too long.
 
@Sabre said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063419) said:
@tony-soprano said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063418) said:
@Wounded_magpie said in [Matterson unhappy at Tigers?](/post/1063417) said:
My partner is a detective. She said if someone looks to the right when giving a statement/being interviewed, they are telling porkies
Did Madge happen to look to his right when speaking ?


I just remembered he scratched his chest at the start

Did he scratch his balls too?
Could be bad signs of he did.
Like Matto leaving, or the Club relocating to Perth....or crabs.


Cannot confirm or deny
 
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