Confirmed: Matterson released from Wests Tigers.

[Bee-Em]

@Yossarian...I am thinking along the same lines re membership, more than happy to to support the Tigers forever, but just not financially. Yes some of these things might not be the clubs doing, but these types of things just keep happening, with no end in sight. Why should I be paying for this?

With regards to R.Matterson, if he genuinely wants to leave, let him go. Trying to teach him a lesson by putting him in reserve grade would be I think a "cut your nose off" scenario, which benefits no one. Shop him around for the highest dollar possible, turn this thing into a positive for the Tigers. Yes he had a good year, but he seems to be building himself a not so nice reputation.

 

[Krammy]

I had hopes at the end of this season that we were going somewhere and that within a couple of years we could let some overpaid players go and build a team around Brooks and Matterson. Now Matterson is leaving........I am tired of having my hopes dashed. I have opted not to renew my membership for 2020. I will not stop supporting the team, but I cannot keep copping this as a fan. Something has to change - so that this club is not seen by players and player managers as a place to earn some above value coin for nearly retiring players, or as a place where I can get a start and then move on to to a more 'fashionable' club. What needs to change is people's perceptions about who Wests Tigers are. How can this be changed? My personal view is we have to present an attractive proposition for players and their managers - eg powerful corporate support for the club that can offer third party agreements on par with teams like the Roosters, playing out of one venue that is both financially viable and comfortable for fans, high expectations for success driven by management and coaches, quality recruiting processes, excellent training facilities. We currently come up short in a number of these areas and until this changes we will struggle.

 

[cochise]

@happy_tiger Interesting. A couple of questions if I Could;
a) are you employed on a contract
b) have you withdrawn your labour
c) are you or your representatives discussing opportunities with other employers.
Unless the answer to these questions is yes, your circumstances are very different.

Well if you want to class a contract and salary as the same YES to all 3

I haven't withdrawn my labour .....but said I will drop it to the next lowest management's level

A contract and a Salary are not the same thing!

 

[Sart0ri]

I had hopes at the end of this season that we were going somewhere and that within a couple of years we could let some overpaid players go and build a team around Brooks and Matterson. Now Matterson is leaving........I am tired of having my hopes dashed. I have opted not to renew my membership for 2020. I will not stop supporting the team, but I cannot keep copping this as a fan. Something has to change - so that this club is not seen by players and player managers as a place to earn some above value coin for nearly retiring players, or as a place where I can get a start and then move on to to a more 'fashionable' club. What needs to change is people's perceptions about who Wests Tigers are. How can this be changed? My personal view is we have to present an attractive proposition for players and their managers - eg powerful corporate support for the club that can offer third party agreements on par with teams like the Roosters, playing out of one venue that is both financially viable and comfortable for fans, high expectations for success driven by management and coaches, quality recruiting processes, excellent training facilities. We currently come up short in a number of these areas and until this changes we will struggle.

I really hope the club is looking at this feedback

 

[ElleryHanley]

For the first time ever I’m seriously considering not renewing my membership. We sign a bloke on unders for a change and when he packs a sad we help him pack his suitcase. Brett Read is right. Make Matterson play out his contract and he can do what he likes after that. If he doesn’t perform play him in the Reggies and he can watch his next contract value decline.

Things can’t go on like this. We get stuck with the bad end on both sides - having to pay overs underperforming players but not getting any benefit from smart signings. And so long as we roll over, agents and other clubs know they can do whatever they want. Like the look of a Tigers player? Just browbeat them into releasing them (hi Marty Tapau). Like our coach? Just get him to come to you and arrange the details with WT later. Think your client is underpaid? Just get him to spit the dummy and skip out of season training. The club will rollover soon enough....

Great post.

 

[fibrodreaming]

For the first time ever I’m seriously considering not renewing my membership. We sign a bloke on unders for a change and when he packs a sad we help him pack his suitcase. Brett Read is right. Make Matterson play out his contract and he can do what he likes after that.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions. There are a lot of posts recently that assume that Matterson is gone and that the club is sitting back and waving goodbye. That seems far from the truth.

Yesterday, in reply to The POM's post, The_Doc said:

"sounds like he’s as good as gone mate thanks for the info". THE POM replied:

"ONLY if we get what we want, otherwise he’ll be here in 2020."

So don't tear up your membership just yet.

 

[gallagher]

I had hopes at the end of this season that we were going somewhere and that within a couple of years we could let some overpaid players go and build a team around Brooks and Matterson. Now Matterson is leaving........I am tired of having my hopes dashed. I have opted not to renew my membership for 2020. I will not stop supporting the team, but I cannot keep copping this as a fan. Something has to change - so that this club is not seen by players and player managers as a place to earn some above value coin for nearly retiring players, or as a place where I can get a start and then move on to to a more 'fashionable' club. What needs to change is people's perceptions about who Wests Tigers are. How can this be changed? My personal view is we have to present an attractive proposition for players and their managers - eg powerful corporate support for the club that can offer third party agreements on par with teams like the Roosters, playing out of one venue that is both financially viable and comfortable for fans, high expectations for success driven by management and coaches, quality recruiting processes, excellent training facilities. We currently come up short in a number of these areas and until this changes we will struggle.

I really hope the club is looking at this feedback

If memberships slip then internal questions will be asked by the board.

 

[Elderslie_Tiger]

I had hopes at the end of this season that we were going somewhere and that within a couple of years we could let some overpaid players go and build a team around Brooks and Matterson. Now Matterson is leaving........I am tired of having my hopes dashed. I have opted not to renew my membership for 2020. I will not stop supporting the team, but I cannot keep copping this as a fan. Something has to change - so that this club is not seen by players and player managers as a place to earn some above value coin for nearly retiring players, or as a place where I can get a start and then move on to to a more 'fashionable' club. What needs to change is people's perceptions about who Wests Tigers are. How can this be changed? My personal view is we have to present an attractive proposition for players and their managers - eg powerful corporate support for the club that can offer third party agreements on par with teams like the Roosters, playing out of one venue that is both financially viable and comfortable for fans, high expectations for success driven by management and coaches, quality recruiting processes, excellent training facilities. We currently come up short in a number of these areas and until this changes we will struggle.

I really hope the club is looking at this feedback

If memberships slip then internal questions will be asked by the board.

If anyone tears up their membership over this twerp you need to have a good look look at yourselves .He's been given permission to talk to others which means he has one foot out the door his team are pi***d off with his attitude (never a good sign) his management team I would rate below Isaac Moses and other thing is he as good as everyone seems to be wetting their pants over NO!!!!!!

 

[Westie]

Maybe I am missing something, but why dont we have a transfer payment like the soccer leagues have.
So you can have our player but it's going to cost $x.
That we can forget about all that crap about needing a break etc...
And clubs like ours can get a return for developing players... (I know we didn't develop Matterson ) .

 

[Newtown]

@fibrodreaming Then why most people on this forum keep complaining that the club has no spine to stand up aginst Matterson?

 

[Bathursttiger2]

We absolutely cannot come out of this with simply Matterson released....if so, we will be a complete joke.

We need to aggressively shop him as part of a package deal....a club can have him, but they take Josh or Packer with him.

Anything else will be farcical. If we simply say 'okay, stop sooking, you can leave!' we may as well just give up.

This has to be a pivotal moment in the club's history and we have to come out of it with a deal that benefits us.

That’s what the Sharks did when we off loaded Gibbs they only agreed if we added Fifita as well or it was no deal.
We need to play hard ball with this situation, no major benefit to WT then go and meet you’re new team mates in CC.

 

[gallagher]

I had hopes at the end of this season that we were going somewhere and that within a couple of years we could let some overpaid players go and build a team around Brooks and Matterson. Now Matterson is leaving........I am tired of having my hopes dashed. I have opted not to renew my membership for 2020. I will not stop supporting the team, but I cannot keep copping this as a fan. Something has to change - so that this club is not seen by players and player managers as a place to earn some above value coin for nearly retiring players, or as a place where I can get a start and then move on to to a more 'fashionable' club. What needs to change is people's perceptions about who Wests Tigers are. How can this be changed? My personal view is we have to present an attractive proposition for players and their managers - eg powerful corporate support for the club that can offer third party agreements on par with teams like the Roosters, playing out of one venue that is both financially viable and comfortable for fans, high expectations for success driven by management and coaches, quality recruiting processes, excellent training facilities. We currently come up short in a number of these areas and until this changes we will struggle.

I really hope the club is looking at this feedback

If memberships slip then internal questions will be asked by the board.

If anyone tears up their membership over this twerp you need to have a good look look at yourselves .He's been given permission to talk to others which means he has one foot out the door his team are pi***d off with his attitude (never a good sign) his management team I would rate below Isaac Moses and other thing is he as good as everyone seems to be wetting their pants over NO!!!!!!

This isn't a one off event though, is it?

 

[Roar_Power]

Look Madge isn't stupid. He knows the team needs results on the field and he needs results to stay in his position as Head Coach. He will be leveraging this Matterson fiasco to come out ahead.

 

[TheDaBoss]

Look Madge isn't stupid. He knows the team needs results on the field and he needs results to stay in his position as Head Coach. He will be leveraging this Matterson fiasco to come out ahead.

Look Madge isn't stupid. He knows the team needs results on the field and he needs results to stay in his position as Head Coach. He will be leveraging this Matterson fiasco to come out ahead.

the fiasco is probably already sorted...... media just milking it

 

[Bathursttiger2]

Maybe I am missing something, but why dont we have a transfer payment like the soccer leagues have.
So you can have our player but it's going to cost $x.
That we can forget about all that crap about needing a break etc...
And clubs like ours can get a return for developing players... (I know we didn't develop Matterson ) .

Ask Neil Pringle he has the answer.

 

[Yossarian]

I had hopes at the end of this season that we were going somewhere and that within a couple of years we could let some overpaid players go and build a team around Brooks and Matterson. Now Matterson is leaving........I am tired of having my hopes dashed. I have opted not to renew my membership for 2020. I will not stop supporting the team, but I cannot keep copping this as a fan. Something has to change - so that this club is not seen by players and player managers as a place to earn some above value coin for nearly retiring players, or as a place where I can get a start and then move on to to a more 'fashionable' club. What needs to change is people's perceptions about who Wests Tigers are. How can this be changed? My personal view is we have to present an attractive proposition for players and their managers - eg powerful corporate support for the club that can offer third party agreements on par with teams like the Roosters, playing out of one venue that is both financially viable and comfortable for fans, high expectations for success driven by management and coaches, quality recruiting processes, excellent training facilities. We currently come up short in a number of these areas and until this changes we will struggle.

I really hope the club is looking at this feedback

If memberships slip then internal questions will be asked by the board.

If anyone tears up their membership over this twerp you need to have a good look look at yourselves .He's been given permission to talk to others which means he has one foot out the door his team are pi***d off with his attitude (never a good sign) his management team I would rate below Isaac Moses and other thing is he as good as everyone seems to be wetting their pants over NO!!!!!!

It’s not about Matterson it’s the message this club sends on a regular basis that we’re a soft touch. You start to question how we can ever get anywhere when we rollover time and time again. Anyone who looks half decent leaves - often while under contract. It gets a bit tired after a while.

 

[gallagher]

Look Madge isn't stupid. He knows the team needs results on the field and he needs results to stay in his position as Head Coach. He will be leveraging this Matterson fiasco to come out ahead.

Yes, at least we have an experienced guy in charge, along with Hartigan.

 

[Yossarian]

For the first time ever I’m seriously considering not renewing my membership. We sign a bloke on unders for a change and when he packs a sad we help him pack his suitcase. Brett Read is right. Make Matterson play out his contract and he can do what he likes after that.

I wouldn't jump to conclusions. There are a lot of posts recently that assume that Matterson is gone and that the club is sitting back and waving goodbye. That seems far from the truth.

Yesterday, in reply to The POM's post, The_Doc said:

"sounds like he’s as good as gone mate thanks for the info". THE POM replied:

"ONLY if we get what we want, otherwise he’ll be here in 2020."

So don't tear up your membership just yet.

We’ll see. Past history doesn’t inspire confidence from me.

 

[Geo]

So what happens if no quality players wants to be part of the trade. People talk about Arrow, he has been on struggle street at the coast why would he come to Tiger town when he will get offers from most clubs

I been thinking about this too..What is Arrow's or AJ Brimson motivation who's been mentioned to come...More Money than they are currently on..? A great desire to wear the Mighty Wests Tigers Jersey..? Play under Maguire..?

You would have to think Money if so ..are we better off..I dunno..

 

[tigerap]

I had hopes at the end of this season that we were going somewhere and that within a couple of years we could let some overpaid players go and build a team around Brooks and Matterson. Now Matterson is leaving........I am tired of having my hopes dashed. I have opted not to renew my membership for 2020. I will not stop supporting the team, but I cannot keep copping this as a fan. Something has to change - so that this club is not seen by players and player managers as a place to earn some above value coin for nearly retiring players, or as a place where I can get a start and then move on to to a more 'fashionable' club. What needs to change is people's perceptions about who Wests Tigers are. How can this be changed? My personal view is we have to present an attractive proposition for players and their managers - eg powerful corporate support for the club that can offer third party agreements on par with teams like the Roosters, playing out of one venue that is both financially viable and comfortable for fans, high expectations for success driven by management and coaches, quality recruiting processes, excellent training facilities. We currently come up short in a number of these areas and until this changes we will struggle.

I really hope the club is looking at this feedback

If memberships slip then internal questions will be asked by the board.

If anyone tears up their membership over this twerp you need to have a good look look at yourselves .He's been given permission to talk to others which means he has one foot out the door his team are pi***d off with his attitude (never a good sign) his management team I would rate below Isaac Moses and other thing is he as good as everyone seems to be wetting their pants over NO!!!!!!

It’s not about Matterson it’s the message this club sends on a regular basis that we’re a soft touch. You start to question how we can ever get anywhere when we rollover time and time again. Anyone who looks half decent leaves - often while under contract. It gets a bit tired after a while.

Moses Suli
Tevita Tatola
Ryan Papenhuyzen
Josh Addo Car
Marty Taupau
Taniela paseka
Ryan Matterson
Mitchell Moses
Aaron woods
James Tedesco
Blake Austin
Curtis Sironen

All the above left or were let go by the Tigers are in their prime right now...sad state of affairs imo