Conspiracy Theory

[happy_tiger]

I'll pose the same question I posed to Greatodensraven

Why bring it up ….....it wasn't going to be an issue ...... he had already been picked to play SOO ..........he was basically an established 1st grader ............................. ??

Ok it was all part of Gus's 5 year plan now entering it's 9th year..

Math is proving an issue , Ivan was sacked 19th of October 2015

Nathan played NRL for Penrith 13 Rounds later Geo in 2016 v Melbourne , they lost 24-6

Coincidence ??

Penrith have an established coach in Griffin who has filled an entire off season with them for 2016 and is someone who is HAND PICKED by Gould as someone who Gould can control and is re-signed in the same year he was terminated FACT

Someone Gould can control HOW Nathan is coached until Nathan is ready to stand unaided ,Griffin admits in his own interview Gus like a lot of say in what happens on field )

And if Nathan fails , Gould blames Griffin and still sacks him after his assistant coach who is now the coach (more coincidence ) alleges he threatened to quit FACT

THIS IS ALL FACTS GEO , we have all seen this happen

So I will ask everyone again the same question I STILL DON"T HAVE A PLAUSIBLE ANSWER TO ….........why did Ivan Cleary come out and tell us all after NC has played SOO that he was concerned coaching his son before he was established ????

:brick: Gus is in his 9th year at Penrith…

And that changes my original post how ?? :crazy

 

[Geo]

Ok it was all part of Gus's 5 year plan now entering it's 9th year..

Math is proving an issue , Ivan was sacked 19th of October 2015

Nathan played NRL for Penrith 13 Rounds later Geo in 2016 v Melbourne , they lost 24-6

Coincidence ??

Penrith have an established coach in Griffin who has filled an entire off season with them for 2016 and is someone who is HAND PICKED by Gould as someone who Gould can control and is re-signed in the same year he was terminated FACT

Someone Gould can control HOW Nathan is coached until Nathan is ready to stand unaided ,Griffin admits in his own interview Gus like a lot of say in what happens on field )

And if Nathan fails , Gould blames Griffin and still sacks him after his assistant coach who is now the coach (more coincidence ) alleges he threatened to quit FACT

THIS IS ALL FACTS GEO , we have all seen this happen

So I will ask everyone again the same question I STILL DON"T HAVE A PLAUSIBLE ANSWER TO ….........why did Ivan Cleary come out and tell us all after NC has played SOO that he was concerned coaching his son before he was established ????

:brick: Gus is in his 9th year at Penrith…

And that changes my original post how ?? :crazy

It doesn't the original post is still stupid…

 

[happy_tiger]

Math is proving an issue , Ivan was sacked 19th of October 2015

Nathan played NRL for Penrith 13 Rounds later Geo in 2016 v Melbourne , they lost 24-6

Coincidence ??

Penrith have an established coach in Griffin who has filled an entire off season with them for 2016 and is someone who is HAND PICKED by Gould as someone who Gould can control and is re-signed in the same year he was terminated FACT

Someone Gould can control HOW Nathan is coached until Nathan is ready to stand unaided ,Griffin admits in his own interview Gus like a lot of say in what happens on field )

And if Nathan fails , Gould blames Griffin and still sacks him after his assistant coach who is now the coach (more coincidence ) alleges he threatened to quit FACT

THIS IS ALL FACTS GEO , we have all seen this happen

So I will ask everyone again the same question I STILL DON"T HAVE A PLAUSIBLE ANSWER TO ….........why did Ivan Cleary come out and tell us all after NC has played SOO that he was concerned coaching his son before he was established ????

:brick: Gus is in his 9th year at Penrith…

And that changes my original post how ?? :crazy

It doesn't the original post is still stupid…

Not stupid , just too complex for some to understand …....

 

[Balmainbred]

Out of all of this fiasco, the only person I’d like to see get a gig and stick it in Gould face is Griffin.

 

[innsaneink]

:brick: Gus is in his 9th year at Penrith…

And that changes my original post how ?? :crazy

It doesn't the original post is still stupid…

Not stupid , just too complex for some to understand …....

OK….I'll go do seven years of psychiatry and I'll be right back.
Did the voices assist you with this theory?

 

[innsaneink]

Hmm he said it on 360\. He has talked about coaching Nathan once his established removing the nepotism about it. I’m not so sure he had this thought when Nathan was 17 years old. His said it so himself around the time Nathan debuted that he wouldn’t have given him that opportunity so early.

 

[NT_Tiger]

No. I think it is too complicated to exist in the real world. There are too many risks for all concerned to follow that convoluted path.
I simply think Ivan's comment was about him avoiding controversy about nepotism.

 

[happy_tiger]

And that changes my original post how ?? :crazy

It doesn't the original post is still stupid…

Not stupid , just too complex for some to understand …....

OK….I'll go do seven years of psychiatry and I'll be right back.
Did the voices assist you with this theory?

Not sure , I'll check with the other voices

Throw in the fact one week before , Gus is telling all and sundry that if Nathan wants to leave he can

Again , nothing personal , if people can't see that we have all been played by the Cleary's and Gus I can't help them

 

[Silentio]

The timing is interesting (Ivan "sacked", Nathan makes debut the following year).

But don't forget that Penrith had a shocker in Ivan's last year after they'd finished top 4 the season before and looked like real premiership contenders.

 

[Demps]

Definitely needed its own thread.

 

[jirskyr]

A major hole in this theory is what happens to Ivan if Nathan never develops as a 1st grader or had a run of injuries. He’s basically gambled his career away on a 17 year old kid.

Agreed.

Either Nathan develops as a legit 1st grader, or he doesn't. It doesn't really have anything to do with his Dad. Sure his Dad could give him more scope at a club, but ultimately if they don't cut it, they don't cut it. Fans won't cop sons being picked who can't do the job, so there's a finite level of protection Ivan can provide as head coach. On the other hand, if the kid is any good, nobody cares about familial ties.

So for me, whatever Ivan does is independent of whether or not Nathan becomes a consistent first grader. Therefore I cannot imagine Ivan intentionally modifies his career trajectory as a backup for a potential faltering in Nathan's career.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Needaname reckons Ivan Cleary has already signed with panthers for 2021.

 

[magpiecol]

Needaname reckons Ivan Cleary has already signed with panthers for 2021.

The IC forum has been shut down. Don't start another one.

:deadhorse:

 

[Guest]

Needaname reckons Ivan Cleary has already signed with panthers for 2021.

If you continue down this path in targeting another forum member - you'll be punted from this forum.

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Needaname reckons Ivan Cleary has already signed with panthers for 2021.

If you continue down this path in targeting another forum member - you'll be punted from this forum.

I’m not targeting anyone, don’t have no issues with him. I’m repeating what he stated as he sounded like he had some insider information.

 

[Guest]

Needaname reckons Ivan Cleary has already signed with panthers for 2021.

If you continue down this path in targeting another forum member - you'll be punted from this forum.

I’m not targeting anyone, don’t have no issues with him. I’m repeating what he stated as he sounded like he had some insider information.

He doesn't, so please stop sounding one another out and making this personal. I'd rather not close threads but in the Ivan Cleary thread I was left with no choice as people continually fail to heed advice and requests to keep things civil and on point.

 

[Donald_Trump]

Needaname reckons Ivan Cleary has already signed with panthers for 2021.

If you continue down this path in targeting another forum member - you'll be punted from this forum.

I’m not targeting anyone, don’t have no issues with him. I’m repeating what he stated as he sounded like he had some insider information.

He doesn't, so please stop sounding one another out and making this personal. I'd rather not close threads but in the Ivan Cleary thread I was left with no choice as people continually fail to heed advice and requests to keep things civil and on point.

I got punted years ago for saying I didn’t like Chris Lawrence when he sucked ?

Double standards Willow?

 

[TIGERPOWER]

Needaname reckons Ivan Cleary has already signed with panthers for 2021.

If you continue down this path in targeting another forum member - you'll be punted from this forum.

I’m not targeting anyone, don’t have no issues with him. I’m repeating what he stated as he sounded like he had some insider information.

He doesn't, so please stop sounding one another out and making this personal. I'd rather not close threads but in the Ivan Cleary thread I was left with no choice as people continually fail to heed advice and requests to keep things civil and on point.

Thanks. All good from my end.

 

[The_Patriot]

Needaname reckons Ivan Cleary has already signed with panthers for 2021.

If you continue down this path in targeting another forum member - you'll be punted from this forum.

Willow no doubt Tigerpower targets Needaname here. Clear as day but why threaten to kick him out and say nothing to Needaname when he hounded the life out of him and anyone else who had anything negative to say about Ivan Cleary on the IC thread?

It starts somewhere.

 

[The_Patriot]

There is a lot of water under the bridge with Ivan. Its completely unrealistic to expect everyone to still be on his bus.

If people are posting honest and well thought out opinions for or against Ivan Cleary let them have their say. Enough with the personal rubbish.