cochise
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@Geo said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146449) said:
Maybe it isn't?
Corona impact on NRL...?
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Maybe it isn't?
Cameraderie in the game - I wish.
There's always cameraderie in the crowd when we go to games.
But cameraderie between players ceased 1979 when the Manly cheque book stole Wests big 3 of the day (Dorahy, Brown and Boyd) with O'Grady and Raudonikis also going to Newtown at the end of the season.
I refer to Roy Masters article of 22 April, 2017 - https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers-fail-to-learn-the-lessons-of-history-20170420-gvoqaw.html
"....In 1979, Wests' semi-final campaign was derailed by whispers three of their best players – John Dorahy, Les Boyd and Ray Brown – would sign with rival clubs. As coach, I recall running laps of Lidcombe Oval before training with the players, only to notice the "big three" fall back behind the group and presumably discuss their futures.
I recall centre Wayne Smith suggesting we have a private fundraiser to retain the players, but it all seemed too difficult for a cash-strapped club to compete financially in a competition without a salary cap. ....."
There's always cameraderie in the crowd when we go to games.
But cameraderie between players ceased 1979 when the Manly cheque book stole Wests big 3 of the day (Dorahy, Brown and Boyd) with O'Grady and Raudonikis also going to Newtown at the end of the season.
I refer to Roy Masters article of 22 April, 2017 - https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers-fail-to-learn-the-lessons-of-history-20170420-gvoqaw.html
"....In 1979, Wests' semi-final campaign was derailed by whispers three of their best players – John Dorahy, Les Boyd and Ray Brown – would sign with rival clubs. As coach, I recall running laps of Lidcombe Oval before training with the players, only to notice the "big three" fall back behind the group and presumably discuss their futures.
I recall centre Wayne Smith suggesting we have a private fundraiser to retain the players, but it all seemed too difficult for a cash-strapped club to compete financially in a competition without a salary cap. ....."
https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/players-reject-training-return-if-pay-deal-isnt-reached/ab30cf9a-208e-474b-9fe0-deca0fa3d8b1?fbclid=IwAR34O5ph1HVVHCwjJoKxr47vvJGZkxzNQC6tWPoUpewxFJCEsIHQBVf9pqs
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NRL players refuse to return to training on May 4 if pay agreement isn't reached
By Tim Elbra
3 hours ago
NRL players vote against training
NRL players will refuse to return to training next Monday if a pay agreement isn't reached for the revamped season.
Nine's Neil Breen broke the story on Thursday, after team captains spoke on Wednesday night. The impasse focuses primarily on the New Zealand Warriors, who are meant to travel through Australian quarantine barriers to resume their place in the competition.
NRL training was meant to resume on May 4, ahead of the season's planned restart on May 28. Those plans have been thrown into doubt by the players' stance.
"The reason is they do not have a new pay deal with the NRL. The players were promised by the NRL that by yesterday they would receive many things, including all the biosecurity details, all the new rules they had to live by; also, a new pay deal," Breen said on Nine News.
"They were informed by the NRL that wouldn't be able to be given to them for about a week, because while they had agreement with the broadcasters - Nine and Fox Sports - to start the season on May 28, they don't have commercial agreements with the broadcasters. They're toing and froing over how much money they will pay.
"It was then that a delegation from the Warriors, led by Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Blake Green, they told the call, 'Hang on a second, the NRL's not kept up its end of the bargain here. We were supposed to learn by today, they want us to relocate to Australia on Sunday and go into quarantine for two weeks. We're not going to do that, we're not going to travel, because if the deal falls over at a later date, then we'll be stuck in quarantine in Australia with no reason to be there'.
"They were then backed by players from other clubs, led by Cam Smith from the Melbourne Storm. A delegation from the Roosters backed them and they agreed unanimously that until the NRL came through with a pay deal, that they wouldn't train on Monday.
"The players are extremely concerned about the public perception of this move from them, but they have done it in solidarity with their brothers from the Warriors, who do not want to separate from their families and relocate in Australia without the NRL meeting its end of the bargain."
Yet the NRL would first need to agree new commercial deals with Nine and Fox Sports, which would enable calculation of player payments.
Breen said that such agreements would need to be reached by close of business on Friday. He predicted that there might be a one week delay.
The Rugby League Players Association had accepted a 75 per cent pay cut for the remainder of the season in the event that no more games were played. Players are now trying to force a deal for a revised figure, with a 20-round season announced.
They are reportedly looking at a 20 per cent overall reduction on their contracts for this season, meaning a pay cut of more than 50 per cent over the remainder of the campaign.
The NRL will still have reduced income across the board, from its broadcasting deal downwards. It seems unlikely that fans will attend any games this season.
NineSportNRL
NRL players refuse to return to training on May 4 if pay agreement isn't reached
By Tim Elbra
3 hours ago
NRL players vote against training
NRL players will refuse to return to training next Monday if a pay agreement isn't reached for the revamped season.
Nine's Neil Breen broke the story on Thursday, after team captains spoke on Wednesday night. The impasse focuses primarily on the New Zealand Warriors, who are meant to travel through Australian quarantine barriers to resume their place in the competition.
NRL training was meant to resume on May 4, ahead of the season's planned restart on May 28. Those plans have been thrown into doubt by the players' stance.
"The reason is they do not have a new pay deal with the NRL. The players were promised by the NRL that by yesterday they would receive many things, including all the biosecurity details, all the new rules they had to live by; also, a new pay deal," Breen said on Nine News.
"They were informed by the NRL that wouldn't be able to be given to them for about a week, because while they had agreement with the broadcasters - Nine and Fox Sports - to start the season on May 28, they don't have commercial agreements with the broadcasters. They're toing and froing over how much money they will pay.
"It was then that a delegation from the Warriors, led by Roger Tuivasa-Sheck and Blake Green, they told the call, 'Hang on a second, the NRL's not kept up its end of the bargain here. We were supposed to learn by today, they want us to relocate to Australia on Sunday and go into quarantine for two weeks. We're not going to do that, we're not going to travel, because if the deal falls over at a later date, then we'll be stuck in quarantine in Australia with no reason to be there'.
"They were then backed by players from other clubs, led by Cam Smith from the Melbourne Storm. A delegation from the Roosters backed them and they agreed unanimously that until the NRL came through with a pay deal, that they wouldn't train on Monday.
"The players are extremely concerned about the public perception of this move from them, but they have done it in solidarity with their brothers from the Warriors, who do not want to separate from their families and relocate in Australia without the NRL meeting its end of the bargain."
Yet the NRL would first need to agree new commercial deals with Nine and Fox Sports, which would enable calculation of player payments.
Breen said that such agreements would need to be reached by close of business on Friday. He predicted that there might be a one week delay.
The Rugby League Players Association had accepted a 75 per cent pay cut for the remainder of the season in the event that no more games were played. Players are now trying to force a deal for a revised figure, with a 20-round season announced.
They are reportedly looking at a 20 per cent overall reduction on their contracts for this season, meaning a pay cut of more than 50 per cent over the remainder of the campaign.
The NRL will still have reduced income across the board, from its broadcasting deal downwards. It seems unlikely that fans will attend any games this season.
hobbo1
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@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146446) said:
It’s not like they’ll be getting $1500 a fortnight ?
Time to give lower grade players a shot at the NRL and let the current so called pros get jobs at Bunnings
cochise
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@hobbo1 said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146460) said:
I doubt anyone is leaving their family for $1500 a fortnight either.
happy_tiger
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@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146450) said:
Yes you do .....every time
hobbo1
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@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146461) said:
I would
happy_tiger
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@hobbo1 said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146463) said:
Where do I sign up
cochise
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@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146462) said:
Complete rubbish, but the NRL should have this in place. What if the Warriors come over and then the NRL can't get a deal done with 9?
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146465) said:
Exactly mate. There’s too much uncertainty in the world (especially with channel9) for the warriors to fly over here and leave their families without anything definite in place.
What’s really selfish is the fans expecting them to come over not knowing anything just because they’re well paid. They have every right to stay in NZ until they’re satisfied with what’s being offered
Seems like it’s already been sorted and it won’t affect the season anyway. Pointless drama in the end
cochise
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@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146462) said:
I only had to go back 2 days to prove you wrong.
>The players will miss no matches, $50000 for JAC and LM, $10000 for NC with 60% suspended for all players. Cop out!
happy_tiger
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@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146465) said:
Yes ....so this what the Warriors should be arguing ...not player payments
This is pure greed ......
cochise
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@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146468) said:
hobbo1
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@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146464) said:
I’ll send you the link ?
happy_tiger
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@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146469) said:
Which particular one .....the Warriors one ...the warriors and Cammy one .....the Warriors , Cammy and Roosters players one
cochise
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@happy_tiger said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146471) said:
happy_tiger
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@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146469) said:
@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146465) said:
Cool ..the Warriors can choose not to come.....the rest are already here..what's stopping them..
happy_tiger
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@cochise said in [Corona impact on NRL\.\.\.?](/post/1146472) said:
Well I suppose if the NRL weren't dealing with the 4 clowns who broke restrictions and who shouldn't be playing until August they'd have a decision
Blame the tools in your own Union
Again these problems have been created because the NRL drew a line in the sand ....the players stomped all over it and basically gave the NRL the bird ....and the NRL then drew a new line in the sand
