@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.
Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!
The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.
As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!
I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.
Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.
I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!
I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.
Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.
Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo
Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.
We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though
We will still import as it is cheaper!
Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..
That is unlikely to change!
It needs to
It won't though has you would have mass defaults on mortgages. If anything all the stimulus will put massive pressure on inflation and we will end up earning more!
Only 35% of folks have mortgages so I’m told .
How’s your kid / my kids gonna be able to afford a mortgage ..
We earn too much and we pay too much ..
So your plan to fix that is have the majority of people who currently have a mortgage to lose theirs? good plan!
They’ll be 40 -45 year mortgages soon
You’ll be right !
We will end up with a situation where mortgages are designed to be multigenerational lol
Probably lol
Was talking to a financial controller tonight who has specific Accounting and Stockmarket experience,he says we will be surprised at how quick the bounce back will be once we are out of this pandemic
1..people are busting to get out and socialise now,wait for it in about a months time,,
2..the markets will go up as things flatten after the virus..
3..there will be jobs on offer because the unemployed are now more because of the virus,employment will go up..
4.the Aust economy will prosper for a fair while because we have products that O/S countries will demand..
chins up everybody and ride out the storm ...be safe and love and look after each other..its not all doom and gloom YET...
The Govt debt will be the biggest issue
The biggest issue will be reducing the Centrelink payments .....I can see the do gooders causing problems when the Govt tries reducing it
Good point.
A thing that irks me with these Centrelink payments is why were they basically doubled for people who were already unemployed? Especially single people with no dependents? I have absolutely zero issue with people who are unemployed due to losing their jobs in this crisis having access to Centrelink.
But buggered if I know why layabouts who have intentionally been on benefits for years just through sheer laziness get rewarded with their payments escalating. There is absolutely no rhyme or reason to it perhaps other than to flatten out the crime rate. It's rubbish IMO.
How do they differentiate between a layabout and a genuine person in need? All persons in receipt of it who are layabouts are already pretending to be in need.
My question is what about the Disability Support Pension (DSP)? That used to be a little more than Newstart, hence a lot of regulars on Newstart did what they needed to do to get on the DSP. Now I bet you they are all trying to get back on the dole. But what about those with a genuine disability who are now getting paid less than those who are out of work, being penalised for their disability?
