Coronavirus Outbreak

[innsaneink]

Okay
Only side effects so far was sore arm and being tired...jf there is anything else i will probably experince it today sometime

Srill waiting on the side effect where i get a 6 pack tho, heard that is a rare one, fingers crossed 👍

Dan Murphy's gets a quicker result than Fitness First 🍻

 

[nuggetron]

Climate change is a separate issue. One thing that I can't stand about climate science is the bogus science. If they dropped the bogus science it would help their cause. Now every time it rains it's a climate change issue. That is bogus science. I reckon we have to do something about climate change but it's a risk management issue. The earth's climate changes all the time. We just need to ensure we minimize the harm we make.

you mean there were ice ages and melting periods before human intervention? and this cyclic nature is continuing?
just amplified because "fossil fuel is good"

 

[innsaneink]

I have to get tested every 3 days now since new protocols were introduced, got tested Tues arvo and still waiting for results and can't work until I get a neg result
Lab immediately mssged me advising 24/48 hours results back when I gave my details... Will be 48 hours about 4pm today
At least the sun's out and we have a backyard 🌞
I'd go bonkers in a unit with no balcony

 

[nuggetron]

I have to get tested every 3 days now since new protocols were introduced, got tested Tues arvo and still waiting for results and can't work until I get a neg result
Lab immediately mssged me advising 24/48 hours results back when I gave my details... Will be 48 hours about 4pm today
At least the sun's out and we have a backyard 🌞
I'd go bonkers in a unit with no balcony

i thought you were allowed to work as long as you have proof you were tested?
that's what my job told everyone,
get tested every 3 days, come to work pending results

 

[earl]

Gladbags is a flawed and dangerous person and leader. Stubborn to political ideology, arrogant to deflect any criticism and close minded to any policy settings that have "worked" elsewhere. There is clear evidence that a more stirct and stringent lockdown, implemented after just a couple of delta cases surfaced, would have had this under control by now. Evidence?? Try Victoria and SA. She is leading us to hell in a handbasket. But, just like Scummo, she'll blame it all on 'health advice" and try to convince us she's the saviour.

Guess what Gladbags and Scummo?? We're not buying it. You're cooked. Resign before you cause even more pain for the citizens you purport to represent.

can't lock down the eastern suburbs when it all started, it would upset too many people with too much money and power


She had no issues locking us down on the Sydney Northern beaches at xmas (safe liberal area) with a less severe outbreak in summer.She has failed the people of this country/state yet again but you wont read about it in the murdoch media.

My take is that you guys are way too harsh on Gladys. I reckon she is good.

My take is the same as @mike. The delta variant is significantly more contagious and it's getting out. We can't live with lock downs going forward anyway.

There is one way out of this for the world and that is get vaccinated. Those that choose not to get vaccinated get reduced rights. On this basis I can understand protests. I don't think though that we have a choice. We are going to have to limit people's freedoms and rights (the unvaccinated) to protect other peoples freedoms and rights (the vaccinated).

I'm not political. The only people I hate are the loony right and I don't put Gladys in that category.

latest news is that pfizer efficacy drops to 60 odd% after 6 months especially against delta and now a 3rd dose is recommended.
don't think vaccination is the holy bullet, every health professional that is consulted states that vaccination isn't the only part of the answer.
even when the world is 80% vaccinated it won't be enough, there is no chance the world returns to normal in the next decade, the biggest difference between covid and other pandemics is that travel is so much more attainable and affordable, facilitating the virus mutations and continual threat. even if that threat becomes less fatal.

you can't limit people freedoms and rights because they have chosen not to be vaccinated, you can make it difficult for them like they did by restricting/reducing the child care benefits to families of unvaxxed kids, but they can't say you're unvaxxed so you have to live this way.

The data keeps changing and the virus mutates. The data you are referring to is out of Israel. It's not as simple as what you state as well because it still appears to protect you against hospitalization/death at rates above 90%. Interestingly it now appears that it's better to have an 8 week gap between shots.

If every person in the world was vaccinated we would halt the virus but that isn't going to happen.

It appears and this comes from even right wingers that if you are vaccinated you are basically safe. I don't think there is any option but to limit the rights of the unvaccinated and provide rights to the vaccinated. It's happening now too. On principle this to me sounds terrible but this is not an issue in relation to poverty or anything like that in developed countries. People are being offered vaccines and not taking them. If it's a personal choice that is cool but your personal choices have consequences. Get vaccinated or you can't go to the footy or a restaurant or travel or even hold your job. This is being legislated in various countries. People are angry and rightfully so.

You are right in that a high vaccination rate will not be a pancea. You need the whole world vaccinated and I think we will need booster shots to cater for variants going forward.

 

[cochise]

I have to get tested every 3 days now since new protocols were introduced, got tested Tues arvo and still waiting for results and can't work until I get a neg result
Lab immediately mssged me advising 24/48 hours results back when I gave my details... Will be 48 hours about 4pm today
At least the sun's out and we have a backyard 🌞
I'd go bonkers in a unit with no balcony

I got tested on Tuesday as well and had my results on Tuesday night.

 

[jadtiger]

Scamo is out of step with the rest of the developed world in regards to speedy vaccinations and climate change.He is a darling of the murdoch media but continually fails his country

Do you think if Scomo could get more vaccines he would ? Do you think if people just took the AZ vaccine we'd be in the same position we are in now ?

I mean the AZ vaccine is a fantastic vaccine. Do you blame Scomo for people not taking it ? What about all the medical advice about not getting the AZ vaccine ? Do those people get a free ride ?

Climate change is a separate issue. One thing that I can't stand about climate science is the bogus science. If they dropped the bogus science it would help their cause. Now every time it rains it's a climate change issue. That is bogus science. I reckon we have to do something about climate change but it's a risk management issue. The earth's climate changes all the time. We just need to ensure we minimize the harm we make.

I get what you are stating though. The coalition aren't handling these issues well especially climate change. I don't think I'd vote for Morrison again but I'd vote for Gladys.

It was the poor/slow distribution of the vaccines that every state premier was complaining about which is the federals area of responsibility.It is still difficult to get a vaccine appointment where i live with still long lists of people trying to get it (Sydney Northern Beaches)I am due for my second AZ on 11/8 and i am classified as 1b.I know it is far easier in other areas.

 

[earl]

Climate change is a separate issue. One thing that I can't stand about climate science is the bogus science. If they dropped the bogus science it would help their cause. Now every time it rains it's a climate change issue. That is bogus science. I reckon we have to do something about climate change but it's a risk management issue. The earth's climate changes all the time. We just need to ensure we minimize the harm we make.

you mean there were ice ages and melting periods before human intervention? and this cyclic nature is continuing?
just amplified because "fossil fuel is good"

No. It's not black and white. Yep there were ice ages and melting periods prior to human intervention. I also believe the Earth is heating up and we need to do something about it. We have one family car in a family of 5, we eat predominantly vegetarian and our power usage (due to solar power) is minimal compared to the average family of 5.

That doesn't mean we need dodgy science blaming any ecological change on climate science. If it's hot in winter or cool in summer people shout climate change. It's nonsense.

I'm dropping this topic now because it's off topic.

 

[nuggetron]

Gladbags is a flawed and dangerous person and leader. Stubborn to political ideology, arrogant to deflect any criticism and close minded to any policy settings that have "worked" elsewhere. There is clear evidence that a more stirct and stringent lockdown, implemented after just a couple of delta cases surfaced, would have had this under control by now. Evidence?? Try Victoria and SA. She is leading us to hell in a handbasket. But, just like Scummo, she'll blame it all on 'health advice" and try to convince us she's the saviour.

Guess what Gladbags and Scummo?? We're not buying it. You're cooked. Resign before you cause even more pain for the citizens you purport to represent.

can't lock down the eastern suburbs when it all started, it would upset too many people with too much money and power


She had no issues locking us down on the Sydney Northern beaches at xmas (safe liberal area) with a less severe outbreak in summer.She has failed the people of this country/state yet again but you wont read about it in the murdoch media.

My take is that you guys are way too harsh on Gladys. I reckon she is good.

My take is the same as @mike. The delta variant is significantly more contagious and it's getting out. We can't live with lock downs going forward anyway.

There is one way out of this for the world and that is get vaccinated. Those that choose not to get vaccinated get reduced rights. On this basis I can understand protests. I don't think though that we have a choice. We are going to have to limit people's freedoms and rights (the unvaccinated) to protect other peoples freedoms and rights (the vaccinated).

I'm not political. The only people I hate are the loony right and I don't put Gladys in that category.

latest news is that pfizer efficacy drops to 60 odd% after 6 months especially against delta and now a 3rd dose is recommended.
don't think vaccination is the holy bullet, every health professional that is consulted states that vaccination isn't the only part of the answer.
even when the world is 80% vaccinated it won't be enough, there is no chance the world returns to normal in the next decade, the biggest difference between covid and other pandemics is that travel is so much more attainable and affordable, facilitating the virus mutations and continual threat. even if that threat becomes less fatal.

you can't limit people freedoms and rights because they have chosen not to be vaccinated, you can make it difficult for them like they did by restricting/reducing the child care benefits to families of unvaxxed kids, but they can't say you're unvaxxed so you have to live this way.

The data keeps changing and the virus mutates. The data you are referring to is out of Israel. It's not as simple as what you state as well because it still appears to protect you against hospitalization/death at rates above 90%. Interestingly it now appears that it's better to have an 8 week gap between shots.

If every person in the world was vaccinated we would halt the virus but that isn't going to happen.

It appears and this comes from even right wingers that if you are vaccinated you are basically safe. I don't think there is any option but to limit the rights of the unvaccinated and provide rights to the vaccinated. It's happening now too. On principle this to me sounds terrible but this is not an issue in relation to poverty or anything like that in developed countries. People are being offered vaccines and not taking them. If it's a personal choice that is cool but your personal choices have consequences. Get vaccinated or you can't go to the footy or a restaurant or travel or even hold your job. This is being legislated in various countries. People are angry and rightfully so.

You are right in that a high vaccination rate will not be a pancea. You need the whole world vaccinated and I think we will need booster shots to cater for variants going forward.

irregardless of the hospitalisation/fatality rate. if the vaccine has an efficacy of 64% after 6 months that's an increase chance of contracting covid, and an increased chance of it continuing to mutate and survive in a community

 

[TillLindemann]

The earth’s climate changes all the time.

It changes over timescales of thousands and millions of years.

Short of cataclysmic events like supervolcanoes or asteroid impacts, it does not change by degrees over decades. Species do not evolve in mere decades, and the path we are on is catastrophic.

Complex, interdependent ecological systems are only as strong as their weakest link.

 

[nuggetron]

Climate change is a separate issue. One thing that I can't stand about climate science is the bogus science. If they dropped the bogus science it would help their cause. Now every time it rains it's a climate change issue. That is bogus science. I reckon we have to do something about climate change but it's a risk management issue. The earth's climate changes all the time. We just need to ensure we minimize the harm we make.

you mean there were ice ages and melting periods before human intervention? and this cyclic nature is continuing?
just amplified because "fossil fuel is good"

No. It's not black and white. Yep there were ice ages and melting periods prior to human intervention. I also believe the Earth is heating up and we need to do something about it. We have one family car in a family of 5, we eat predominantly vegetarian and our power usage (due to solar power) is minimal compared to the average family of 5.

That doesn't mean we need dodgy science blaming any ecological change on climate science. If it's hot in winter or cool in summer people shout climate change. It's nonsense.

I'm dropping this topic now because it's off topic.

i'm on your side on this one, missus is full vegan and i eat meat once a week if i'm lucky, got solar and fuel efficient cars and waiting for electric vehicles to be more affordable
it is real but they throw their hands up saying this is the direct result of climate change for the slightest unusual weather event

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Okay
Only side effects so far was sore arm and being tired...jf there is anything else i will probably experince it today sometime

Srill waiting on the side effect where i get a 6 pack tho, heard that is a rare one, fingers crossed ?

Dan Murphy's gets a quicker result than Fitness First ?

100%, why settle for a six pack when you can have a keg?

 

[cochise]

239 cases

 

[jadtiger]

239 cases

That is horrendous

 

[Geo]

239 cases

238 locally acquired..2 deaths..

We are screwed

 

[pawsandclaws1]

239 cases


That is horrendous

Night curfews in those LGAs of conern is required. Citizens still not doing the right thing.

 

[cochise]

239 cases


That is horrendous

Night curfews in those LGAs of conern is required. Citizens still not doing the right thing.

Will night curfew make a difference?

 

[TillLindemann]

Not looking good. At least some of these new infections are probably the result of that protest you would think, as well as just people generally not staying home.

I's not looking good anywhere really, global infections and deaths are shooting up again all over the globe, not least in Southeast Asia. Even in China they are struggling to contain a new outbreak.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

@hobbo1 blow the bridge on the way this arvo please mate? Ta...

 

[hobbo1]

I have to get tested every 3 days now since new protocols were introduced, got tested Tues arvo and still waiting for results and can't work until I get a neg result
Lab immediately mssged me advising 24/48 hours results back when I gave my details... Will be 48 hours about 4pm today
At least the sun's out and we have a backyard ?
I'd go bonkers in a unit with no balcony

I got tested on Tuesday as well and had my results on Tuesday night.

Yeah but your a mod