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@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517757) said:
Your opinion that its mostly BS…you should take it up with the Florida University…or do they just publish stuff for the sake of it…

They did explain that in the article.
 
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517759) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517750) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517659) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517644) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517637) said:
I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

Kerry Chant believes???...I wonder if she believes that a group of parents sent 6 face masks to the University of Florida for analysis after the children had to wear them all day at school....the findings were that they found 11 dangerous pathogens in the masks...
1..streptococuss pneumonia....
2..Myobacterium tuberculosis...
3..meningitis septsis...
4..kerstitis...
5..Acinotobar baumavni (bloodstream infections)
6..UTIs ---resistent to antibiotics...
7..Escherichia...food poisoning...
8..Borrelia burgdofia....causes Lyme disease..
9..Dyptheria...
10..Legionella pneumophilia....causes legionaires disease..
11..Staph...
Half of the masks were contaminated with one or more strains of pneumonia causing bacteria...One third were contaminated with dangerous antibiotic resistant bacterial pathogens....
Florida University findings on behalf of concerned parents after children suddenly became ill after having to wear masks all day at school...
Kerry Chant is a health advisor....she should know the risks of wearing masks for prolonged periods,also in hospitals it is recommended that staff change masks every 20 mins....
whats good for some obviously isnt for others....

This is just whacko land...
This has nothing to do with chant

ok....
 
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517755) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517753) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517752) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517751) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517750) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517659) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517644) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517637) said:
I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

Kerry Chant believes???...I wonder if she believes that a group of parents sent 6 face masks to the University of Florida for analysis after the children had to wear them all day at school....the findings were that they found 11 dangerous pathogens in the masks...
1..streptococuss pneumonia....
2..Myobacterium tuberculosis...
3..meningitis septsis...
4..kerstitis...
5..Acinotobar baumavni (bloodstream infections)
6..UTIs ---resistent to antibiotics...
7..Escherichia...food poisoning...
8..Borrelia burgdofia....causes Lyme disease..
9..Dyptheria...
10..Legionella pneumophilia....causes legionaires disease..
11..Staph...
Half of the masks were contaminated with one or more strains of pneumonia causing bacteria...One third were contaminated with dangerous antibiotic resistant bacterial pathogens....
Florida University findings on behalf of concerned parents after children suddenly became ill after having to wear masks all day at school...
Kerry Chant is a health advisor....she should know the risks of wearing masks for prolonged periods,also in hospitals it is recommended that staff change masks every 20 mins....
whats good for some obviously isnt for others....

Did they get said masks out of the sewer?

Doesnt the Florida University findings suit your narrative..
wake up and understand that health advisors as govt look after their own interests first...you and I are a fair way second....

Did you read this on the internet?

Well I didnt read it on MSM they hide info like this....

Make an appointment with a respected professor dude, you won’t be funding some big tech company with all those clicks.
 
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517610) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517575) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517566) said:
With NSW Health advising Newcastle residents to seriously consider postponing Christmas gatherings, this is a pretty serious situation. Are they to be postponed until everyone has a booster? Compounding the situation is the easing of restrictions in NSW. The message is not clear!

Also, as only double vaccinated clients were allowed into the nightclub in Newcastle where the even occurred, being vaccinated has not stopped infection or transmission it seems.

Some people seem to think that it is simply "party time", yet one of those that wants to party at the expense of the community decided that a directive to isolate shouldn't hamper their desires.

A very selfish action to then go to possibly the most transmissive environment of a nightclub and expose many hundreds to the virus, who in turn have since exposed many more vulnerable people to it.

Such attitude is disgusting.

The $10K fine is a joke, should be jail time for disregarding the isolation directive.

Saying you didn't know that you were Covid positive at the time just doesn't cut it.

Just a totally selfish and irresponsible act.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4EwCFqiJag

This is fascinating. It's a vaccinologist from South Africa stating that this variant peaks really quickly. It's already going down in some provinces. He is also stating that this variant may be just as virulent as previous variants. The difference is immunity from vaccination and/or contracting the virus. So basically we've vaccinated our way out of severe disease. I hope he is right because it's good news.

He is stating don't panic with the increased case numbers so long as hospital numbers stay reasonable.
 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10315989/Taylor-Swift-Repeat-Red-Party-Sydney-superspreader-Covid-alert.html

Some 600 people have been exposed to Covid after Taylor Swift listening event

This vaccine ausveis thing is extremely confusing, I thought it was intended to keep out the infidels,
and not to give dvaxxed a licence to super spread? But, we learn every day!
 
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517749) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517747) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517742) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517739) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517736) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517728) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517701) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517607) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517593) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517430) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517426) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517396) said:
@paul-wright said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517386) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517304) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517300) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517298) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517295) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517291) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517284) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517282) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517277) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517271) said:
Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

Research online or talk to someone on the front line. I have access to both. But nar the front line personnel have to be corrupt right?

Swag,I will tell you that 90% of the hierarchy in this country and around the world are corrupt,if you research the right websites like American frontline doctors for eg,,they have great info...


TT you say that you do your research and that is good but you need to check the credibility of websites that you do your research on.American frontline doctors are an extreme right wing political group that have little credibility just agendas and covid misinformation is one of them .They are nothing like our doctors groups in Australia or other civilised countries and they do not speak for the vast majority of the USA medical profession.
You are getting your information from the worst possible websites.Take care TT we all care about you

Appreciate your concern and well wishes PW....as many a scholar has always said '"you will never know answers unless you ask questions""...researching can take you to many different conclusions,some false some true and a great deal in between...
the main thing we should all care about is people,men ,women,boys and girls of all race,colour and creed...
the one big thing that has come out of this situation we are in atm is the hardship endured on many,many good people who just want to earn a living,feed their families,pay bills and enjoy life to the fullest..
People as human beings are mostly caring,kind and Godly people,there is the element of some humans that only want for themselves,this minority are the ones who dont care as we do,these are the ones that should be overcome by the good salt of the earth people that are in the majority...
That brings me to the point of the discussions we have within this thread,Earl has his opinion,you have yours and others have theirs...God only knows what type of world we would have if we were all exactly the same..
I will keep doing my research to find answers to MY questions.I have the freedom to do that as others do...
At the end of this horrible phase we are going through and only then will we all know how it ends up,who is right and who is wrong doesnt matter until we get out of this with as many lives safe and uninjured so life can go on as it was meant to,loving,peaceful,caring people raising families and enjoying friends company ..
CARING FOR OTHERS IS A GREATER GIFT THAN SELF PRESERVATION IN DIRE TIMES....
GOD bless all ......Im going ok and keep getting up each day helping others when I can....Im not in a straight jacket just yet....cheers brothers and sisters....

Keep researching mate, but go out and talk to scientists, doctors. Nurses, check out chicks. People working in hospitality and hospitals. Experts in their field. The internet is just a cess pit.

A lot of these people,scientists,doctors,hospital workers etc have sites on the internet....it cant all be a cesspool...

The ones I know are too busy working to maintain websites.

A lot worked during the height of the pandemic online re consulting and also gave much advice on their WEBSITES...there is quite a bit of info from international doctors who wanted to give advice to the needy...

Just be mindful anyone can buy a web address and claim to have expertise

Kind of like any unhealthy food producer can BUY a ‘heart tick’ ❤️✅ of health from the government to mislead consumers into eating crap that does the opposite to what the ✅ implies??

Aus/NZL Food companies are bound by a set of standards, whether those standards are well policed is probably up for debate. Any nut job can start a website, no standards or verification at all.

Missing the point, again.

What did you change it to? Lost me.

You’re committed to highlighting flaws in sources that oppose your (government’s) narrative, which may well be relevant, but you refuse to accept and deflect from any reference to the FACT that your source (again..government) is SYSTEMATICALLY CORRUPT.
Seriously it’s like watching a teenager refuse to admit fault. Man up dude, it’s ugly.

All I said was (and not to you), don’t research on the internet and consider it facts. Get out and talk to experts who actually do the work. You put the rest of it together. As for govt, we have two poor options, can’t change what you can’t change.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t really want to change something. Luckily there’s people amongst us who know how to stand up to affect change.
Stand aside and leave the work to those who are capable.
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517688) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517674) said:
@papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517670) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517668) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517664) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517663) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517662) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517661) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517659) said:
@shiretiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517644) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517637) said:
I was up at our local Liquorland and the young lady behind the counter thanked me for wearing a mask. She was wearing one as well. All other customers were not. Some of our residents have lost all sense of proportion. A simple face mask can protect others.

Do you have the virus? Showing symptoms? If not, what did wearing the mask do for her?

If she was so fearful, stay home. Simples.

If you are so fearful, stay at home. Simples.

If you are double vaxxed and it does what is promised, why the fear? Trust the Science

Kerry Chant appears to believe the wearing of a mask is a simple but effective means of reducing transmission. I am more than willing to comply with her advice and wear a mask.

As for the shopkeeper, she obviously appreciated wearing of a mask.

That may be so, if you are infected. Are you a vaxxed COVID Mary?

Yes I am double vaccinated. Being double vaccinated does not prevent the acquiring of the disease nor does it prevent transmission. The washing of hands, distancing and the wearing of masks are simple but effective means of reducing the risk of transmission.

I don't want to see businesses destroyed or lives ruined when transmission can be reduced. That is all.

You are truly a Saint amongst us. With people like you on our side, COVID doesn't stand a chance.

There is nothing more heartbreaking than lives ruined via the destruction of businesses or poor health outcomes.

Liquorland have deep pockets and I havent seen too many pensioners with co-morbidities serving customers there Champ. Both the business and the whisp of a lass behind the counter will be fine.

What happens when whisp of a lass goes home to whisp of a grandma after work?

In all likelyhood, nothing. Paws isnt infected. A Saint like himself wouldnt go out if he was showing symptoms.

I have a son with an underlying health condition. Despite having received his booster, the threat of bringing Covid home to him is very real. A few precautions can reduce that risk.


spot on.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517781) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4EwCFqiJag

This is fascinating. It's a vaccinologist from South Africa stating that this variant peaks really quickly. It's already going down in some provinces. He is also stating that this variant may be just as virulent as previous variants. The difference is immunity from vaccination and/or contracting the virus. So basically we've vaccinated our way out of severe disease. I hope he is right because it's good news.

He is stating don't panic with the increased case numbers so long as hospital numbers stay reasonable.

You’re unbelievable Earl.
1st of all now you’re resorting to YouTube which is fun given how scathing you’ve been on it prior to now 😂.
2nd’ly your saying that a SA immunologist reckons they’ve vaccinated their way to victory….🤔
What’s the vaccination rate in SA Earl?
 
I challenge you so called honest, science advocates (that’s you Earl.. & co) to apply yourselves to listen to a world renowned doctor and academic at the top of the ‘accepted science’ world give his experience and knowledge of this pandemic to date.
I wonder how many of you are truly capable of unbiased scrutiny of your position on this.?

https://youtu.be/5EZmRO-domk
 
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517754) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517738) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517723) said:
@paul-wright said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517709) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517701) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517607) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517593) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517430) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517426) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517396) said:
@paul-wright said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517386) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517304) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517300) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517298) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517295) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517291) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517284) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517282) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517277) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517271) said:
Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

Research online or talk to someone on the front line. I have access to both. But nar the front line personnel have to be corrupt right?

Swag,I will tell you that 90% of the hierarchy in this country and around the world are corrupt,if you research the right websites like American frontline doctors for eg,,they have great info...


TT you say that you do your research and that is good but you need to check the credibility of websites that you do your research on.American frontline doctors are an extreme right wing political group that have little credibility just agendas and covid misinformation is one of them .They are nothing like our doctors groups in Australia or other civilised countries and they do not speak for the vast majority of the USA medical profession.
You are getting your information from the worst possible websites.Take care TT we all care about you

Appreciate your concern and well wishes PW....as many a scholar has always said '"you will never know answers unless you ask questions""...researching can take you to many different conclusions,some false some true and a great deal in between...
the main thing we should all care about is people,men ,women,boys and girls of all race,colour and creed...
the one big thing that has come out of this situation we are in atm is the hardship endured on many,many good people who just want to earn a living,feed their families,pay bills and enjoy life to the fullest..
People as human beings are mostly caring,kind and Godly people,there is the element of some humans that only want for themselves,this minority are the ones who dont care as we do,these are the ones that should be overcome by the good salt of the earth people that are in the majority...
That brings me to the point of the discussions we have within this thread,Earl has his opinion,you have yours and others have theirs...God only knows what type of world we would have if we were all exactly the same..
I will keep doing my research to find answers to MY questions.I have the freedom to do that as others do...
At the end of this horrible phase we are going through and only then will we all know how it ends up,who is right and who is wrong doesnt matter until we get out of this with as many lives safe and uninjured so life can go on as it was meant to,loving,peaceful,caring people raising families and enjoying friends company ..
CARING FOR OTHERS IS A GREATER GIFT THAN SELF PRESERVATION IN DIRE TIMES....
GOD bless all ......Im going ok and keep getting up each day helping others when I can....Im not in a straight jacket just yet....cheers brothers and sisters....

Keep researching mate, but go out and talk to scientists, doctors. Nurses, check out chicks. People working in hospitality and hospitals. Experts in their field. The internet is just a cess pit.

A lot of these people,scientists,doctors,hospital workers etc have sites on the internet....it cant all be a cesspool...

The ones I know are too busy working to maintain websites.

A lot worked during the height of the pandemic online re consulting and also gave much advice on their WEBSITES...there is quite a bit of info from international doctors who wanted to give advice to the needy...

Just be mindful anyone can buy a web address and claim to have expertise


Also in the USA you can 'buy" doctors degrees from some dodgy organizations

Hahaha ?
You crack me up Paul, you really do.
Thanks buddy

https://www.verifiabledegree.com/

That shut the dickhead up

You idiots really are oblivious aren’t you ?
 
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517754) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517738) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517723) said:
@paul-wright said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517709) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517701) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517607) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517593) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517430) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517426) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517396) said:
@paul-wright said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517386) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517304) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517300) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517298) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517295) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517291) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517284) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517282) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517277) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517271) said:
Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

Research online or talk to someone on the front line. I have access to both. But nar the front line personnel have to be corrupt right?

Swag,I will tell you that 90% of the hierarchy in this country and around the world are corrupt,if you research the right websites like American frontline doctors for eg,,they have great info...


TT you say that you do your research and that is good but you need to check the credibility of websites that you do your research on.American frontline doctors are an extreme right wing political group that have little credibility just agendas and covid misinformation is one of them .They are nothing like our doctors groups in Australia or other civilised countries and they do not speak for the vast majority of the USA medical profession.
You are getting your information from the worst possible websites.Take care TT we all care about you

Appreciate your concern and well wishes PW....as many a scholar has always said '"you will never know answers unless you ask questions""...researching can take you to many different conclusions,some false some true and a great deal in between...
the main thing we should all care about is people,men ,women,boys and girls of all race,colour and creed...
the one big thing that has come out of this situation we are in atm is the hardship endured on many,many good people who just want to earn a living,feed their families,pay bills and enjoy life to the fullest..
People as human beings are mostly caring,kind and Godly people,there is the element of some humans that only want for themselves,this minority are the ones who dont care as we do,these are the ones that should be overcome by the good salt of the earth people that are in the majority...
That brings me to the point of the discussions we have within this thread,Earl has his opinion,you have yours and others have theirs...God only knows what type of world we would have if we were all exactly the same..
I will keep doing my research to find answers to MY questions.I have the freedom to do that as others do...
At the end of this horrible phase we are going through and only then will we all know how it ends up,who is right and who is wrong doesnt matter until we get out of this with as many lives safe and uninjured so life can go on as it was meant to,loving,peaceful,caring people raising families and enjoying friends company ..
CARING FOR OTHERS IS A GREATER GIFT THAN SELF PRESERVATION IN DIRE TIMES....
GOD bless all ......Im going ok and keep getting up each day helping others when I can....Im not in a straight jacket just yet....cheers brothers and sisters....

Keep researching mate, but go out and talk to scientists, doctors. Nurses, check out chicks. People working in hospitality and hospitals. Experts in their field. The internet is just a cess pit.

A lot of these people,scientists,doctors,hospital workers etc have sites on the internet....it cant all be a cesspool...

The ones I know are too busy working to maintain websites.

A lot worked during the height of the pandemic online re consulting and also gave much advice on their WEBSITES...there is quite a bit of info from international doctors who wanted to give advice to the needy...

Just be mindful anyone can buy a web address and claim to have expertise


Also in the USA you can 'buy" doctors degrees from some dodgy organizations

Hahaha ?
You crack me up Paul, you really do.
Thanks buddy

https://www.verifiabledegree.com/

That shut the dickhead up

Insane you’re name is gold ?
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517787) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517749) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517747) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517742) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517739) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517736) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517728) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517701) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517607) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517593) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517430) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517426) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517396) said:
@paul-wright said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517386) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517304) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517300) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517298) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517295) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517291) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517284) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517282) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517277) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517271) said:
Im not worried one bit about this flu like virus

I hope you are right. I'm telling my wife that this is what it now appears to be like and we just need to relax. The data is backing this assessment up right now but there has to be a massive risk and it's a risk in relation to people's lives.

BUT EARL it appears it is no greater threat than the seasonal flu we get and have got for hundreds of years,its a play by big pharma to make huge dollars...
look at it this way..since this scamdemic has appeared.
big pharma has made billions of dollars,GATES,FAUCCI ETC who are the main stakeholders have also pumped millions in to media,have shares in the hand sanitisers,have shares in the PCR testing equiptment and Gates is the MAJOR DONOR to the WHO....join the dots mate...

So all the talk about the majority in hospitals being Unvaxxed is a myth?

Absolutely ....the vaxxed are in the hospitals with adverse reactions....dont forget what came out of the Newcastle nightclub....all fully vaxxed staff and patrons..
Also the cruise ship 3200 people all staff and customers fully vaxxed,18/20 covid cases...NO UNVAXXED PEOPLE WERE ALLOWED IN......

You must know someone from inside the front linewith all this undisputed information you are getting.

I get hammered on here all the time because I research what I find from official websites...its not hard if you can be on a footy forum,you can research heaps online mate..

Research online or talk to someone on the front line. I have access to both. But nar the front line personnel have to be corrupt right?

Swag,I will tell you that 90% of the hierarchy in this country and around the world are corrupt,if you research the right websites like American frontline doctors for eg,,they have great info...


TT you say that you do your research and that is good but you need to check the credibility of websites that you do your research on.American frontline doctors are an extreme right wing political group that have little credibility just agendas and covid misinformation is one of them .They are nothing like our doctors groups in Australia or other civilised countries and they do not speak for the vast majority of the USA medical profession.
You are getting your information from the worst possible websites.Take care TT we all care about you

Appreciate your concern and well wishes PW....as many a scholar has always said '"you will never know answers unless you ask questions""...researching can take you to many different conclusions,some false some true and a great deal in between...
the main thing we should all care about is people,men ,women,boys and girls of all race,colour and creed...
the one big thing that has come out of this situation we are in atm is the hardship endured on many,many good people who just want to earn a living,feed their families,pay bills and enjoy life to the fullest..
People as human beings are mostly caring,kind and Godly people,there is the element of some humans that only want for themselves,this minority are the ones who dont care as we do,these are the ones that should be overcome by the good salt of the earth people that are in the majority...
That brings me to the point of the discussions we have within this thread,Earl has his opinion,you have yours and others have theirs...God only knows what type of world we would have if we were all exactly the same..
I will keep doing my research to find answers to MY questions.I have the freedom to do that as others do...
At the end of this horrible phase we are going through and only then will we all know how it ends up,who is right and who is wrong doesnt matter until we get out of this with as many lives safe and uninjured so life can go on as it was meant to,loving,peaceful,caring people raising families and enjoying friends company ..
CARING FOR OTHERS IS A GREATER GIFT THAN SELF PRESERVATION IN DIRE TIMES....
GOD bless all ......Im going ok and keep getting up each day helping others when I can....Im not in a straight jacket just yet....cheers brothers and sisters....

Keep researching mate, but go out and talk to scientists, doctors. Nurses, check out chicks. People working in hospitality and hospitals. Experts in their field. The internet is just a cess pit.

A lot of these people,scientists,doctors,hospital workers etc have sites on the internet....it cant all be a cesspool...

The ones I know are too busy working to maintain websites.

A lot worked during the height of the pandemic online re consulting and also gave much advice on their WEBSITES...there is quite a bit of info from international doctors who wanted to give advice to the needy...

Just be mindful anyone can buy a web address and claim to have expertise

Kind of like any unhealthy food producer can BUY a ‘heart tick’ ❤️✅ of health from the government to mislead consumers into eating crap that does the opposite to what the ✅ implies??

Aus/NZL Food companies are bound by a set of standards, whether those standards are well policed is probably up for debate. Any nut job can start a website, no standards or verification at all.

Missing the point, again.

What did you change it to? Lost me.

You’re committed to highlighting flaws in sources that oppose your (government’s) narrative, which may well be relevant, but you refuse to accept and deflect from any reference to the FACT that your source (again..government) is SYSTEMATICALLY CORRUPT.
Seriously it’s like watching a teenager refuse to admit fault. Man up dude, it’s ugly.

All I said was (and not to you), don’t research on the internet and consider it facts. Get out and talk to experts who actually do the work. You put the rest of it together. As for govt, we have two poor options, can’t change what you can’t change.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t really want to change something. Luckily there’s people amongst us who know how to stand up to affect change.
Stand aside and leave the work to those who are capable.

Spamming one Internet forum at a time.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517781) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4EwCFqiJag

He is stating don't panic with the increased case numbers so long as hospital numbers stay reasonable.

This.
Mortality rate aside, the key number that matters is ICU numbers. Out of the 8000+ cases for NSW in Dec only an AVG of 25 people have remained in ICU. This has come down significantly over the past few months where we had over 300 in ICU in Sept.
I wonder what's changed in the last few months???
 
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517548) said:
@aj1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517505) said:
@leichhardtjunior said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517489) said:
@aj1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517356) said:
If you have any proof regarding your point please provide that information.

They don't. Happy to push their outlandish statements without backing it up by citing credible people or entities. Hopefully they don't live to regret their naivety.

Pretty sure Anthony Faucci is your poster boy for credible science isn’t he?
Quote: There is NO DIFFERENCE found in the nasal viral loads of the vaccinated and un vaccinated.
YOU PEOPLE ARE IN DENIAL
It’s getting embarrassing

Yes, embarassing for some on here indeed...

Notice you completely avoided the point…
Again.
Good boy.

There was a point?
I came across this earlier, it might help with your research:
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B07PMCNMVP/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_1CPP0AB9R09FXG51DX1W?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
 
@aj1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517804) said:
I wonder what’s changed in the last few months???

The vaccine saved us with Delta. That guy is stating it's going to save us now.
 
@leichhardtjunior what is your stance on all of this? Are you of the believe Covid is a hoax? Do you believe it has been blown out of proportion? Do believe the restrictions have been too much? I am interested to hear you articulate your thoughts on the matter. no need to reference anything, just explain what you feel.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517812) said:
@aj1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517804) said:
I wonder what’s changed in the last few months???

The vaccine saved us with Delta. That guy is stating it's going to save us now.

It sure did. Yet some people will argue otherwise. Hopefully Omicron will become the dominate strain, remains mild and eradicates other strains.
The 5-11 year old vaccine will be available soon, will be interesting to see the take up numbers.
 
@chicken_faced_killa said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1517813) said:
@leichhardtjunior what is your stance on all of this? Are you of the believe Covid is a hoax? Do you believe it has been blown out of proportion? Do believe the restrictions have been too much? I am interested to hear you articulate your thoughts on the matter. no need to reference anything, just explain what you feel.

He's a troll... Nothing more
 
So my question is how do we get out of this never ending circle, because unless these companies come up with vaccine that kills this virus ( and why would they do that there making millions) it is never going to end . We are so worried about the unvaccinated getting the virus and taking up hospital beds that the rest of us will be denied our freedom in many ways . I feel so sorry for my kids and grandkids that they may never live the life fee that we had before this virus.
 
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