Coronavirus Outbreak

[happy_tiger]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo

Pommy!!!

They'll be extinct at this rate ....Yanks will be in the same boat

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

 

[cochise]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo

Pommy!!!

They'll be extinct at this rate ....Yanks will be in the same boat

The Throne will be mine ..
You can be my butler ( Jeeves)

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..

 

[cochise]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..

That is unlikely to change!

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..

That is unlikely to change!

It needs to

 

[happy_tiger]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo

Pommy!!!

They'll be extinct at this rate ....Yanks will be in the same boat

The Throne will be mine ..
You can be my butler ( Jeeves)

Que ...Manuel ...Si Mr Hobbo

 

[cochise]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..

That is unlikely to change!

It needs to

It won't though has you would have mass defaults on mortgages. If anything all the stimulus will put massive pressure on inflation and we will end up earning more!

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..

That is unlikely to change!

It needs to

It won't though has you would have mass defaults on mortgages. If anything all the stimulus will put massive pressure on inflation and we will end up earning more!

Only 35% of folks have mortgages so I’m told .
How’s your kid / my kids gonna be able to afford a mortgage ..
We earn too much and we pay too much ..

 

[Cairnstigers]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

Bring Holden back
The U.S. can keep their crapy fords

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

Bring Holden back
The U.S. can keep their crapy fords

You bought a Cruz didn’t you !
Or a Captiva ?

I’m Nissan man but give me Ford over Holden any day !

 

[Cairnstigers]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..

That is unlikely to change!

It needs to

It won't though has you would have mass defaults on mortgages. If anything all the stimulus will put massive pressure on inflation and we will end up earning more!

Only 35% of folks have mortgages so I’m told .
How’s your kid / my kids gonna be able to afford a mortgage ..
We earn too much and we pay too much ..

They will put you into a retirement Village and take over your home
Problem solved

 

[Tiger5150]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

I understand what you are saying, but dont understand how the COVID crisis makes that happen? There is no impediment to freight or imports and our economy will be depressed with zero capital available for start ups. not sure why you think this would be a likely result of the crisis.

Im with you that it would be a good thing, but cant see how its likely.

 

[Cairnstigers]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

Bring Holden back
The U.S. can keep their crapy fords

You bought a Cruz didn’t you !
Or a Captiva ?

I’m Nissan man but give me Ford over Holden any day !

Colorado Ltz

 

[Tiger5150]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..

That is unlikely to change!

It needs to

It won't though has you would have mass defaults on mortgages. If anything all the stimulus will put massive pressure on inflation and we will end up earning more!

Only 35% of folks have mortgages so I’m told .
How’s your kid / my kids gonna be able to afford a mortgage ..
We earn too much and we pay too much ..

Foreign investors are currently snapping up Aussie properties at bargain prices (mostly Chinese ironically). This isnt going to make housing more affordable in Aus, probably less.

 

[cochise]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..

That is unlikely to change!

It needs to

It won't though has you would have mass defaults on mortgages. If anything all the stimulus will put massive pressure on inflation and we will end up earning more!

Only 35% of folks have mortgages so I’m told .
How’s your kid / my kids gonna be able to afford a mortgage ..
We earn too much and we pay too much ..

So your plan to fix that is have the majority of people who currently have a mortgage to lose theirs? good plan!

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

Bring Holden back
The U.S. can keep their crapy fords

You bought a Cruz didn’t you !
Or a Captiva ?

I’m Nissan man but give me Ford over Holden any day !

Colorado Ltz

?

 

[hobbo1]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

We will still import as it is cheaper!

Not necessarily..
I think we all earn too much here ..

That is unlikely to change!

It needs to

It won't though has you would have mass defaults on mortgages. If anything all the stimulus will put massive pressure on inflation and we will end up earning more!

Only 35% of folks have mortgages so I’m told .
How’s your kid / my kids gonna be able to afford a mortgage ..
We earn too much and we pay too much ..

So your plan to fix that is have the majority of people who currently have a mortgage to lose theirs? good plan!

They’ll be 40 -45 year mortgages soon
You’ll be right !

 

[Cairnstigers]

We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Closing our borders for years would be great IMO, Australia needs to put a handbrake on immigration for a bit IMO. Cities are straining as it is, a forced go-slow would be a benefit more than a hinderence.

Aussie manufacturing would pick up and there’s no better holiday destination like our own backyard imo


Why would it impact Aussie manufacturing? Freight isnt affected.

We wouldn’t have to import from OS
We could create more jobs in our own backyard..
Still need to import cars and electronic goods though

Bring Holden back
The U.S. can keep their crapy fords

You bought a Cruz didn’t you !
Or a Captiva ?

I’m Nissan man but give me Ford over Holden any day !

Colorado Ltz

?

Well I also have a 2016 Nissan Navara STX
But the Colorado is 10 times better looking and to Drive