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@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139333) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139304) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!

No one in NSW Health is taking responsibility for this stuff up. Therefore it is likely to happen again with the same dire consequences. Those people I mentioned must go.

Yeah I'm not sure who is doing more handwashing , NSW Health or the poor buggers still stuck on the cruise ships

I’d jump overboard and risk the sharks ..
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139336) said:
Apparently a federal ministers in laws were on the Ruby Princess, along with a number of Hillsong members.

That boat should be sunk offshore and turned into an artificial reef
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139336) said:
Apparently a federal ministers in laws were on the Ruby Princess, along with a number of Hillsong members.

Very glad I wasn’t on that cruise
 
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139339) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139336) said:
Apparently a federal ministers in laws were on the Ruby Princess, along with a number of Hillsong members.

Very glad I wasn’t on that cruise

Hopefully a journalist gets on to it. If someone called in a favour to get his in-laws infected ship disembarked no questions asked they should swing from the highest branch.
 
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139341) said:
@GNR4LIFE said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139339) said:
@Cultured_Bogan said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139336) said:
Apparently a federal ministers in laws were on the Ruby Princess, along with a number of Hillsong members.

Very glad I wasn’t on that cruise

Hopefully a journalist gets on to it. If someone called in a favour to get his in-laws of an infected ship they should swing from the highest branch.

Absolutely they should
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139344) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

It’s encouraging so far. Everyone just needs to keep practicing good hygiene and social distancing.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139344) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!
 
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@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139347) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139344) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139349) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139347) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139344) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

Or until a vaccine is developed. Even without a vaccine I am hopeful we can eradicate the virus in Australia (maybe wishful thinking on my part) and then everyone that enters Australia has to go into two/three week enforced quarantine.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139349) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139347) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139344) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

With your graphs ..which I love ...I'm guessing NSW is tracking the highest
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139349) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139347) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139344) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

I think we could be going in and out of these sort of restricted scenarios each time this sticks its head up and numbers start to rise. I think it will be hard to eradicate it completely so I think we will be in and out this until there is an immunity built up, either through vaccine or over time!
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139352) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139349) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139347) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139344) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

With your graphs ..which I love ...I'm guessing NSW is tracking the highest


I havent specifically been tracking based on states but NSW have 2493 of the 5540 national cases.
 
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139357) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139352) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139349) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139347) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139344) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

With your graphs ..which I love ...I'm guessing NSW is tracking the highest


I havent specifically been tracking based on states but NSW have 2493 of the 5540 national cases.

Was meaning as a % as in the 1.06
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

Personal responsibility is the primary issue. No takers for the cruise, no problem. It is easy to blame the Government when your own poor decision making is the culprit.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139334) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139333) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139304) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!

No one in NSW Health is taking responsibility for this stuff up. Therefore it is likely to happen again with the same dire consequences. Those people I mentioned must go.

Yeah I'm not sure who is doing more handwashing , NSW Health or the poor buggers still stuck on the cruise ships

I’d jump overboard and risk the sharks ..

Hobbo you would land on the deck below
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139361) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139357) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139352) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139349) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139347) said:
@Tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139344) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139303) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139302) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139294) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139278) said:
We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!


I could be totally wrong, but I actually think Australia is going to come out of this better than most countries. If we can keep at or improve the current rates of new cases (approx or less than 200 per day) that should on average be only adding less than 5 - 10 cases to hospital a day. I think that over the next 30 days we will see the peak hitting the hospitals as that large surge washes through, but as individual cases recover (or unfortunately pass away) we should start to see the strain ease on the health system. Based on 5 to 8 days for symptoms to kick in for serious cases, the peak of worst cases should be hitting the hospitals now (5-8 days since the new cases started to dip). Then based on 30 days for recovery or death then we should see the health system strain to start easing.

Im no immunologist or health care expert, simply extrapolating the maths. I think it may be possible that we start to come out of this in a month. Hope Im right.

I agree, I actually see the decisions we make when this starts to ease as important as the decisions we are making now!


I agree. Its hard to envisage an endgame for this. Even if we could flick a magic switch and stop the virus in Australia, the whole of the world is going to be a potential contagion. I can imagine a situation where we are almost able to go back to semi normal life but our borders closed for years.

With your graphs ..which I love ...I'm guessing NSW is tracking the highest


I havent specifically been tracking based on states but NSW have 2493 of the 5540 national cases.

Was meaning as a % as in the 1.06


Ah sorry, yeah I havent been tracking that and dont have that data, although I'd have to say that based on the fact that more than half the cases are in NSW, they would have to be pretty close to that number otherwise they'd skew the overall data.

Read today that of the latest lot of travellers that they have quarantined in hotels, there is 120 of them showing symptoms. They were tested two days ago so its likely that tomorrow there could be a bit of a spike.
 
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We should wait until the findings of the Police review are known. I believe there is an issue surrounding communications from the ship. Also personal responsibility is an issue.

Personal responsibility is a separate issue though, NSW Health stuffed this up!

The Minister should go for defending those that made the decision to allow the passengers to disembark and also for not setting the correct process and procedures. Also for trying to cover up and blame Boarder Force when it was NSW Health. Those that made the incorrect decision should also go. Their judgment cannot be relied upon. I have zero confidence in NSW Health.

As a whole I think NSW health will do a very good job dealing with this crisis, I think we see we actually have a very good health system after this. I think this stuff up came from an individual under stress making a poor decision. Over the coming months we will see some of our front line medical people make some mistake under immense pressure and I think we need to support them as much as we can as they are about to be smashed for the next 3 months!

No one in NSW Health is taking responsibility for this stuff up. Therefore it is likely to happen again with the same dire consequences. Those people I mentioned must go.

Yeah I'm not sure who is doing more handwashing , NSW Health or the poor buggers still stuck on the cruise ships

I’d jump overboard and risk the sharks ..

Hobbo you would land on the deck below

I’d rather die trying ..
 
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