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@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza
 
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

You can throw as many antibiotics as you like at a virus and it does nothing except getting you closer to having zero tolerance towards antibiotics
 
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

so many viruses from everywhere! yikes

black death was no joke. Pretty scary how it spread from ships around europe! ironic with how covid spread on those cruise ships

I thought Mers a few years back was pretty bad, but comparatively its not so bad
 
@jadtiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139890) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

You can throw as many antibiotics as you like at a virus and it does nothing except getting you closer to having zero tolerance towards antibiotics


Um yes. Where did I say we should be using antbiotics against virus FFS
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.
 
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

Your use of an ambiguous sentence just confused people to what you were saying!

@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Your sentence can be read in 2 ways

1.All viruses, with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria, now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

2.All viruses, with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

1. is saying that all virus are easily treatable with antibiotics

2. is saying all are virus with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria and can be easily treatable with antibiotics.

Your sentence structure and lack of punctuation confused the meaning of your post!
 
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

Easier for you to edit your earlier post as with a fresh look, you should find it reads other than intended.
 
Is everyone happy with the jobkeeper allowance? I know i’m not impressed as i have been in the workforce for 40 years but am at new employment and casual for 5 months which is not a qualification for it , Go Figure
 
@Aceshigh said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139909) said:
Is everyone happy with the jobkeeper allowance? I know i’m not impressed as i have been in the workforce for 40 years but am at new employment and casual for 5 months which is not a qualification for it , Go Figure

It has helped me, I had already registered for the newstart but this has allowed me to be paid and continue to work in some small capacity for one of the businesses that I am involved with. The hard part with any scheme like this is there are people who will fall through the gaps in legislation.
 
in california they have what we would call medical centre's that are means tested so if you do not have a job you get free doctor consultations, when i was in the u s my daughter got sick and as we were travellers we were "unemployed" and didnt have a job in u.s. and were seen.
Also spent lots of time in u.s. hospital and if it is emergency surgery it is treated free of cost obviously elective is different. Rhis was in California not sure about other states
 
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

I thought your original post was pretty self-explanatory mate. People need to actually slow down and digest what they have read before going off half-cocked.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139933) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

I thought your original post was pretty self-explanatory mate. People need to actually slow down and digest what they have read before going off half-cocked.

Wasn't going off half cocked at all FTB

Know for fact in Australia we ran out of the tablet form of treating a staph infection around June

All I was saying was we can treat something if we have the meds ..if not we can't
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139940) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139933) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

I thought your original post was pretty self-explanatory mate. People need to actually slow down and digest what they have read before going off half-cocked.

Wasn't going off half cocked at all FTB

**Know for fact in Australia we ran out of the tablet form of treating a staph infection around June**

All I was saying was we can treat something if we have the meds ..if not we can't

Bugger me..What have they been giving me for the last 8 months..
 
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139942) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139940) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139933) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

I thought your original post was pretty self-explanatory mate. People need to actually slow down and digest what they have read before going off half-cocked.

Wasn't going off half cocked at all FTB

**Know for fact in Australia we ran out of the tablet form of treating a staph infection around June**

All I was saying was we can treat something if we have the meds ..if not we can't

Bugger me..What have they been giving me for the last 8 months..

2019 sorry
 
@Geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139942) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139940) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139933) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

I thought your original post was pretty self-explanatory mate. People need to actually slow down and digest what they have read before going off half-cocked.

Wasn't going off half cocked at all FTB

**Know for fact in Australia we ran out of the tablet form of treating a staph infection around June**

All I was saying was we can treat something if we have the meds ..if not we can't

Bugger me..What have they been giving me for the last 8 months..

Ratsak
 
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139940) said:
@Fade-To-Black said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139933) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

I thought your original post was pretty self-explanatory mate. People need to actually slow down and digest what they have read before going off half-cocked.

Wasn't going off half cocked at all FTB

Know for fact in Australia we ran out of the tablet form of treating a staph infection around June

All I was saying was we can treat something if we have the meds ..if not we can't

Didn't mention you specifically.
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139933) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

I thought your original post was pretty self-explanatory mate. People need to actually slow down and digest what they have read before going off half-cocked.

?
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139864) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139828) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139827) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139802) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139800) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139799) said:
This could show where the blame game is starting ..or is the NSW Govt attempting to try and shift the blame

msn.com/en-au/news/australia/nsw-police-homicide-squad-launch-criminal-investigation-into-ruby-princess-deaths/ar-BB12b313?ocid=ientp

This is the wrong way to go about it. It’s NSW govt trying to shift the blame. Normally you would have an enquiry and then if criminal activity was found charges would be laid. The way this had been setup is that the outcome has been determined and now a criminal investigation is taking place to fit the outcome, rather than find the truth.

Did you watch the Ch 7 article last night Mike ??

Can’t say I did. I did read the article you linked to though.

They had a Ruby Princess story on last night on 7 ...take out Rudd's histrionics and it was very informative ..majority of the blame needs to go to the Ruby ...they knew they had Covid patients when they turned around after Ardern closed the ports in NZ .....but the NSW health should have tested all passengers

They had ambulances waiting on the ships arrival into Sydney

Passengers claimed they were basically shoved off the ship like sheep

The ambulances at the dock were to take passengers with back and heart problems to hospital.

We know Operations at Carnival gave assurances Covid19 was not an issue in the ship, when in fact it was a significant issue.

NSW is the primary entry point into Aust via Kingsford Smith and Circular Quay. NSW Health is doing an outstanding job managing the containment of the virus and looking after patients in hospitals. At the first sign of trouble some want to stick the boot in. Who would you believe NSW Health or Carnival?

As for the passengers they are looking to blame someone when in fact they need to look in the mirror. More passengers off that ship will die before this ends.

I may have misheard it but during that CH 7 show last night, but I thought they said one of those people who were on the Ambulance died from the Virus ? If so I would question what Carnival are saying.
 
@Muffstar said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139960) said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139864) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139828) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139827) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139802) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139800) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139799) said:
This could show where the blame game is starting ..or is the NSW Govt attempting to try and shift the blame

msn.com/en-au/news/australia/nsw-police-homicide-squad-launch-criminal-investigation-into-ruby-princess-deaths/ar-BB12b313?ocid=ientp

This is the wrong way to go about it. It’s NSW govt trying to shift the blame. Normally you would have an enquiry and then if criminal activity was found charges would be laid. The way this had been setup is that the outcome has been determined and now a criminal investigation is taking place to fit the outcome, rather than find the truth.

Did you watch the Ch 7 article last night Mike ??

Can’t say I did. I did read the article you linked to though.

They had a Ruby Princess story on last night on 7 ...take out Rudd's histrionics and it was very informative ..majority of the blame needs to go to the Ruby ...they knew they had Covid patients when they turned around after Ardern closed the ports in NZ .....but the NSW health should have tested all passengers

They had ambulances waiting on the ships arrival into Sydney

Passengers claimed they were basically shoved off the ship like sheep

The ambulances at the dock were to take passengers with back and heart problems to hospital.

We know Operations at Carnival gave assurances Covid19 was not an issue in the ship, when in fact it was a significant issue.

NSW is the primary entry point into Aust via Kingsford Smith and Circular Quay. NSW Health is doing an outstanding job managing the containment of the virus and looking after patients in hospitals. At the first sign of trouble some want to stick the boot in. Who would you believe NSW Health or Carnival?

As for the passengers they are looking to blame someone when in fact they need to look in the mirror. More passengers off that ship will die before this ends.

I may have misheard it but during that CH 7 show last night, but I thought they said one of those people who were on the Ambulance died from the Virus ? If so I would question what Carnival are saying.

I thought they said the exact thing ..when they did the overhead shot ...
 
@Fade-To-Black said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139933) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139900) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139882) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139879) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139865) said:
@dazza65 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1139861) said:
Found this graphic interesting. ![NED-1434-Pandemics-over-time_btG7lA3I1.jpg](/assets/uploads/files/1586140641438-ned-1434-pandemics-over-time_btg7la3i1.jpg)
All viruses with the exception of the plague which is a bacteria now easily treatable with simple antibiotics

Umm. Antibiotics won’t treat a virus but will treat bacteria.


Yes Mike. Thats my comment. The biggest killer in the chart above is a bacteria that can now be easily treated with common antibiotics. Generally viruses can't be "treated" by antibiotics however there are anti-virals which "treat" viruses like HIV, Flu etc. The aim of antiviral therapy is to minimise symptoms and infectivity as well as to shorten the duration of illness but are very specific to the viral replication - some labs or looking at other antivirals at the moment to see if they will work with SARS-CoV-2 but still early days.

Bacteria can be treated by antibiotics and some are very specific with the type of antibiotic required whist other bacteria can be easily treated with what they call a broad spectrum antibiotic. The plague can actually be treated by a number of common antibiotics now like streptomycin and doxycycline amongst others.

Can be easily treated as long as we have stocks of it Dazza


For all - I am not saying we should be treating viruses with antibiotics. I purely mentioned that the biggest killer is the plague which is a BACTERIA and can be treated with simple antibiotics (of which we have oodles)

Once again VIRUSES cannot be treated with ANTIBIOTCS

I hope I have clarified myself for all.

I thought your original post was pretty self-explanatory mate. People need to actually slow down and digest what they have read before going off half-cocked.

Use of punctuation helps!
 
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