@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1142096) said:
Don't get caught up on numbers, we already know that the false positive test rate and false negative rates are outrageous so I really don't know how or where they're getting these numbers from because we have no accurate way of testing for it.
But the public love numbers, so they just give us numbers, highly inaccurate numbers and fancy graphs to satisfy the mindless morons.
"Hurry up Karen, the public need to see another graph, don't worry if it's not accurate they don't know anyway, they only know what we put on the graph, they'll believe whatever you put on there, we just need to show them lines and numbers"
Of course I dont think and I dont think anyone here thinks these numbers are definitive but based on the high number of testing carried out in Australia and the consistency of the data correlated against itself and also against hard figures that ARE definitive such as hospital admissions and deaths, the numbers are a good representation of whats going on.
False negatives or positives dont matter once people start arriving in Hospitals.
You cant see any value in comparisons of the data from Mid March to today?
I don't see any value in this whole thing, this whole thing has been a total overreaction the two doctors who started this whole "social isolation" thing have come out already and said their computer models were all wrong and their estimate of total number of deaths is going to be less than half predicted which is as many as a normal flu season
The prevention has and will cause more deaths and disruption to our lives than the virus itself.
They'll just be slower.
Are you going to stay inside until we get an effective vaccine for the flu, malaria, tuberculosis, or parasites like Chagas, elephantiasis, hookworm or liver flukes?
What about Nipah, Lassa or M.E respitory syndrome?
Lyme, West Nile, Zika, Hepatitis C?
What about respitory syncytial virus?
Shit, I bet you haven't even heard of half of these, you'll never go outside again.
You haven't seen the mass graves in New York? Or the nearly 10000 deaths in New York already?
Yes I have, but what I haven't seen is an accurate way to determine how many were actually caused by covid19.
I also haven't seen the whole world shut down due to all the other things I listed, which have the potential to kill as many if not more than covid19.
The media has duped the masses again
By "the masses" you mean the scientific community and all of the world leaders and their governments who have led the response to the virus? But not you, no you're too clever for that, you can see that this whole thing is being driven by the media for the clear agenda of selling more newspapers or something...
No, by "The masses"
I mean the brain dead zombies that believe everything that they hear on their idiot box.
Got a question for you to think about, how many times throughout history do we later find out that the narrative that at the time was being presented as the truth was actually wrong or intentionally misleading?
As for listening to the GOVERNMENT
Let's look at what the word means, let's break it down.
The word 'Govern' is from the Latin verb Guverno, Guvernare which means "To control"
The word 'Ment' is a Latin noun Mens, Mentis which means "Mind"
= Mind Control
So keep listening to your Government tell you what to do through your idiot box
Ok so its the government doing this to "control the masses"? Seriously?
Lets look at this closer. In the US, you have an incumbent President, who is a filthy capitalist, seeking re-election in a vote THIS year, planning his whole strategy for re-election on a booming economy and he thought to himself..."I know what would seal the deal....if I make everyone stay inside and completely grind the economy into the ground...that'll work"
and in Australia, a conservative government, about to post a budget surplus ...."this is too easy, lets set a challenge and try to get unemployment up over 25%"
I am genuinely interested in what you think the government stands to gain in doing this?
Power and control
Not convinced without further explanation. Power & control only makes sense to me in a leftist, post modern or socialist scenario in which larger more involved government is the goal, but again when its a Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Johnson or Morrison government, I dont see that agenda and they only stand to lose, there is no win for them.
Im also pretty sure that three nights in ICU would not have been part of the grand plan for Boris.
So either you expand on your thoughts, or we are done.
Oh now I get it, you actually think these puppets you see on the TV are in control.
Now I understand why it makes no sense to you when I say "Power and control"
At least you're thinking now, most people aren't capable of doing even that.
Ok....so New World Order, implemented by the WHO. Am I right?
Is it led by the Chinese, Knights Templar or Alien Lizard people?
I just want to take this moment to thank you Tiger5150 for the effort in giving us a very well documented graph and explanation of such..
I do agree with most on here that we have to have restrictions like have been put in place to protect the community at large..
I also see the many arguments in regard to isolated NRL and other typical comparisons so as life can get back to as normal as possible..
I cant understand how people are still trying to shrug off this virus as it is only a flu,when so many people are dead and gravely ill from it and cases are still being uncovered daily all over the world..
Just this morning news.com stated that China is preparing for a second wave of this virus,it certainly looks bleak for the future if it is the case,restrictions may go longer than anticipated.
As for hangonaminute I truly believe he is living in a world of his own,to try and convince all and sundry that the Govt and expert medical advisors are trying mind and power control over us beggars belief,he surely is entitled to his opinion however,some of his remarks in regard to this topic cross the line of sensibility eg,trying to tell us more people die from being hit on the head by coconuts adds insult and injury to the many families worldwide that have lost loved ones,he obviously does not understand sensitive issues such as family loss especially if someone on this forum has lost someone through this or knows someone who has..
By "expert medical advisers" are you talking about the Health Minister who let all the infected people off the cruise ship?
The cruise ship which has directly been responsible for most of the deaths in Australia?
Yeah keep following the "orders" of these people, it's working really well.
The Health Minister isn't a health expert!
So he doesn't get advised by health experts?
Why does it matter that he does? i Get advised by mechanic whats wrong with my car, but it doesn't make me a mechanic. He only responds to the advice given to him. Thats why you have experts isn't it?
So he's a puppet, just like I said.
Yet everyone wants to start talking about NWO rubbish and tin foil hats, when I say it.
At least you're learning.
But I'm sure the families of the people who passed away think it matters what instructions the Health Minister gave, don't you?
Well i actually do think it matters about the instructions mate. Reality is without them the death rate in this country would be much, much higher. Now i can't speak for you or anybody else, but my parents are around the 70 mark, and while we are all in acceptance of age and it's ramifications, i don't want them going before their time because of the arrogance of society who couldn't be bothered to sacrifice a little for their fellow countrymen, particularly when i look at the sacrifices made by previous generations to allow us the lifestyle we live today. Then again, my employment is in an industry that every life matters, so i guess there are different priorities.
Furious, you are like most where you are able to at least have enough empathy and intelligence to consider the greater good, but there are some with enough arrogance and lack of empathy that they consider that their personal wants and rights surpass others requirements.
Thankful it seems you and I are in the massive majority/
