Coronavirus Outbreak

[cochise]

I/We live on the other side of the world but could clearly see what was unfolding with this Virus and it's devastating effects on Humanity, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, was clearly downplaying the Virus.
You have to ask yourself why
What was in it for him


I recently posted this in the politics thread, and to be honest that is where it belongs and Geo will probably move it, but it is relevant to this comment in this thread...

You do realise that lockdown and social restrictions are a state requirement dont you? NY lockdown was enacted by the Democratic Governor Cuomo, not Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. Same for each state, to various degrees, with varying results.

Jan 29 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon created the Coronavirus taskforce including Dr Fauci, previous Clinton staffer.

Jan31 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon Bans flights from China

Mid February, NY Mayor Bill De Blasio tells New Yorks to get down to Chinatown and fill the restaurants.

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

Feb 25 Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi encourages everyone to get down and mingle in Chinatown in San Francisco stating "Its very safe!"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/chinatown-san-francisco-coronavirus-fears-empty-district

But Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down?

I'm not talking about individual states or individual decisions by Governor's
I am talking about what the President of the United States was preaching to his people
That is all the people in the United states

Jan. 22

Asked by CNBC whether there were any concerns about the virus spreading to the U.S., Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon responded: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."



"We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."

President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Jan. 22
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January 20 - 26

On January 20, China reported a third death and more than 200 infections, with cases also reported outside Hubei province including in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen.

Meanwhile, a Chinese expert on infectious diseases confirmed human-to-human transmission to state broadcaster CCTV, raising fears of a major outbreak as millions travelled for the Lunar New Year holiday.

The cities of Wuhan, Xiantao and Chibi in Hubei province were placed under effective quarantine on January 23 as air and rail departures were suspended. By the end of the week, more areas were placed under lockdown affecting a total of 56 million people.


So on the 22th of January Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon makes the above statement, yet on the 20th it was confirmed human-to-human transmission had occurred

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down yes
He has now changed his tune

I am not saying it's his fault that the Virus made it to the US
I am saying he is the President
Millions of people listen to him and follow him
I don't think his comment ( We have it totally under control ) was the best choice of words
It clearly isn't

They are his words
And this is my opinion
But I wasn't there and I am reading this off the net


Your entitled to your opinion and on a forum, we are entitled to discuss it.

On Jan 19, the first case was detected in the US. On Jan 22 when Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said there was one person with the virus, from China. In the whole of the US, there was one person with the virus, from China.

Just seven days later Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon forms a national Coronavirus taskforce headed by an impartial former democrat staffer and bans flights from China. In just 7 days. I hardly think that is underplaying it.

Alex Azar who headed up the taskforce (and is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's very own secretary of health) has gone public saying Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon had his head in the sand and ignored the task force's advice.

He's one of a long list apolitical types that are saying exactly the same thing.

It doesn't get much more damning than that.

The fact that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was running around a few weeks back saying the country would be open for Easter should be enough for anyone to question the bloke's mental state.

Now that his supporter base are starting to fall ill, he's looking more and more like a rat that's backed into a corner.

He announced today he is going to introduce legislation to allow states to open back up, he is about to push for restrictions to be removed!


Actually more accurately, he enabled each State Governor to make their own decisions about opening back up or not opening back up. He is specifically making it NOT his decision.

But also said that they can't stay lockdown, that the economy needs to be reopened, that the supply chains need to restart! If they don't reopen they will enter a depression the us will never recover from.


All of which is true. The US is a massive place. It makes sense to enable the State Governors to make the decisions when you have WEst Virginia with 700 cases and NY with 220,000 cases.

I'll bow to your superior knowledge of the US! I'm just worried the US is going to have outbreak like in NY across different stats for the next 6 months or so!


I have no superior knowledge of the US. To me it just makes sense that you would treat a state with 700 cases differently to a state with 200,000. Also if you are looking to keep the economy alive by opening some places up, states like West Virginia are obviously going to be safer to open up than NY and at least it keeps the economic heart beating faintly.

Your knowledge might be superior to mine though lol. As I said just worried the damage that could be caused by rolling outbreaks across the US.

 

[Tiger5150]

I/We live on the other side of the world but could clearly see what was unfolding with this Virus and it's devastating effects on Humanity, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, was clearly downplaying the Virus.
You have to ask yourself why
What was in it for him


I recently posted this in the politics thread, and to be honest that is where it belongs and Geo will probably move it, but it is relevant to this comment in this thread...

You do realise that lockdown and social restrictions are a state requirement dont you? NY lockdown was enacted by the Democratic Governor Cuomo, not Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. Same for each state, to various degrees, with varying results.

Jan 29 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon created the Coronavirus taskforce including Dr Fauci, previous Clinton staffer.

Jan31 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon Bans flights from China

Mid February, NY Mayor Bill De Blasio tells New Yorks to get down to Chinatown and fill the restaurants.

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

Feb 25 Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi encourages everyone to get down and mingle in Chinatown in San Francisco stating "Its very safe!"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/chinatown-san-francisco-coronavirus-fears-empty-district

But Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down?

I'm not talking about individual states or individual decisions by Governor's
I am talking about what the President of the United States was preaching to his people
That is all the people in the United states

Jan. 22

Asked by CNBC whether there were any concerns about the virus spreading to the U.S., Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon responded: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."



"We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."

President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Jan. 22
------

January 20 - 26

On January 20, China reported a third death and more than 200 infections, with cases also reported outside Hubei province including in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen.

Meanwhile, a Chinese expert on infectious diseases confirmed human-to-human transmission to state broadcaster CCTV, raising fears of a major outbreak as millions travelled for the Lunar New Year holiday.

The cities of Wuhan, Xiantao and Chibi in Hubei province were placed under effective quarantine on January 23 as air and rail departures were suspended. By the end of the week, more areas were placed under lockdown affecting a total of 56 million people.


So on the 22th of January Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon makes the above statement, yet on the 20th it was confirmed human-to-human transmission had occurred

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down yes
He has now changed his tune

I am not saying it's his fault that the Virus made it to the US
I am saying he is the President
Millions of people listen to him and follow him
I don't think his comment ( We have it totally under control ) was the best choice of words
It clearly isn't

They are his words
And this is my opinion
But I wasn't there and I am reading this off the net


Your entitled to your opinion and on a forum, we are entitled to discuss it.

On Jan 19, the first case was detected in the US. On Jan 22 when Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said there was one person with the virus, from China. In the whole of the US, there was one person with the virus, from China.

Just seven days later Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon forms a national Coronavirus taskforce headed by an impartial former democrat staffer and bans flights from China. In just 7 days. I hardly think that is underplaying it.

Alex Azar who headed up the taskforce (and is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's very own secretary of health) has gone public saying Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon had his head in the sand and ignored the task force's advice.

He's one of a long list apolitical types that are saying exactly the same thing.

It doesn't get much more damning than that.

The fact that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was running around a few weeks back saying the country would be open for Easter should be enough for anyone to question the bloke's mental state.

Now that his supporter base are starting to fall ill, he's looking more and more like a rat that's backed into a corner.

He announced today he is going to introduce legislation to allow states to open back up, he is about to push for restrictions to be removed!


Actually more accurately, he enabled each State Governor to make their own decisions about opening back up or not opening back up. He is specifically making it NOT his decision.

But also said that they can't stay lockdown, that the economy needs to be reopened, that the supply chains need to restart! If they don't reopen they will enter a depression the us will never recover from.


All of which is true. The US is a massive place. It makes sense to enable the State Governors to make the decisions when you have WEst Virginia with 700 cases and NY with 220,000 cases.

I'll bow to your superior knowledge of the US! I'm just worried the US is going to have outbreak like in NY across different stats for the next 6 months or so!


I have no superior knowledge of the US. To me it just makes sense that you would treat a state with 700 cases differently to a state with 200,000. Also if you are looking to keep the economy alive by opening some places up, states like West Virginia are obviously going to be safer to open up than NY and at least it keeps the economic heart beating faintly.

Your knowledge might be superior to mine though lol. As I said just worried the damage that could be caused by rolling outbreaks across the US.

Pick your poison.

Australia like every other country on the planet will be hit hard financially by this crisis but also like every other nation, the depth and duration of the global economic crisis will be in large part relative to the economic state of the US.

From a purely selfish Australian economic POV, we need the US to open and pump their economy as fast as possbile. From a human POV I hope they can do it with minimal loss of life.

IMO globally there is a requirement and requirement to get the US back to full strength ASAP. China are back into it and extending finance quickly globally/ It is in our interest to have a friendly western nation priming the worlds economy.

 

[mike]

Penrith nursing home is going be an absolute crap show.

There's 20 infected residents now. MIL got her test back yesterday, she's negative thankfully.

An absolute disaster, this would have to one of the worst case scenarios unfolding.

Good news that MIL has tested negative.

 

[innsaneink]

Penrith nursing home is going be an absolute crap show.

There's 20 infected residents now. MIL got her test back yesterday, she's negative thankfully.

Very good news CB,but still stay vigilant and keep yourself and family safe...God bless..

Ta Zig.

Hope you're doing well despite the circumstances mate.

Yeah CB Im keeping positive,just waiting for some money from jobseeker which may come this weekend 19th was my estimated date,heres hoping mate...

Hey zig.... Where did you find the estimate?

 

[TillLindemann]

Penrith nursing home is going be an absolute crap show.

There's 20 infected residents now. MIL got her test back yesterday, she's negative thankfully.

Glad to hear your MIL tested negative. Unfortunately it's now risen to 30 cases there!

 

[pawsandclaws1]

What is happening at these retirement homes in Penrith and NW Tasmania is distressing.

I can't agree with the PM publicly calling out a medical worker in NW Tasmania for allegedly not being truthful in terms of contact tracing. It is not his role to comment.

 

[cochise]

What is happening at these retirement homes in Penrith and NW Tasmania is distressing.

I can't agree with the PM publicly calling out a medical worker in NW Tasmania for allegedly not being truthful in terms of contact tracing. It is not his role to comment.

Same thing Brad Hazzard did with the worker from Penrith, it is going to be emotionally and mentally devastating for both those works.

I am about 500 mtrs from the Penrith Nursing home and fell so sorry for the fear the residents must be felling in there atm!

 

[Tim Sheens]

What is happening at these retirement homes in Penrith and NW Tasmania is distressing.

I can't agree with the PM publicly calling out a medical worker in NW Tasmania for allegedly not being truthful in terms of contact tracing. It is not his role to comment.

Same thing Brad Hazzard did with the worker from Penrith, it is going to be emotionally and mentally devastating for both those works.

I am about 500 mtrs from the Penrith Nursing home and fell so sorry for the fear the residents must be felling in there atm!

The bigger problem is why do these workers have to work in multiple centres to make a living. Let's not kid ourselves and call a spade just that. The casual workforce created by the want to break down unions in this and other industries is at the heart of such problems.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I/We live on the other side of the world but could clearly see what was unfolding with this Virus and it's devastating effects on Humanity, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, was clearly downplaying the Virus.
You have to ask yourself why
What was in it for him


I recently posted this in the politics thread, and to be honest that is where it belongs and Geo will probably move it, but it is relevant to this comment in this thread...

You do realise that lockdown and social restrictions are a state requirement dont you? NY lockdown was enacted by the Democratic Governor Cuomo, not Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. Same for each state, to various degrees, with varying results.

Jan 29 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon created the Coronavirus taskforce including Dr Fauci, previous Clinton staffer.

Jan31 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon Bans flights from China

Mid February, NY Mayor Bill De Blasio tells New Yorks to get down to Chinatown and fill the restaurants.

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

Feb 25 Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi encourages everyone to get down and mingle in Chinatown in San Francisco stating "Its very safe!"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/chinatown-san-francisco-coronavirus-fears-empty-district

But Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down?

I'm not talking about individual states or individual decisions by Governor's
I am talking about what the President of the United States was preaching to his people
That is all the people in the United states

Jan. 22

Asked by CNBC whether there were any concerns about the virus spreading to the U.S., Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon responded: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."



"We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."

President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Jan. 22
------

January 20 - 26

On January 20, China reported a third death and more than 200 infections, with cases also reported outside Hubei province including in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen.

Meanwhile, a Chinese expert on infectious diseases confirmed human-to-human transmission to state broadcaster CCTV, raising fears of a major outbreak as millions travelled for the Lunar New Year holiday.

The cities of Wuhan, Xiantao and Chibi in Hubei province were placed under effective quarantine on January 23 as air and rail departures were suspended. By the end of the week, more areas were placed under lockdown affecting a total of 56 million people.


So on the 22th of January Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon makes the above statement, yet on the 20th it was confirmed human-to-human transmission had occurred

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down yes
He has now changed his tune

I am not saying it's his fault that the Virus made it to the US
I am saying he is the President
Millions of people listen to him and follow him
I don't think his comment ( We have it totally under control ) was the best choice of words
It clearly isn't

They are his words
And this is my opinion
But I wasn't there and I am reading this off the net


Your entitled to your opinion and on a forum, we are entitled to discuss it.

On Jan 19, the first case was detected in the US. On Jan 22 when Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said there was one person with the virus, from China. In the whole of the US, there was one person with the virus, from China.

Just seven days later Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon forms a national Coronavirus taskforce headed by an impartial former democrat staffer and bans flights from China. In just 7 days. I hardly think that is underplaying it.

Alex Azar who headed up the taskforce (and is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's very own secretary of health) has gone public saying Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon had his head in the sand and ignored the task force's advice.

He's one of a long list apolitical types that are saying exactly the same thing.

It doesn't get much more damning than that.

I agree with you that MANY people have been saying that and as far as I know, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon may have been saying things publically and privately suggesting he had his head in the sand. What I have said about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon in this thread, is what his *actions* have been in response to the crisis.I have given a list of decisive and positive actions that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon took VERY early in the piece. He formed the taskforce and blocked flights from China, Iran & Europe before WHO had even declared an emergency let alone a pandemic. What *actions* do you think Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon could have taken better and ealier to have improved the situation? Ill help you with one, I think he could and should have pushed the CDC to have tested harder and better, earlier.

Everyone gets caught up with what Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon says but as he told Jim Acosta at the recent press conference, he is trying to be positive to give hope and a light at the end of the tunnel.


The fact that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was running around a few weeks back saying the country would be open for Easter should be enough for anyone to question the bloke's mental state.


Ok.....so THIS ^^^^^ is why I seem to get constantly drawn into these discussions. This is simply a lie. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon never said that or anything like that. His words were, "wouldnt it be nice, but Ill leave that to the experts" Three days later he announced that it wouldnt be until at least the end of May. The fact that people make this stuff up constantly and repeat it makes me question their mental state (not you Papcito, Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just had some bad information).

I am not going to engage you here again on this, but must call you out on your assertions that are simply not true and even more so as you have written elsewhere this morning that you were only taking other people to task because of bulls.....

Please check yourself before attacking others with false timelines and assertions, as the post above is not the only one in recent days.

 

[TillLindemann]

What is happening at these retirement homes in Penrith and NW Tasmania is distressing.

I can't agree with the PM publicly calling out a medical worker in NW Tasmania for allegedly not being truthful in terms of contact tracing. It is not his role to comment.

Same thing Brad Hazzard did with the worker from Penrith, it is going to be emotionally and mentally devastating for both those works.

I am about 500 mtrs from the Penrith Nursing home and fell so sorry for the fear the residents must be felling in there atm!

I used to live in the exact same neck of the woods

 

[pawsandclaws1]

What is happening at these retirement homes in Penrith and NW Tasmania is distressing.

I can't agree with the PM publicly calling out a medical worker in NW Tasmania for allegedly not being truthful in terms of contact tracing. It is not his role to comment.

Same thing Brad Hazzard did with the worker from Penrith, it is going to be emotionally and mentally devastating for both those works.

I am about 500 mtrs from the Penrith Nursing home and fell s

o sorry for the fear the residents must be felling in there atm!

The bigger problem is why do these workers have to work in multiple centres to make a living. Let's not kid ourselves and call a spade just that. The casual workforce created by the want to break down unions in this and other industries is at the heart of such problems.

Absolutely correct.

It has been a morning with the liar from the shire calling someone else a liar. Dutts now looking for a distraction with hisattack at China to take the head away from the Ruby don't take your passengers to town tune.

 

[cochise]

What is happening at these retirement homes in Penrith and NW Tasmania is distressing.

I can't agree with the PM publicly calling out a medical worker in NW Tasmania for allegedly not being truthful in terms of contact tracing. It is not his role to comment.

Same thing Brad Hazzard did with the worker from Penrith, it is going to be emotionally and mentally devastating for both those works.

I am about 500 mtrs from the Penrith Nursing home and fell so sorry for the fear the residents must be felling in there atm!

I used to live in the exact same neck of the woods

Where abouts did you live?

 

[TillLindemann]

What is happening at these retirement homes in Penrith and NW Tasmania is distressing.

I can't agree with the PM publicly calling out a medical worker in NW Tasmania for allegedly not being truthful in terms of contact tracing. It is not his role to comment.

Same thing Brad Hazzard did with the worker from Penrith, it is going to be emotionally and mentally devastating for both those works.

I am about 500 mtrs from the Penrith Nursing home and fell so sorry for the fear the residents must be felling in there atm!

I used to live in the exact same neck of the woods

Where abouts did you live?

Up near Second Avenue, a stone's throw from the uni

 

[cochise]

What is happening at these retirement homes in Penrith and NW Tasmania is distressing.

I can't agree with the PM publicly calling out a medical worker in NW Tasmania for allegedly not being truthful in terms of contact tracing. It is not his role to comment.

Same thing Brad Hazzard did with the worker from Penrith, it is going to be emotionally and mentally devastating for both those works.

I am about 500 mtrs from the Penrith Nursing home and fell so sorry for the fear the residents must be felling in there atm!

I used to live in the exact same neck of the woods

Where abouts did you live?

Up near Second Avenue, a stone's throw from the uni

While at Uni, I lived in the block of units across from the Anglican church on the corner of second Ave and Bringelly rd, I now live just off Smith St in behind Kingswood High. It's funny when we were buying we didn't intend to stay in Kingswood but just found a nice house on a quiet street that we loved!

 

[momo_amp_medo]

Europe correspondent Bevan Shields writes from London of his 10 days in hell with coronavirus.

The days had a grim rhythm before I got sick. As coronavirus tightened its grip on Europe, Spain’s latest death toll would come in mid-morning , France and the United Kingdom would follow mid-afternoon and Italy at 5pm. Thousands would be dead by the time I filed my story before dinner.

It’s strangely easy to become desensitised to death on an industrial scale, and I fear that is happening to some degree in Australia as well as here in the UK. Distracted by Boris Johnson’s brush with mortality, Britain seems to have not fully come to grips with the scale of the unfolding disaster. More than 13,000 have now died, although the true figure is much higher because thousands of deaths in the community aren’t included in the tally. The epidemic in the UK is tracking disturbingly close to Italy, whose plight once shocked the world.

I’ve been covering the pandemic since the first stages of the deadly outbreak around Milan and Venice in late February. It was obvious I could catch it. But as a healthy 34-year-old with no underlying health conditions, I wasn’t overly worried about falling ill. I saw the virus as a big story to cover, not a threat to my health.

Then, about two weeks ago, I woke up with a sore throat and felt lethargic. I sent my editor a message on Wednesday, April 1, asking for a couple of quiet days to shake off what I assumed was exhaustion. But things spiralled and the symptoms of COVID-19 developed rapidly. By Saturday, my sense of taste and smell disappeared and my body felt like it had been pummelled by baseball bats.

Fever set in as I went to bed that night. Cold chills made me shake uncontrollably for hours even though my skin was searingly hot to touch. The chills eventually subsided and I was boiling for the rest of the night. The next day I could barely stand up and didn’t have the energy to do anything other than sit on the couch or lay in bed. I couldn’t focus on a television screen for more than a few minutes. My neck felt like it had been trampled on and my head like it was about to explode.

I sat at my desk that Sunday night and filed a story about the Queen’s rare broadcast to the nation. I struggled to type and felt like I was about to pass out. That same night I shook so violently from the fever that I threw up.

By mid-week , a dry cough had set in and my breathing got shorter and sharper. One of the worst moments came on Thursday when I got up for the third time that night. After getting out of the shower, I got dressed in the bathroom but slumped to the floor clutching my chest and gasping for air. At the end of half an hour on the tiles I still couldn’t stand up so had to crawl on my hands and knees back to the bedroom and literally climb into bed. I never told my already worried family, friends or colleagues that bit.

I did not think I was going to die but it absolutely felt like the virus was trying hard to kill me. I’ve never been so sick, or scared.

This is no ordinary cold or flu and the simplistic comparisons to seasonal flu during the early stages of the coronavirus pandemic did a huge disservice to public safety. Many people will indeed experience only mild symptoms and recover within a few days. Others have it and don’t even know it. But the virus is vicious in the way it attacks everyone else, and remarkable in how easily it can spread. The only way I could have contracted it was at the supermarkets; it was the only place I had been in the fortnight before the symptoms developed, other than a few walks around London’s deserted streets.

Had COVID-19 not existed and I had the same symptoms, I would have taken myself to hospital for help days earlier. My bosses and friends repeatedly urged me to go to hospital, however getting medical assistance was not easy. The authorities don’t want symptomatic people anywhere near a GP’s office or emergency department, so have built substantial barriers to getting tested and entering hospital.

I called the National Health Service three times to ask for help. During the first two consultations, sympathetic clinicians told me to stay home, ride it out and call for an ambulance if I had sustained difficulty breathing. The advice makes sense on paper or when it is uttered at one of Downing Street’s daily press conferences, but feels almost callous when you are so horribly sick. I was lucky to have a big support network to rely on but not everyone is so fortunate.

The government’s advice is to isolate at home for at least seven days if you have symptoms and live alone. Contact tracing is non-existent . Here in Britain, you can only get tested for coronavirus if you are in hospital. Compare that to Australia, where people with even minor symptoms are now being urged to come forward for testing.

The only way I will be able to confirm I had coronavirus will be through an antibody test. Downing Street’s own experts now concede the lack of widespread testing has been a major error and are urgently trying to lift the number of daily tests to 100,000. Overall, the UK is still only testing roughly the same number of people as Australia, which has half the population and is far less affected by the outbreak. It’s a strange situation when so many other countries have been able to ramp up mass testing to better control the pandemic.

My third call to the NHS led them to dispatch an ambulance to my apartment because my symptoms had not improved after a week and my breathing was getting more laboured. Dressed head to toe in protective equipment, two paramedics came inside and checked my temperature, blood pressure and heart rate. I was racked with guilt the whole time about exposing them to possible infection. We talked about whether I should go to hospital and in the end I decided against it after they made it pretty clear that the nearest one – St Thomas’ , where Johnson was being treated – was basically at capacity and I could find myself in a waiting room or corridor.

It was the right call: that night I improved and within two days it felt like the virus had given up and moved on. The fever has gone and my breathing has been improving. But I worry deeply about how many people also tried to do the right thing by avoiding emergency departments, only to leave it too late.

Around the world, debate about the virus is shifting to how to return to some semblance of normality. It’s an important discussion but one that must be carefully balanced with an understanding that people are still suffering from this disease, often alone. And that many who have been fortunate enough to avoid this virus so far will have a horrible ordeal, or even die, if the easing goes too far too soon.

Australia’s own track record in suppressing the virus is remarkable. Prime Minister Scott Morrison and state premiers have done a good job in protecting the public from the sort of carnage Europe is experiencing daily. The risk of that success is that Australians become restless about the heavy economic costs of the strategy, and complacent about how easily COVID-19 spreads and how dangerous it can be.

Those grim daily death tolls have arrived for today: another 1438 deaths have been recorded in the past 24 hours in France, 761 in Britain, 578 in Italy and 523 in Spain. That’s 3300 in a day in just four countries. Don’t be complacent. You don’t want to catch this.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Oops, this is a little embarrassing, the Tasmanian CMO has denied the healthcare worker lied about contact tracing. Doesn't Scomo have reliable snitches in Tasmania? .

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

What is happening at these retirement homes in Penrith and NW Tasmania is distressing.

I can't agree with the PM publicly calling out a medical worker in NW Tasmania for allegedly not being truthful in terms of contact tracing. It is not his role to comment.

Same thing Brad Hazzard did with the worker from Penrith, it is going to be emotionally and mentally devastating for both those works.

I am about 500 mtrs from the Penrith Nursing home and fell so sorry for the fear the residents must be felling in there atm!

The bigger problem is why do these workers have to work in multiple centres to make a living. Let's not kid ourselves and call a spade just that. The casual workforce created by the want to break down unions in this and other industries is at the heart of such problems.

The home just underwent a change in their model as well. If you didn't like it, you got the flick.

 

[TrueTiger]

Penrith nursing home is going be an absolute crap show.

There's 20 infected residents now. MIL got her test back yesterday, she's negative thankfully.

Very good news CB,but still stay vigilant and keep yourself and family safe...God bless..

Ta Zig.

Hope you're doing well despite the circumstances mate.

Yeah CB Im keeping positive,just waiting for some money from jobseeker which may come this weekend 19th was my estimated date,heres hoping mate...

Hey zig.... Where did you find the estimate?

Hey Ink in mygov account "under view claim"..cheers mate..

 

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Ta zig.....

 

[Tiger5150]

I/We live on the other side of the world but could clearly see what was unfolding with this Virus and it's devastating effects on Humanity, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, was clearly downplaying the Virus.
You have to ask yourself why
What was in it for him


I recently posted this in the politics thread, and to be honest that is where it belongs and Geo will probably move it, but it is relevant to this comment in this thread...

You do realise that lockdown and social restrictions are a state requirement dont you? NY lockdown was enacted by the Democratic Governor Cuomo, not Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. Same for each state, to various degrees, with varying results.

Jan 29 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon created the Coronavirus taskforce including Dr Fauci, previous Clinton staffer.

Jan31 Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon Bans flights from China

Mid February, NY Mayor Bill De Blasio tells New Yorks to get down to Chinatown and fill the restaurants.

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/news/079-20/mayor-de-blasio-speaker-johnson-queens-chamber-commerce-encourage-new-yorkers-visit#/0

Feb 25 Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi encourages everyone to get down and mingle in Chinatown in San Francisco stating "Its very safe!"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/chinatown-san-francisco-coronavirus-fears-empty-district

But Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down?

I'm not talking about individual states or individual decisions by Governor's
I am talking about what the President of the United States was preaching to his people
That is all the people in the United states

Jan. 22

Asked by CNBC whether there were any concerns about the virus spreading to the U.S., Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon responded: "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."



"We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It's going to be just fine."

President Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon, Jan. 22
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January 20 - 26

On January 20, China reported a third death and more than 200 infections, with cases also reported outside Hubei province including in Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen.

Meanwhile, a Chinese expert on infectious diseases confirmed human-to-human transmission to state broadcaster CCTV, raising fears of a major outbreak as millions travelled for the Lunar New Year holiday.

The cities of Wuhan, Xiantao and Chibi in Hubei province were placed under effective quarantine on January 23 as air and rail departures were suspended. By the end of the week, more areas were placed under lockdown affecting a total of 56 million people.


So on the 22th of January Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon makes the above statement, yet on the 20th it was confirmed human-to-human transmission had occurred

Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was playing it down yes
He has now changed his tune

I am not saying it's his fault that the Virus made it to the US
I am saying he is the President
Millions of people listen to him and follow him
I don't think his comment ( We have it totally under control ) was the best choice of words
It clearly isn't

They are his words
And this is my opinion
But I wasn't there and I am reading this off the net


Your entitled to your opinion and on a forum, we are entitled to discuss it.

On Jan 19, the first case was detected in the US. On Jan 22 when Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon said there was one person with the virus, from China. In the whole of the US, there was one person with the virus, from China.

Just seven days later Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon forms a national Coronavirus taskforce headed by an impartial former democrat staffer and bans flights from China. In just 7 days. I hardly think that is underplaying it.

Alex Azar who headed up the taskforce (and is Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's very own secretary of health) has gone public saying Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon had his head in the sand and ignored the task force's advice.

He's one of a long list apolitical types that are saying exactly the same thing.

It doesn't get much more damning than that.

I agree with you that MANY people have been saying that and as far as I know, Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon may have been saying things publically and privately suggesting he had his head in the sand. What I have said about Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon in this thread, is what his *actions* have been in response to the crisis.I have given a list of decisive and positive actions that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon took VERY early in the piece. He formed the taskforce and blocked flights from China, Iran & Europe before WHO had even declared an emergency let alone a pandemic. What *actions* do you think Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon could have taken better and ealier to have improved the situation? Ill help you with one, I think he could and should have pushed the CDC to have tested harder and better, earlier.

Everyone gets caught up with what Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon says but as he told Jim Acosta at the recent press conference, he is trying to be positive to give hope and a light at the end of the tunnel.


The fact that Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon was running around a few weeks back saying the country would be open for Easter should be enough for anyone to question the bloke's mental state.


Ok.....so THIS ^^^^^ is why I seem to get constantly drawn into these discussions. This is simply a lie. Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon never said that or anything like that. His words were, "wouldnt it be nice, but Ill leave that to the experts" Three days later he announced that it wouldnt be until at least the end of May. The fact that people make this stuff up constantly and repeat it makes me question their mental state (not you Papcito, Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just had some bad information).

I am not going to engage you here again on this, but must call you out on your assertions that are simply not true and even more so as you have written elsewhere this morning that you were only taking other people to task because of bulls.....

Please check yourself before attacking others with false timelines and assertions, as the post above is not the only one in recent days.

FG as I said in my other post, I welcome that. That is how a discussion works and why we are here. I disagreed with part of your post and made an explanation of it with examples. Your response was I’m not engaging with you. In this post again, you say you won’t engage but “must call me out on my assertions that are simply not true”. Perfect, that’s great, from that a discussion can flow.

So what is it exactly that you are calling me out on? Which of my assertions are “simply not true.” This isn’t a contact sport, it’s a discussion and I’m interested. If I can be shown to have been wrong, I have zero issues with acknowledging it.

I do have an issue with you throwing platitudes out about me though with no clarification.