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@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Pretty simple really. The app just records other people withIn range who are also running the app. It does not record where the contact takes place just who it was.
 
@Red88_Tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145457) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.

I figure it's not about me and will possibly allow contact to be easier established if there is an outbreak. It doesn't trace where you have been just who you have been close to.
Also if I don't do anything wrong what have I got to be afraid of.

Arguing you don't care about the right to privacy if you have nothing to hide is no different to saying that you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145478) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Pretty simple really. The app just records other people withIn range who are also running the app. It does not record where the contact takes place just who it was.

And you believe that?
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145476) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145474) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145466) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145363) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145336) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145185) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145180) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree, there are many bad things as a result of restrictions, but the alternatives are worse and today being ANZAC day, it reminds us of who is most likely to be affected by this. Both by solitude for recent service personnel and if we don't continue social distancing on a suitable scale as things improve, those that served in Vietnam, Korea etcetera and the children that grew up in the second world war, along with the few remaining survivors of that conflict, it often means direct death.

I am surrounded with the mental health issues you alluded to at home and helping out my very affected sister daily, so I completely understand your concerns, but I am not willing to sacrifice my parents, along with their generation and similar others for the sake of more freedoms.

Mate , I’m 1 of those people . 3 people I served with topped themselves in the last 3 months.
And there’s are at least another 2 , we are really concerned about , as they won’t answer calls and no one knows exactly where they live , since this kicked off.
There were over 3000 deaths in 2019 from suicide , just knowing from the conversations I’ve had , we all just want support and feel like there’s none out there. VVCS is a joke , and the waiting list now is like 6 months just to get a call back.
I didn’t want to talk about this directly , but I am so concerned about days like today , hence my posting today. And that’s just returned serviceman.
There’s so many vulnerable people , out there who can’t just “go sit on their balcony”
The cure can’t be worse than the cause.

Please don't leave the forum. Keep posting mate but may I suggest try not take things personally.
Stay with us.... Even chatting here helps... As they say we all In this together

Mate thank you for your concern, but this wasn’t me reaching out for help . It was me being an advocate for those who won’t ask for it .
And just being generally disgusted with the way some of our society have drilled down on anyone not complying with what they perceive is the right thing to do, based on their own bubble. Which , frustrates me , as , any opinion I have today , can and should be open to change at a moments notice , when presented with facts. I don’t look for confirmation bias . Or echo chambers. Which reading this thread really felt like that to me .
It reminds me of V for Vendetta , or any other story about Dystopias. As this forum is a reflection of the rest of society. And you all should be very concerned about how easily , some , including some of you, have embraced this to an almost manic enforcement . Sure most because they want to protect the ones they love , but for some , it’s about having power over influencing other people . Nothing at all to do with covid.
The sooner we return to something resembling regular life , the better , as the longer it goes , the more brazen and justified these people will feel .
I’ts not conspiracies and nonsense either . It’s human nature . That’s why there’s so many books about it . And it’s happened before . The Spanish Inquisition, straight off the top of my head.

Someone here gets it, I said this from the beginning and I haven't seen anything to change my mind.

The prevention will be more harmful than the virus itself.

The mental health and financial implications for this are huge, but there is a lot of data to say that without these restrictions 10's of thousands, perhaps 100's of thousands people would have dies already from covid 19.

Bollocks

How is that bollocks? At the growth rate we had before the restrictions, we would be pass 200000 deaths by now. The restrictions brought that right down. Tell me how I am wrong?
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145477) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Seriously? it stores the phone number of anyone you have been in close contact with for 15 minutes.

When was the last time (during this circus) that you spent 15mins within 1.5m of a total stranger?
This app is a joke
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145481) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145476) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145474) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145466) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145363) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145336) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145185) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145180) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree, there are many bad things as a result of restrictions, but the alternatives are worse and today being ANZAC day, it reminds us of who is most likely to be affected by this. Both by solitude for recent service personnel and if we don't continue social distancing on a suitable scale as things improve, those that served in Vietnam, Korea etcetera and the children that grew up in the second world war, along with the few remaining survivors of that conflict, it often means direct death.

I am surrounded with the mental health issues you alluded to at home and helping out my very affected sister daily, so I completely understand your concerns, but I am not willing to sacrifice my parents, along with their generation and similar others for the sake of more freedoms.

Mate , I’m 1 of those people . 3 people I served with topped themselves in the last 3 months.
And there’s are at least another 2 , we are really concerned about , as they won’t answer calls and no one knows exactly where they live , since this kicked off.
There were over 3000 deaths in 2019 from suicide , just knowing from the conversations I’ve had , we all just want support and feel like there’s none out there. VVCS is a joke , and the waiting list now is like 6 months just to get a call back.
I didn’t want to talk about this directly , but I am so concerned about days like today , hence my posting today. And that’s just returned serviceman.
There’s so many vulnerable people , out there who can’t just “go sit on their balcony”
The cure can’t be worse than the cause.

Please don't leave the forum. Keep posting mate but may I suggest try not take things personally.
Stay with us.... Even chatting here helps... As they say we all In this together

Mate thank you for your concern, but this wasn’t me reaching out for help . It was me being an advocate for those who won’t ask for it .
And just being generally disgusted with the way some of our society have drilled down on anyone not complying with what they perceive is the right thing to do, based on their own bubble. Which , frustrates me , as , any opinion I have today , can and should be open to change at a moments notice , when presented with facts. I don’t look for confirmation bias . Or echo chambers. Which reading this thread really felt like that to me .
It reminds me of V for Vendetta , or any other story about Dystopias. As this forum is a reflection of the rest of society. And you all should be very concerned about how easily , some , including some of you, have embraced this to an almost manic enforcement . Sure most because they want to protect the ones they love , but for some , it’s about having power over influencing other people . Nothing at all to do with covid.
The sooner we return to something resembling regular life , the better , as the longer it goes , the more brazen and justified these people will feel .
I’ts not conspiracies and nonsense either . It’s human nature . That’s why there’s so many books about it . And it’s happened before . The Spanish Inquisition, straight off the top of my head.

Someone here gets it, I said this from the beginning and I haven't seen anything to change my mind.

The prevention will be more harmful than the virus itself.

The mental health and financial implications for this are huge, but there is a lot of data to say that without these restrictions 10's of thousands, perhaps 100's of thousands people would have dies already from covid 19.

Bollocks

How is that bollocks? At the growth rate we had before the restrictions, we would be pass 200000 deaths by now. The restrictions brought that right down. Tell me how I am wrong?

Bollocks
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145480) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145478) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Pretty simple really. The app just records other people withIn range who are also running the app. It does not record where the contact takes place just who it was.

And you believe that?

It’s not a matter of belief. Do your research on the actual app rather than the conspiracy theory’s you believe.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145482) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145477) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Seriously? it stores the phone number of anyone you have been in close contact with for 15 minutes.

When was the last time (during this circus) that you spent 15mins within 1.5m of a total stranger?
This app is a joke

You do realise that the app is for when restrictions are lifted? Try reading before making uninformed comments.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145483) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145481) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145476) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145474) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145466) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145363) said:
@innsaneink said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145336) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145185) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145180) said:
@Strongee said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145167) said:
@happy_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145154) said:
Someone mentioned Vitamin B ...where has anyone in all of this been told we can't exercise .....or even sunbathe in your back yard

People don’t have backyards mate . And many are listening to the media , agenda driven panic merchants , who just want to drive hysteria for the clicks .
So many people , especially woman , who IMO have an already in built , genetic flight response , just are hiding inside .
To dismiss this , is naive at best. Many people are too scared to go outside at all , which like you said is over reacting , but it’s still happening.
Until the general consensus is lift the restrictions , these types , which due to some mental health issues in my family recently , Im starting to be more aware of , are really at risk.
And as the majority of our nation live in cities , and the general isolation , people tend to feel in the biggest cities , this is a huge issue.
Domestic violence , alchohol use , online gambling , are through the roof. This isn’t good , as a potential on going social issue post COVID.

I agree, there are many bad things as a result of restrictions, but the alternatives are worse and today being ANZAC day, it reminds us of who is most likely to be affected by this. Both by solitude for recent service personnel and if we don't continue social distancing on a suitable scale as things improve, those that served in Vietnam, Korea etcetera and the children that grew up in the second world war, along with the few remaining survivors of that conflict, it often means direct death.

I am surrounded with the mental health issues you alluded to at home and helping out my very affected sister daily, so I completely understand your concerns, but I am not willing to sacrifice my parents, along with their generation and similar others for the sake of more freedoms.

Mate , I’m 1 of those people . 3 people I served with topped themselves in the last 3 months.
And there’s are at least another 2 , we are really concerned about , as they won’t answer calls and no one knows exactly where they live , since this kicked off.
There were over 3000 deaths in 2019 from suicide , just knowing from the conversations I’ve had , we all just want support and feel like there’s none out there. VVCS is a joke , and the waiting list now is like 6 months just to get a call back.
I didn’t want to talk about this directly , but I am so concerned about days like today , hence my posting today. And that’s just returned serviceman.
There’s so many vulnerable people , out there who can’t just “go sit on their balcony”
The cure can’t be worse than the cause.

Please don't leave the forum. Keep posting mate but may I suggest try not take things personally.
Stay with us.... Even chatting here helps... As they say we all In this together

Mate thank you for your concern, but this wasn’t me reaching out for help . It was me being an advocate for those who won’t ask for it .
And just being generally disgusted with the way some of our society have drilled down on anyone not complying with what they perceive is the right thing to do, based on their own bubble. Which , frustrates me , as , any opinion I have today , can and should be open to change at a moments notice , when presented with facts. I don’t look for confirmation bias . Or echo chambers. Which reading this thread really felt like that to me .
It reminds me of V for Vendetta , or any other story about Dystopias. As this forum is a reflection of the rest of society. And you all should be very concerned about how easily , some , including some of you, have embraced this to an almost manic enforcement . Sure most because they want to protect the ones they love , but for some , it’s about having power over influencing other people . Nothing at all to do with covid.
The sooner we return to something resembling regular life , the better , as the longer it goes , the more brazen and justified these people will feel .
I’ts not conspiracies and nonsense either . It’s human nature . That’s why there’s so many books about it . And it’s happened before . The Spanish Inquisition, straight off the top of my head.

Someone here gets it, I said this from the beginning and I haven't seen anything to change my mind.

The prevention will be more harmful than the virus itself.

The mental health and financial implications for this are huge, but there is a lot of data to say that without these restrictions 10's of thousands, perhaps 100's of thousands people would have dies already from covid 19.

Bollocks

How is that bollocks? At the growth rate we had before the restrictions, we would be pass 200000 deaths by now. The restrictions brought that right down. Tell me how I am wrong?

Bollocks

Wow great argument. You have convinced me now.
 
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145485) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145480) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145478) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Pretty simple really. The app just records other people withIn range who are also running the app. It does not record where the contact takes place just who it was.

And you believe that?

It’s not a matter of belief. Do your research on the actual app rather than the conspiracy theory’s you believe.

During this circus, have you ever spent 15min within 1.5m of a total stranger?
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145493) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145485) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145480) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145478) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Pretty simple really. The app just records other people withIn range who are also running the app. It does not record where the contact takes place just who it was.

And you believe that?

It’s not a matter of belief. Do your research on the actual app rather than the conspiracy theory’s you believe.

During this circus, have you ever spent 15min within 1.5m of a total stranger?

It is not for during the restrictions, it is to allow contact tracing once the restrictions are relaxed.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145472) said:
The people that download this app are the same people that would let someone put a chip in their arm under the guise of your "safety"
Completely conditioned by the system, unable to see where this is all heading, fearful and willing to accept anything as long as it pacifies that fear.

People who say they don't care about privacy because they have nothing to hide should understand its no different to saying that you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

So go do as you're told, go download the app and give your overlords more control, they'll keep you safe.
Just like they kept everyone safe from the cruise passengers.

It blows my mind how easy it is to control the masses, the human species has sold itself out

Yeah everyone's stupid and scared but you, that's the likely explanation for all of this. I mean you were always way smarter, braver and more insightful than everyone else all the way through weren't you? Those teachers never knew what they were talking about. Your classmates were cowardly sheep. But not you. You're the special one who sees it all.
Do you think there's a room somewhere with hordes of mindless, government workers tracking what everyone is doing for...for what? What reason?
You're creating your own little dystopia through your delusions, but you're the only one living in it.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145490) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145482) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145477) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Seriously? it stores the phone number of anyone you have been in close contact with for 15 minutes.

When was the last time (during this circus) that you spent 15mins within 1.5m of a total stranger?
This app is a joke

You do realise that the app is for when restrictions are lifted? Try reading before making uninformed comments.

Are you going to spend 15m within 1.5m of a stranger when the restrictions are lifted?
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145493) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145485) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145480) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145478) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Pretty simple really. The app just records other people withIn range who are also running the app. It does not record where the contact takes place just who it was.

And you believe that?

It’s not a matter of belief. Do your research on the actual app rather than the conspiracy theory’s you believe.

During this circus, have you ever spent 15min within 1.5m of a total stranger?

Irrelevant question.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145496) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145490) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145482) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145477) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Seriously? it stores the phone number of anyone you have been in close contact with for 15 minutes.

When was the last time (during this circus) that you spent 15mins within 1.5m of a total stranger?
This app is a joke

You do realise that the app is for when restrictions are lifted? Try reading before making uninformed comments.

Are you going to spend 15m within 1.5m of a stranger when the restrictions are lifted?

I hope so
 
@Nelson said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145495) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145472) said:
The people that download this app are the same people that would let someone put a chip in their arm under the guise of your "safety"
Completely conditioned by the system, unable to see where this is all heading, fearful and willing to accept anything as long as it pacifies that fear.

People who say they don't care about privacy because they have nothing to hide should understand its no different to saying that you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.

So go do as you're told, go download the app and give your overlords more control, they'll keep you safe.
Just like they kept everyone safe from the cruise passengers.

It blows my mind how easy it is to control the masses, the human species has sold itself out

Yeah everyone's stupid and scared but you, that's the likely explanation for all of this. I mean you were always way smarter, braver and more insightful than everyone else all the way through weren't you? Those teachers never knew what they were talking about. Your classmates were cowardly sheep. But not you. You're the special one who sees it all.
Do you think there's a room somewhere with hordes of mindless, government workers tracking what everyone is doing for...for what? What reason?
You're creating your own little dystopia through your delusions, but you're the only one living in it.

Other sheep I see, first in line for that chip.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145500) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145496) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145490) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145482) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145477) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Seriously? it stores the phone number of anyone you have been in close contact with for 15 minutes.

When was the last time (during this circus) that you spent 15mins within 1.5m of a total stranger?
This app is a joke

You do realise that the app is for when restrictions are lifted? Try reading before making uninformed comments.

Are you going to spend 15m within 1.5m of a stranger when the restrictions are lifted?

I hope so

Well you are dumber than I thought.
 
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145502) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145500) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145496) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145490) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145482) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145477) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145475) said:
@mike said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145471) said:
@Hangonaminute said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145467) said:
@Snake said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145465) said:
@Papacito said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1145451) said:
There's no way in the world I will ever use this tracking app.

Legally, access to the data is a free for all for law enforcement agencies.

A "nah they won't" at a press conference isn't good enough for me.


??what a crack up ... I am sure you think your under the radar .. reality is they now everything about you and know exactly where you are and what you are purchasing. Do people really think they have privacy anymore ! There are more apps running on your phone now that track all your movements and thoughts ?

So if they know all that already, why do we need to download the app?

It will help capture those cases of Covid19 where the source is unknown. All the app does is note who you have been near. It doesn’t track where you have been or anything else for that matter.

So if someone you have been near tests positive to Covid19 health care can let you know that you have been in proximity of the virus. If you test positive for Covid19 health care can let those people you have been near know that they have been in close proximity of the virus.

Pretty straight forward really.

How can they know who I've been near if they don't track where I've been?

If you don't know where I've been, then you don't know where I've been, so you can't know who I've been near.

Seriously? it stores the phone number of anyone you have been in close contact with for 15 minutes.

When was the last time (during this circus) that you spent 15mins within 1.5m of a total stranger?
This app is a joke

You do realise that the app is for when restrictions are lifted? Try reading before making uninformed comments.

Are you going to spend 15m within 1.5m of a stranger when the restrictions are lifted?

I hope so

Well you are dumber than I thought.

So you won't come within 1.5 mtrs of anyone ever again?
 
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