Coronavirus Outbreak

[happy_tiger]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

So what do they think was the reason for the reduction in cases in Melbourne?

The COVID virus realised Melbourne is a dump and took off .

Visited Sydney 1st .....

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

From someone on the Northern Beaches, there may have been a small number of sketchy PCR positives but people weren’t sick up here

How do you know that?

I live here and I talk to lots of people including a few doctors

I really don't like using this type of language, but what a dumb comment. There was 100+ people that tested positive for covid during the Avalon cluster, did you know any of these people? How can you claim people weren't sick? How do you know?

If you followed the daily announcements you would have noted that the vast majority were asymptomatic

Again with the abuse, seriously is that ever necessary

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

From someone on the Northern Beaches, there may have been a small number of sketchy PCR positives but people weren’t sick up here

How do you know that?

I live here and I talk to lots of people including a few doctors


I live on the northern sydney beaches and have done for 40 years,the difference in attitude and general behaviour was very different during the "avalon episode" than at any time during the previous 10 months.Stop lying

More abuse, unnecessary and inaccurate as ever
And we don’t ever call it the northern sydney beaches
The difference in attitude and general behaviour was the result of the oppressive lockdowns which ruined Xmas for many in the beaches, not because people were sick

 

[jadtiger]

Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

From someone on the Northern Beaches, there may have been a small number of sketchy PCR positives but people weren’t sick up here

How do you know that?

I live here and I talk to lots of people including a few doctors


I live on the northern sydney beaches and have done for 40 years,the difference in attitude and general behaviour was very different during the "avalon episode" than at any time during the previous 10 months.Stop lying

More abuse, unnecessary and inaccurate as ever
And we don’t ever call it the northern sydney beaches
The difference in attitude and general behaviour was the result of the oppressive lockdowns which ruined Xmas for many in the beaches, not because people were sick

I called it the Sydney northern beaches for the obvious reason of refuting what lies you have spread and are still spreading about what happened here during the "Avalon hot spot" period and the lockdown.I know a few doctors as well and not one of them would agree with you.

 

[mike]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

What experts? Certainly no virologist or microbiologist I know would agree. Lockdowns work when the population complies and you stop importing the virus.

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Who would have thought

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads

How about the northern beaches? Why don't you stick to what has occurred locally rather than the US where the majority of the population are blinded into believing the virus is a hoax and doesn't exist.

From someone on the Northern Beaches, there may have been a small number of sketchy PCR positives but people weren’t sick up here

How do you know that?

I live here and I talk to lots of people including a few doctors


I live on the northern sydney beaches and have done for 40 years,the difference in attitude and general behaviour was very different during the "avalon episode" than at any time during the previous 10 months.Stop lying

More abuse, unnecessary and inaccurate as ever
And we don’t ever call it the northern sydney beaches
The difference in attitude and general behaviour was the result of the oppressive lockdowns which ruined Xmas for many in the beaches, not because people were sick


I called it the Sydney northern beaches for the obvious reason of refuting what lies you have spread and are still spreading about what happened here during the "Avalon hot spot" period and the lockdown.I know a few doctors as well and not one of them would agree with you.

Just because someone has a different opinion to you doesn’t make their comments lies. I am respectful of all views here even if I disagree. It would be nice to think I might be given the same courtesy

In my view the pain experienced by the lockdown at Xmas was excessive and a massive over reaction to a series of positive tests from largely asymptomatic
people

What did it produce? A massive lift in testing. Perhaps that was the goal given positives are in many ways a function of the numbers tested with 0.11% of tests producing positives in NSW (I’ll include a link to verify this to avoid further false allegations)

https://covidlive.com.au/nsw

 

[TillLindemann]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

Can you explain why you think restricting the movement of people, would NOT correspondingly restrict the spread of covid?

If John Smith is infected in Avalon, and he was planning to travel to the CBD but it is not allowed to do so, why would that restriction NOT make a difference?

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

Can you explain why you think restricting the movement of people, would NOT correspondingly restrict the spread of covid?

If John Smith is infected in Avalon, and he was planning to travel to the CBD but it is not allowed to do so, why would that restriction NOT make a difference?

If John Smith was asymptomatic it wouldn’t make a difference as there is no transmission from asymptomatic people

People with symptoms should stay home just like if you’ve got the flu to avoid infecting others, that’s the way we’ve done it for years

No need in my view to lockdown the almost 300,000 living here

 

[TillLindemann]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

Can you explain why you think restricting the movement of people, would NOT correspondingly restrict the spread of covid?

If John Smith is infected in Avalon, and he was planning to travel to the CBD but it is not allowed to do so, why would that restriction NOT make a difference?

If John Smith was asymptomatic it wouldn’t make a difference as there is no transmission from asymptomatic people

People with symptoms should stay home just like if you’ve got the flu to avoid infecting others, that’s the way we’ve done it for years

No need in my view to lockdown the almost 300,000 living here

That's incorrect, there is plenty of evidence for asymptomatic transmission.

And there's also plenty of people who won't voluntarily stay home even when they have symptoms.

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

Can you explain why you think restricting the movement of people, would NOT correspondingly restrict the spread of covid?

If John Smith is infected in Avalon, and he was planning to travel to the CBD but it is not allowed to do so, why would that restriction NOT make a difference?

If John Smith was asymptomatic it wouldn’t make a difference as there is no transmission from asymptomatic people

People with symptoms should stay home just like if you’ve got the flu to avoid infecting others, that’s the way we’ve done it for years

No need in my view to lockdown the almost 300,000 living here

That's incorrect, there is plenty of evidence for asymptomatic transmission.

And there's also plenty of people who won't voluntarily stay home even when they have symptoms.

There are also studies that say it doesn’t

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/asymptomatic-transmission-of-covid-19-didnt-occur-at-all-study-of-10-million-finds

https://gript.ie/british-medical-journal-covid-study-finds-no-evidence-of-asymptomatic-transmission/

 

[TrueTiger]

In my opinion,if people adhere to the lockdowns put in place to protect the rest of the community by medical and govt experts,,,they do work.....the problem I have seen many times,because I work in the hospitality industry,is the arrogance and stupidity of some people who have the "I dont care if I get it,its just a flu",I want to go and enjoy myself,have a beer,go to mates places etc,without even considering the effect it can have on the rest of the community...
SELFISH...IGNORANT...STUPID....is why some of the covid reared its ugly head again in places...

 

[Hangonaminute]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

So what do they think was the reason for the reduction in cases in Melbourne?

I don't know, you'll have to ask them

 

[Guest]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

swap hands.

 

[Guest]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

Given that the Avalon cluster ended up in Berala I'd say the experts you're listening to wouldn't know how to find the emergency exit on an aircraft.

 

[Hangonaminute]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

What experts? Certainly no virologist or microbiologist I know would agree. Lockdowns work when the population complies and you stop importing the virus.

So it shouldn't be too hard to show me the evidence of your claim.
Saying "look at Victoria" isn't evidence

 

[Guest]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

Can you explain why you think restricting the movement of people, would NOT correspondingly restrict the spread of covid?

If John Smith is infected in Avalon, and he was planning to travel to the CBD but it is not allowed to do so, why would that restriction NOT make a difference?

If John Smith was asymptomatic it wouldn’t make a difference as there is no transmission from asymptomatic people

People with symptoms should stay home just like if you’ve got the flu to avoid infecting others, that’s the way we’ve done it for years

No need in my view to lockdown the almost 300,000 living here

That's incorrect, there is plenty of evidence for asymptomatic transmission.

And there's also plenty of people who won't voluntarily stay home even when they have symptoms.

There are also studies that say it doesn’t

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/asymptomatic-transmission-of-covid-19-didnt-occur-at-all-study-of-10-million-finds

https://gript.ie/british-medical-journal-covid-study-finds-no-evidence-of-asymptomatic-transmission/

Wouldn't believe a thing coming out of China in relation to COVID. They've dodged, lied and buried plenty of people during this shambles which they created.

 

[mike]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

What experts? Certainly no virologist or microbiologist I know would agree. Lockdowns work when the population complies and you stop importing the virus.

So it shouldn't be too hard to show me the evidence of your claim.
Saying "look at Victoria" isn't evidence

It absolutely is evidence. They locked down Victoria. Virus was stomped on its head and no more community transmission down from 100s a day as a result of lockdowns. You can ignore hard evidence all you like and cherry pick our own but the bottom line is lockdowns work. Exactly what is the field of expertise of the experts you refer to. Is it health? Pandemic response?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Experts who have taken the time to look at data from lockdowns have discovered that they don’t appear to stop the spread of COVID-19. In fact, when experts compared the data, it appears that lockdowns made no difference at all.

What experts? Certainly no virologist or microbiologist I know would agree. Lockdowns work when the population complies and you stop importing the virus.

So it shouldn't be too hard to show me the evidence of your claim.
Saying "look at Victoria" isn't evidence

It is evidence. Same as NZ.

I doubt anywhere in the world had a lockdown as strict as Victoria, and they stalled a daily case rate into the 100's.

Has anywhere else gone to that extent? Limited/cancelled overseas arrivals? Hotel quarantine in place? Had a generally compliant population? Mask mandates?

 

[happy_tiger]

You blokes almost found a cure yet ??

 

[mike]

You blokes almost found a cure yet ??

It’s called vaccinations.