Coronavirus Outbreak

[Spud_Murphy]

AstraZeneca vaccine to be discontinued after October 2021. All over 60s are expected to be vaccinated by end October 2021.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-likely-won-t-use-astrazeneca-after-october-except-by-request-20210623-p583n6.html

So how much money did scomo waste on this snake oil ?


I notice Scammo didnt have the AZ vaccine.

Neither did that stupid cow from Queensland

All the pollies probably had placebos. Can’t give some experimental jab to our illustrious leaders, surely?

 

[Demps]

Had my second dose of Pfizer yesterday and it had knocked me around.

How were you after the first jab? I'm getting my first Monday.

First I was fine, second really struggled

Really struggled how @cochise?
Seems like it may effect you youngsters more than old dinosaurs like me, but I havent had my 2nd AZ jab yet.
My niece who just recently turned 50 was knocked around for about a week after her 2nd AZ jab.

I don't want to put people off getting the jab, but it knocked me around for about 4 days.

About 12 hours after my 2nd dose I started with headaches and cognitive foggyness. I really couldn't think straight for about 2 days, I also had blurred vision on the 1st night.

Then just tiredness headaches and feeling off for about 4 days. Today is really the 1st day I have felt 100%

WOW!!! At least you can relax now knowing you are fully immunised.

I also didn't rest as I had a big couple of days at work so that probably didn't help.

WOW!!! you like to push yourself don't you :+1: :facepunch:

No just busy mate, actually over the 6 day and 50 plus hour weeks I am working atm

You had better go to bed Cochise if you want your beard to keep growing :grin: .

I only sleep about 5 hours a night lol

Not good mate.
Have you tried any supplements to improve this?

 

[Spud_Murphy]

AstraZeneca vaccine to be discontinued after October 2021. All over 60s are expected to be vaccinated by end October 2021.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-likely-won-t-use-astrazeneca-after-october-except-by-request-20210623-p583n6.html

So how much money did scomo waste on this snake oil ?


I notice Scammo didnt have the AZ vaccine.

Neither did that stupid cow from Queensland


Which one,there a few up there who qualify for that title?

Palaszsuck

Are you serious??

Gee, we've moved a long way in acknowleding successful women leaders, haven't we @hobbo1 ?

It might not suit your befuddled understanding of the world, but she recently led Labor to another election win in QLD. Like it or loathe it, she did.

But, apparently, in the enlightened and intelligent world of @hobbo1, she's a cow.

Seriously?? Disgraceful.

She’s a disgrace ..
She only interested in her own backyard..
As I said she’s a stupid cow !
Typical labour

Aren’t they all? Isn’t that the job of being the Premier of a state.

 

[Demps]

AstraZeneca vaccine to be discontinued after October 2021. All over 60s are expected to be vaccinated by end October 2021.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-likely-won-t-use-astrazeneca-after-october-except-by-request-20210623-p583n6.html

So how much money did scomo waste on this snake oil ?


I notice Scammo didnt have the AZ vaccine.

Neither did that stupid cow from Queensland


Which one,there a few up there who qualify for that title?

Palaszsuck

Are you serious??

Gee, we've moved a long way in acknowleding successful women leaders, haven't we @hobbo1 ?

It might not suit your befuddled understanding of the world, but she recently led Labor to another election win in QLD. Like it or loathe it, she did.

But, apparently, in the enlightened and intelligent world of @hobbo1, she's a cow.

Seriously?? Disgraceful.

She’s a disgrace ..
She only interested in her own backyard..
As I said she’s a stupid cow !
Typical labour

Aren’t they all? Isn’t that the job of being the Premier of a state.

?

@Tiger-Tragic , I think it'd be the same if she was a he... politics mate, touchy subject.

Don't take it to heart.

Hope you're doing well.
⭐?

 

[Demps]

AstraZeneca vaccine to be discontinued after October 2021. All over 60s are expected to be vaccinated by end October 2021.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-likely-won-t-use-astrazeneca-after-october-except-by-request-20210623-p583n6.html

So how much money did scomo waste on this snake oil ?


I notice Scammo didnt have the AZ vaccine.

Neither did that stupid cow from Queensland


Which one,there a few up there who qualify for that title?

Palaszsuck

Are you serious??

Gee, we've moved a long way in acknowleding successful women leaders, haven't we @hobbo1 ?

It might not suit your befuddled understanding of the world, but she recently led Labor to another election win in QLD. Like it or loathe it, she did.

But, apparently, in the enlightened and intelligent world of @hobbo1, she's a cow.

Seriously?? Disgraceful.

She’s a disgrace ..
She only interested in her own backyard..
As I said she’s a stupid cow !
Typical labour

Aren’t they all? Isn’t that the job of being the Premier of a state.

?

@Tiger-Tragic , I think it'd be the same if she was a he... politics mate, touchy subject.

Don't take it to heart.

Hope you're doing well.
⭐?

Don't patronise me with that rubbish. Weren't you banned recently? I don't think I need to learn anything from you.

I'm not trying to teach you anything, lol
You having a rough night man?

Don't forget, there's always some one on here who is willing to listen. Doesn't have to be me...

You vote Labor?
Anyway, it's all good.
I'm not down to argue over the topic, just hope ya doing well cos I've seen a few posts from you tonight and they're a bit on the negative side.

Stay blessed, fam.
Go the tigers!

 

[Spud_Murphy]

Had my second dose of Pfizer yesterday and it had knocked me around.

How were you after the first jab? I'm getting my first Monday.

First I was fine, second really struggled

Really struggled how @cochise?
Seems like it may effect you youngsters more than old dinosaurs like me, but I havent had my 2nd AZ jab yet.
My niece who just recently turned 50 was knocked around for about a week after her 2nd AZ jab.

I don't want to put people off getting the jab, but it knocked me around for about 4 days.

About 12 hours after my 2nd dose I started with headaches and cognitive foggyness. I really couldn't think straight for about 2 days, I also had blurred vision on the 1st night.

Then just tiredness headaches and feeling off for about 4 days. Today is really the 1st day I have felt 100%

I feel for you mate - I have friends at work who experienced similar symptoms from the second Pfizer shot. I was surprisingly ok - nothing more than feeling tired the next day and by dinner time, I was back to normal.

I would still recommend people to get the vaccine. It didn't change my opinion on that at all.


Agreed - its an imperative IMHO

I am now fully vaccinated and had virtually zero side effects. My wife - mild to moderate for one day - everyone's immune system responds differently to all vaccines - it just fact. **Still completely outweighs any downsides (statistically speaking )**

Unless you’re the family of one of the people who have died or been adversely affected by the ‘jab’

 

[cochise]

Had my second dose of Pfizer yesterday and it had knocked me around.

How were you after the first jab? I'm getting my first Monday.

First I was fine, second really struggled

Really struggled how @cochise?
Seems like it may effect you youngsters more than old dinosaurs like me, but I havent had my 2nd AZ jab yet.
My niece who just recently turned 50 was knocked around for about a week after her 2nd AZ jab.

I don't want to put people off getting the jab, but it knocked me around for about 4 days.

About 12 hours after my 2nd dose I started with headaches and cognitive foggyness. I really couldn't think straight for about 2 days, I also had blurred vision on the 1st night.

Then just tiredness headaches and feeling off for about 4 days. Today is really the 1st day I have felt 100%

WOW!!! At least you can relax now knowing you are fully immunised.

I also didn't rest as I had a big couple of days at work so that probably didn't help.

WOW!!! you like to push yourself don't you :+1: :facepunch:

No just busy mate, actually over the 6 day and 50 plus hour weeks I am working atm

You had better go to bed Cochise if you want your beard to keep growing :grin: .

I only sleep about 5 hours a night lol

Not good mate.
Have you tried any supplements to improve this?

I don't have trouble sleeping and am not tired. I hit the pillow, go to sleep, wake about around 5 hours later refreshed for the day.

 

[Demps]

Had my second dose of Pfizer yesterday and it had knocked me around.

How were you after the first jab? I'm getting my first Monday.

First I was fine, second really struggled

Really struggled how @cochise?
Seems like it may effect you youngsters more than old dinosaurs like me, but I havent had my 2nd AZ jab yet.
My niece who just recently turned 50 was knocked around for about a week after her 2nd AZ jab.

I don't want to put people off getting the jab, but it knocked me around for about 4 days.

About 12 hours after my 2nd dose I started with headaches and cognitive foggyness. I really couldn't think straight for about 2 days, I also had blurred vision on the 1st night.

Then just tiredness headaches and feeling off for about 4 days. Today is really the 1st day I have felt 100%

WOW!!! At least you can relax now knowing you are fully immunised.

I also didn't rest as I had a big couple of days at work so that probably didn't help.

WOW!!! you like to push yourself don't you :+1: :facepunch:

No just busy mate, actually over the 6 day and 50 plus hour weeks I am working atm

You had better go to bed Cochise if you want your beard to keep growing :grin: .

I only sleep about 5 hours a night lol

Not good mate.
Have you tried any supplements to improve this?

I don't have trouble sleeping and am not tired. I hit the pillow, go to sleep, wake about around 5 hours later refreshed for the day.

Whatever works man.
I saw The Rock and Kevin Hart, who are workaholics say they function on 2 hours and 5 hours is a luxury if it ever happens.

If 5 is a good baseline for you then that's good.
Some good natural supps out if you ever wanna step it up though but yeah, if it ain't broke... as they say.

Stay safe bra

 

[hobbo1]

AstraZeneca vaccine to be discontinued after October 2021. All over 60s are expected to be vaccinated by end October 2021.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-likely-won-t-use-astrazeneca-after-october-except-by-request-20210623-p583n6.html

So how much money did scomo waste on this snake oil ?


I notice Scammo didnt have the AZ vaccine.

Neither did that stupid cow from Queensland


Which one,there a few up there who qualify for that title?

Palaszsuck

Are you serious??

Gee, we've moved a long way in acknowleding successful women leaders, haven't we @hobbo1 ?

It might not suit your befuddled understanding of the world, but she recently led Labor to another election win in QLD. Like it or loathe it, she did.

But, apparently, in the enlightened and intelligent world of @hobbo1, she's a cow.

Seriously?? Disgraceful.

She’s a disgrace ..
She only interested in her own backyard..
As I said she’s a stupid cow !
Typical labour

I don't care what you said. It's a disgraceful comment in this day and age. But, hey, maybe you're from the age of women being subservient (yes, I know that word's probably beyond your intellect) to the entited male leaders of the world. Guess what @hobbo1 the times have changed and you're now irrelevant.

And, FFS, it's Labor not labour.

Don't bother replying. It's pitiful.

You obviously care deeply what I said otherwise you wouldn’t have got your panties all bunched..
She’s a stupid cow and she’s ruining her own economy and the livelihoods of millions of people and the same goes for the Victards down south!

PC brigade that way ➡️

 

[TillLindemann]

New restrictions in place from 4pm this arvo

And here we go again.... ?

We have been playing Russian roulette with this virus for 18 months now this outcome doesn’t surprise me unfortunately

100% mate. Every time this rubbish starts up again I wind up fuming. I just find it absolutely mind-dumbing that we aren’t doing more in locking the entire country down from the outside until this is over.

I feel like a broken record. Give them a chance to get home via the miliatary or bulk flights, if they reject, they tough luck and best wishes. Until someone shows some balls, this virus will resurface for years to come.

I’m self-employed and have a partner and mortgage to pay. These idiots running the show have absolutely no idea. Their planning is completely reactive and will continue to be time and time again. The economy and unemployment will continue to go to the pits. People will continue to suffer, people will probably continue to die and it’s all because of return travellers.

We wouldn’t need a vaccine if we stopped the return travellers or pick the last of them up who want to return home and plant them on a purpose built facility/unused barracks, whatever, until they are clear.

We wouldn’t even need to talk about these sceptical “vaccines” that are still in trial stages and pushed through. We could afford to wait for a vaccine that’s proven to actually work and safe from any side affects, but no....open the doors Scomo. Put them in the CBD’s. What could go wrong.

We can't wait for a delayed vaccine rollout, we need it now, that would be economic disaster as all other countries reengage we will be sitting here isolated.

Despite their choices I believe all Australians should be able to return home at anytime.

If they are allowed to leave, then they must be able to return upon meeting the conditions agreed on departure.

Why should the rights of a small number of travellers Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the interests of the whole country? Over and over again people coming in from overseas leads to outbreaks, leads to more strain on the health system (= unnecessary deaths), more people losing jobs, more businesses failing, more debt, more depression and anxiety.

Travelling through international borders is a luxury, not an inviolable human right. It should go without saying that during wars, pandemics etc people can't just come and go across borders as they please.

Until we have a highly vaccinated population, we need hard international borders.

 

[mike]

New restrictions in place from 4pm this arvo

And here we go again.... ?

We have been playing Russian roulette with this virus for 18 months now this outcome doesn’t surprise me unfortunately

100% mate. Every time this rubbish starts up again I wind up fuming. I just find it absolutely mind-dumbing that we aren’t doing more in locking the entire country down from the outside until this is over.

I feel like a broken record. Give them a chance to get home via the miliatary or bulk flights, if they reject, they tough luck and best wishes. Until someone shows some balls, this virus will resurface for years to come.

I’m self-employed and have a partner and mortgage to pay. These idiots running the show have absolutely no idea. Their planning is completely reactive and will continue to be time and time again. The economy and unemployment will continue to go to the pits. People will continue to suffer, people will probably continue to die and it’s all because of return travellers.

We wouldn’t need a vaccine if we stopped the return travellers or pick the last of them up who want to return home and plant them on a purpose built facility/unused barracks, whatever, until they are clear.

We wouldn’t even need to talk about these sceptical “vaccines” that are still in trial stages and pushed through. We could afford to wait for a vaccine that’s proven to actually work and safe from any side affects, but no....open the doors Scomo. Put them in the CBD’s. What could go wrong.

We can't wait for a delayed vaccine rollout, we need it now, that would be economic disaster as all other countries reengage we will be sitting here isolated.

Despite their choices I believe all Australians should be able to return home at anytime.

If they are allowed to leave, then they must be able to return upon meeting the conditions agreed on departure.

Why should the rights of a small number of travellers Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the interests of the whole country? Over and over again people coming in from overseas leads to outbreaks, leads to more strain on the health system (= unnecessary deaths), more people losing jobs, more businesses failing, more debt, more depression and anxiety.

Travelling through international borders is a luxury, not an inviolable human right. It should go without saying that during wars, pandemics etc people can't just come and go across borders as they please.

Until we have a highly vaccinated population, we need hard international borders.

That’s not what your passport says.

 

[cochise]

New restrictions in place from 4pm this arvo

And here we go again.... ?

We have been playing Russian roulette with this virus for 18 months now this outcome doesn’t surprise me unfortunately

100% mate. Every time this rubbish starts up again I wind up fuming. I just find it absolutely mind-dumbing that we aren’t doing more in locking the entire country down from the outside until this is over.

I feel like a broken record. Give them a chance to get home via the miliatary or bulk flights, if they reject, they tough luck and best wishes. Until someone shows some balls, this virus will resurface for years to come.

I’m self-employed and have a partner and mortgage to pay. These idiots running the show have absolutely no idea. Their planning is completely reactive and will continue to be time and time again. The economy and unemployment will continue to go to the pits. People will continue to suffer, people will probably continue to die and it’s all because of return travellers.

We wouldn’t need a vaccine if we stopped the return travellers or pick the last of them up who want to return home and plant them on a purpose built facility/unused barracks, whatever, until they are clear.

We wouldn’t even need to talk about these sceptical “vaccines” that are still in trial stages and pushed through. We could afford to wait for a vaccine that’s proven to actually work and safe from any side affects, but no....open the doors Scomo. Put them in the CBD’s. What could go wrong.

We can't wait for a delayed vaccine rollout, we need it now, that would be economic disaster as all other countries reengage we will be sitting here isolated.

Despite their choices I believe all Australians should be able to return home at anytime.

If they are allowed to leave, then they must be able to return upon meeting the conditions agreed on departure.

Why should the rights of a small number of travellers Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the interests of the whole country? Over and over again people coming in from overseas leads to outbreaks, leads to more strain on the health system (= unnecessary deaths), more people losing jobs, more businesses failing, more debt, more depression and anxiety.

Travelling through international borders is a luxury, not an inviolable human right. It should go without saying that during wars, pandemics etc people can't just come and go across borders as they please.

Until we have a highly vaccinated population, we need hard international borders.

Even during those time I believe in an Australian's right to return home, in fact it is probably the most important time to maintain that right.

 

[cochise]

Guys knock it off or posts will be deleted.

 

[TillLindemann]

New restrictions in place from 4pm this arvo

And here we go again.... ?

We have been playing Russian roulette with this virus for 18 months now this outcome doesn’t surprise me unfortunately

100% mate. Every time this rubbish starts up again I wind up fuming. I just find it absolutely mind-dumbing that we aren’t doing more in locking the entire country down from the outside until this is over.

I feel like a broken record. Give them a chance to get home via the miliatary or bulk flights, if they reject, they tough luck and best wishes. Until someone shows some balls, this virus will resurface for years to come.

I’m self-employed and have a partner and mortgage to pay. These idiots running the show have absolutely no idea. Their planning is completely reactive and will continue to be time and time again. The economy and unemployment will continue to go to the pits. People will continue to suffer, people will probably continue to die and it’s all because of return travellers.

We wouldn’t need a vaccine if we stopped the return travellers or pick the last of them up who want to return home and plant them on a purpose built facility/unused barracks, whatever, until they are clear.

We wouldn’t even need to talk about these sceptical “vaccines” that are still in trial stages and pushed through. We could afford to wait for a vaccine that’s proven to actually work and safe from any side affects, but no....open the doors Scomo. Put them in the CBD’s. What could go wrong.

We can't wait for a delayed vaccine rollout, we need it now, that would be economic disaster as all other countries reengage we will be sitting here isolated.

Despite their choices I believe all Australians should be able to return home at anytime.

If they are allowed to leave, then they must be able to return upon meeting the conditions agreed on departure.

Why should the rights of a small number of travellers Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the interests of the whole country? Over and over again people coming in from overseas leads to outbreaks, leads to more strain on the health system (= unnecessary deaths), more people losing jobs, more businesses failing, more debt, more depression and anxiety.

Travelling through international borders is a luxury, not an inviolable human right. It should go without saying that during wars, pandemics etc people can't just come and go across borders as they please.

Until we have a highly vaccinated population, we need hard international borders.

That’s not what your passport says.

But it's the reality of the world we live in right now. In a disaster situation, be it war, pandemic, natural disaster, different rules apply, as should be expected. On September 11 2001 people couldn't just jump on a plane and travel, regardless of what their passport said.

 

[cochise]

New restrictions in place from 4pm this arvo

And here we go again.... ?

We have been playing Russian roulette with this virus for 18 months now this outcome doesn’t surprise me unfortunately

100% mate. Every time this rubbish starts up again I wind up fuming. I just find it absolutely mind-dumbing that we aren’t doing more in locking the entire country down from the outside until this is over.

I feel like a broken record. Give them a chance to get home via the miliatary or bulk flights, if they reject, they tough luck and best wishes. Until someone shows some balls, this virus will resurface for years to come.

I’m self-employed and have a partner and mortgage to pay. These idiots running the show have absolutely no idea. Their planning is completely reactive and will continue to be time and time again. The economy and unemployment will continue to go to the pits. People will continue to suffer, people will probably continue to die and it’s all because of return travellers.

We wouldn’t need a vaccine if we stopped the return travellers or pick the last of them up who want to return home and plant them on a purpose built facility/unused barracks, whatever, until they are clear.

We wouldn’t even need to talk about these sceptical “vaccines” that are still in trial stages and pushed through. We could afford to wait for a vaccine that’s proven to actually work and safe from any side affects, but no....open the doors Scomo. Put them in the CBD’s. What could go wrong.

We can't wait for a delayed vaccine rollout, we need it now, that would be economic disaster as all other countries reengage we will be sitting here isolated.

Despite their choices I believe all Australians should be able to return home at anytime.

If they are allowed to leave, then they must be able to return upon meeting the conditions agreed on departure.

Why should the rights of a small number of travellers Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the interests of the whole country? Over and over again people coming in from overseas leads to outbreaks, leads to more strain on the health system (= unnecessary deaths), more people losing jobs, more businesses failing, more debt, more depression and anxiety.

Travelling through international borders is a luxury, not an inviolable human right. It should go without saying that during wars, pandemics etc people can't just come and go across borders as they please.

Until we have a highly vaccinated population, we need hard international borders.

That’s not what your passport says.

But it's the reality of the world we live in right now. In a disaster situation, be it war, pandemic, natural disaster, different rules apply, as should be expected. On September 11 2001 people couldn't just jump on a plane and travel, regardless of what their passport said.

We didn't stop people from returning home.

 

[Tim Sheens]

New restrictions in place from 4pm this arvo

And here we go again.... ?

We have been playing Russian roulette with this virus for 18 months now this outcome doesn’t surprise me unfortunately

100% mate. Every time this rubbish starts up again I wind up fuming. I just find it absolutely mind-dumbing that we aren’t doing more in locking the entire country down from the outside until this is over.

I feel like a broken record. Give them a chance to get home via the miliatary or bulk flights, if they reject, they tough luck and best wishes. Until someone shows some balls, this virus will resurface for years to come.

I’m self-employed and have a partner and mortgage to pay. These idiots running the show have absolutely no idea. Their planning is completely reactive and will continue to be time and time again. The economy and unemployment will continue to go to the pits. People will continue to suffer, people will probably continue to die and it’s all because of return travellers.

We wouldn’t need a vaccine if we stopped the return travellers or pick the last of them up who want to return home and plant them on a purpose built facility/unused barracks, whatever, until they are clear.

We wouldn’t even need to talk about these sceptical “vaccines” that are still in trial stages and pushed through. We could afford to wait for a vaccine that’s proven to actually work and safe from any side affects, but no....open the doors Scomo. Put them in the CBD’s. What could go wrong.

We can't wait for a delayed vaccine rollout, we need it now, that would be economic disaster as all other countries reengage we will be sitting here isolated.

Despite their choices I believe all Australians should be able to return home at anytime.

If they are allowed to leave, then they must be able to return upon meeting the conditions agreed on departure.

Why should the rights of a small number of travellers Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the interests of the whole country? Over and over again people coming in from overseas leads to outbreaks, leads to more strain on the health system (= unnecessary deaths), more people losing jobs, more businesses failing, more debt, more depression and anxiety.

Travelling through international borders is a luxury, not an inviolable human right. It should go without saying that during wars, pandemics etc people can't just come and go across borders as they please.

Until we have a highly vaccinated population, we need hard international borders.

Simple, the government created the criteria and must respect it, just like any deal made or even a bet. Terms must be adhered to and anyone from say tomorrow if the rules are changed, then has to abide by the agreement to rules of the day.

Bottom line is anyone with half a brain has known for a year or longer that quarantine needed to be done properly and hotels were not the solution.

Sure, China hid a lot of what was happening, but they had hospitals built in a couple of weeks, whilst our federal government is still quibbling over even just sorting out plans for what will still likely be state run suitable quarantine facilities 18 bloody months on.

 

[TillLindemann]

New restrictions in place from 4pm this arvo

And here we go again.... ?

We have been playing Russian roulette with this virus for 18 months now this outcome doesn’t surprise me unfortunately

100% mate. Every time this rubbish starts up again I wind up fuming. I just find it absolutely mind-dumbing that we aren’t doing more in locking the entire country down from the outside until this is over.

I feel like a broken record. Give them a chance to get home via the miliatary or bulk flights, if they reject, they tough luck and best wishes. Until someone shows some balls, this virus will resurface for years to come.

I’m self-employed and have a partner and mortgage to pay. These idiots running the show have absolutely no idea. Their planning is completely reactive and will continue to be time and time again. The economy and unemployment will continue to go to the pits. People will continue to suffer, people will probably continue to die and it’s all because of return travellers.

We wouldn’t need a vaccine if we stopped the return travellers or pick the last of them up who want to return home and plant them on a purpose built facility/unused barracks, whatever, until they are clear.

We wouldn’t even need to talk about these sceptical “vaccines” that are still in trial stages and pushed through. We could afford to wait for a vaccine that’s proven to actually work and safe from any side affects, but no....open the doors Scomo. Put them in the CBD’s. What could go wrong.

We can't wait for a delayed vaccine rollout, we need it now, that would be economic disaster as all other countries reengage we will be sitting here isolated.

Despite their choices I believe all Australians should be able to return home at anytime.

If they are allowed to leave, then they must be able to return upon meeting the conditions agreed on departure.

Why should the rights of a small number of travellers Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon the interests of the whole country? Over and over again people coming in from overseas leads to outbreaks, leads to more strain on the health system (= unnecessary deaths), more people losing jobs, more businesses failing, more debt, more depression and anxiety.

Travelling through international borders is a luxury, not an inviolable human right. It should go without saying that during wars, pandemics etc people can't just come and go across borders as they please.

Until we have a highly vaccinated population, we need hard international borders.

Simple, the government created the criteria and must respect it, just like any deal made or even a bet. Terms must be adhered to and anyone from say tomorrow if the rules are changed, then has to abide by the agreement to rules of the day.

Bottom line is anyone with half a brain has known for a year or longer that quarantine needed to be done properly and hotels were not the solution.

Sure, China hid a lot of what was happening, but they had hospitals built in a couple of weeks, whilst our federal government is still quibbling over even just sorting out plans for what will still likely be state run suitable quarantine facilities 18 bloody months on.

I agree the government should have done more with proper quarantine facilities and better vaccine rollout, but in their absence, our country can not cope with the current number of arrivals and it is leading directly to unnecessary deaths and despair.