Coronavirus Outbreak

[swag_tiger]

There's actually very little if any impact on the CO2 when you wear a mask. But if you want to stand by your narrative then I'm not going to try to start another argument.

1. Oxygen and CO2 particles are small enough to get though a mask
2. Droplets are larger so hence a stopped.

 

[swag_tiger]

https://uihc.org/health-topics/do-face-masks-make-you-retain-carbon-dioxide

Face masks do not decrease your oxygen intake
They also do not make you retain more carbon dioxide than usual
Oxygen and CO2 are very small, so they can easily pass through a face mask
Droplets are much larger in comparison, and they cannot pass easily through a face mask

 

[swag_tiger]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858372/
More concerning than comforting to me
Conclusions:
Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of elevated CO2 levels with long-term use of face masks needs further studies. Use of PAPR prevents relative hypercapnoea. However, whether PAPR should be advocated for healthcare workers requiring PPE for extended hours needs to evaluated in further studies.

The 2 articles underneath say other wise.

I’m sure we can trade articles and sources and some of mine will no doubt have been debunked, that’s the way this nonsense works

I’ll trust my instincts

We can agree to disagree, I respect your view

I'm just saying if you looked at the next 4 articles they would debunk your instincts.

 

[Tiger Beach]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858372/
More concerning than comforting to me
Conclusions:
Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of elevated CO2 levels with long-term use of face masks needs further studies. Use of PAPR prevents relative hypercapnoea. However, whether PAPR should be advocated for healthcare workers requiring PPE for extended hours needs to evaluated in further studies.

The 2 articles underneath say other wise.

I’m sure we can trade articles and sources and some of mine will no doubt have been debunked, that’s the way this nonsense works

I’ll trust my instincts

We can agree to disagree, I respect your view

I'm just saying if you looked at the next 4 articles they would debunk your instincts.

People need to trust their instincts, it’s the voice of your higher self and it will serve you well
I’ll trust it over the paid opinions of vested interests

You can choose otherwise if you wish

 

[swag_tiger]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858372/
More concerning than comforting to me
Conclusions:
Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of elevated CO2 levels with long-term use of face masks needs further studies. Use of PAPR prevents relative hypercapnoea. However, whether PAPR should be advocated for healthcare workers requiring PPE for extended hours needs to evaluated in further studies.

The 2 articles underneath say other wise.

I’m sure we can trade articles and sources and some of mine will no doubt have been debunked, that’s the way this nonsense works

I’ll trust my instincts

We can agree to disagree, I respect your view

I'm just saying if you looked at the next 4 articles they would debunk your instincts.

People need to trust their instincts, it’s the voice of your higher self and it will serve you well
I’ll trust it over the paid opinions of vested interests

You can choose otherwise if you wish

Well I guess you have to grin and stick that mask on.

 

[Tiger Beach]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858372/
More concerning than comforting to me
Conclusions:
Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of elevated CO2 levels with long-term use of face masks needs further studies. Use of PAPR prevents relative hypercapnoea. However, whether PAPR should be advocated for healthcare workers requiring PPE for extended hours needs to evaluated in further studies.

The 2 articles underneath say other wise.

I’m sure we can trade articles and sources and some of mine will no doubt have been debunked, that’s the way this nonsense works

I’ll trust my instincts

We can agree to disagree, I respect your view

I'm just saying if you looked at the next 4 articles they would debunk your instincts.

People need to trust their instincts, it’s the voice of your higher self and it will serve you well
I’ll trust it over the paid opinions of vested interests

You can choose otherwise if you wish

Well I guess you have to grin and stick that mask on.

You guess wrong, thankfully I have an exemption

 

[hank37w]

Does anyone think there could be someone driving around regional NSW with covid having a dump into their various sewerage systems? An arsonist maybe. Waiting for a conspiracy theorist to jump on this one.

Had to laugh when I saw that - an ARSE-ONIST having a DUMP.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Credit to the people at Lakemba. The queue outside the Mosque, which is set up as a vaccination centre, was huge at 6:30am the other day. Stretched as far as the eye could see.

Yeah, news that balances the situation. Just like elsewhere, the vast majority are doing their bit for the common good.

The “Common good” is not always just that

There’s been no shortage of literature based around the dangers of collectivism

I support the rights of the individual

Why is collectivism bad in this context? Forget about what literature may say in some abstract context and try to actually apply the principles. Do you in all circumstances support the rights of the individual over the collective good?

Collectivism assumes it knows better and is willing to trample the individual to achieve its ends. That is why I don’t agree with what is going on currently

As in all things absolutes aren’t appropriate so no I don’t in all circumstances. The answer as in most cases in life is, it depends

Good thing collectivism probably won't be applied then, hey? People who choose not to vaccinate won't be forced to, but they'll be disenfranchised and marginalised so that they don't pose a risk to others.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858372/
More concerning than comforting to me
Conclusions:
Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of elevated CO2 levels with long-term use of face masks needs further studies. Use of PAPR prevents relative hypercapnoea. However, whether PAPR should be advocated for healthcare workers requiring PPE for extended hours needs to evaluated in further studies.

The 2 articles underneath say other wise.

I’m sure we can trade articles and sources and some of mine will no doubt have been debunked, that’s the way this nonsense works

I’ll trust my instincts

We can agree to disagree, I respect your view

I'm just saying if you looked at the next 4 articles they would debunk your instincts.

People need to trust their instincts, it’s the voice of your higher self and it will serve you well
I’ll trust it over the paid opinions of vested interests

You can choose otherwise if you wish

Well I guess you have to grin and stick that mask on.

You guess wrong, thankfully I have an exemption

Imagine being scared of a mask

 

[Tiger Beach]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858372/
More concerning than comforting to me
Conclusions:
Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of elevated CO2 levels with long-term use of face masks needs further studies. Use of PAPR prevents relative hypercapnoea. However, whether PAPR should be advocated for healthcare workers requiring PPE for extended hours needs to evaluated in further studies.

The 2 articles underneath say other wise.

I’m sure we can trade articles and sources and some of mine will no doubt have been debunked, that’s the way this nonsense works

I’ll trust my instincts

We can agree to disagree, I respect your view

I'm just saying if you looked at the next 4 articles they would debunk your instincts.

People need to trust their instincts, it’s the voice of your higher self and it will serve you well
I’ll trust it over the paid opinions of vested interests

You can choose otherwise if you wish

Well I guess you have to grin and stick that mask on.

You guess wrong, thankfully I have an exemption

Imagine being scared of a mask

Positivity and compassion will serve you better than negativity and judgement, but you have to choose that path

 

[GNR4LIFE]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33858372/
More concerning than comforting to me
Conclusions:
Although, significant increase in CO2 concentrations are noted with routinely used face-masks, the levels still remain within the NIOSH limits for short-term use. Therefore, there should not be a concern in their regular day-to-day use for healthcare providers. The clinical implications of elevated CO2 levels with long-term use of face masks needs further studies. Use of PAPR prevents relative hypercapnoea. However, whether PAPR should be advocated for healthcare workers requiring PPE for extended hours needs to evaluated in further studies.

The 2 articles underneath say other wise.

I’m sure we can trade articles and sources and some of mine will no doubt have been debunked, that’s the way this nonsense works

I’ll trust my instincts

We can agree to disagree, I respect your view

I'm just saying if you looked at the next 4 articles they would debunk your instincts.

People need to trust their instincts, it’s the voice of your higher self and it will serve you well
I’ll trust it over the paid opinions of vested interests

You can choose otherwise if you wish

Well I guess you have to grin and stick that mask on.

You guess wrong, thankfully I have an exemption

Imagine being scared of a mask

Positivity and compassion will serve you better than negativity and judgement, but you have to choose that path

Yeah, I can’t hear you up there on your high horse.

 

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[TillLindemann]

I thought this was a very nice gesture

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-13/300kg-of-beef-donated-to-struggling-families-in-sydney-lockdown/100367594

 

[Tim Sheens]

So 390 and still rising. Meanwhile as those cases were compiled, we had Hazzard continually not allowing Dr Chant to speak when questioned by the committee yesterday.

Has she resigned, as rumours abound that she is at the end of her rope and sick of being thrown under the bus?

 

[pawsandclaws1]

So 390 and still rising. Meanwhile as those cases were compiled, we had Hazzard continually not allowing Dr Chant to speak when questioned by the committee yesterday.

Has she resigned, as rumours abound that she is at the end of her rope and sick of being thrown under the bus?

Not only does it continue to spread, it has spread to our indigenous communities. This is a very concerning development.

 

[Guest]

So 390 and still rising. Meanwhile as those cases were compiled, we had Hazzard continually not allowing Dr Chant to speak when questioned by the committee yesterday.

Has she resigned, as rumours abound that she is at the end of her rope and sick of being thrown under the bus?

Hazzard has gagged her because her advice is contrary to the tripe coming out of his mouth right now. You've got a state govt who cannot communicate properly at the moment, and it's showing in the advice being given.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Speaking of fantasy land, Craig Laundy interviewed this morning about those who have received both vaccines being able to attend hotels in September!

 

[TrueTiger]

Just found out that 2 motels and Maccas at Mittagong have put us on high alert because of travellers being positive with covid...we have been lucky up here in the Southern Highlands,but I think our luck is about to run out...
Traces of the virus has also been picked up in the sewerage system as well....
I dont think it will be long now until the entire state may be in lockdown for a few more weeks....if only people would do the right thing as well as the state govt being more assertive and stricter in the earlier days of this spread,then possibly we wouldnt be in this position we are in ...
Im no expert,but I will have to go on the disaster relief program to survive if they close up my workplace for the betterment of the community......best thing I can say to all affected at the moment is""be strong,stay safe and lets try and get out of this thing together the best we can....
sidenote...if things are getting tough PLEASE reach out because there is plenty of help and friends out there and in particular this forum if people need to talk,worse thing to do is bottle it up.....God bless...

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Speaking of fantasy land, Craig Laundy interviewed this morning about those who have received both vaccines being able to attend hotels in September!

Yes, and that wouldn't be laced in self interest by Laundy, would it?

 

[Tim Sheens]

So 390 and still rising. Meanwhile as those cases were compiled, we had Hazzard continually not allowing Dr Chant to speak when questioned by the committee yesterday.

Has she resigned, as rumours abound that she is at the end of her rope and sick of being thrown under the bus?

Hazzard has gagged her because her advice is contrary to the tripe coming out of his mouth right now. You've got a state govt who cannot communicate properly at the moment, and it's showing in the advice being given.

Dr Chant has obviously long been concerned, as three weeks ago with about a third of the daily cases, she declared her thoughts on it being a national emergency. Instead we have had an LGA based approach as some things have been opened back up as it spreads far and wide.

To any of my brothers and sisters most recently forced to join in this lockdown, keep your chins up and I hope that yours is only short and sharp so that you are spared the same result as those around me.