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Interestingly to me is that when I tried to look up information on kids there wasn't much. That SMH article uses the paper that I provided a link too in the past couple of days.

I'm not using dodgy data or reports when I'm giving out information. I'm not using edge case science that doesn't pass the sniff test.

I always think you should speak to your GP or specialist if you have some specific edge case scenario or you aren't confident.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455387) said:
Interestingly to me is that when I tried to look up information on kids there wasn't much. That SMH article uses the paper that I provided a link too in the past couple of days.

I'm not using dodgy data or reports when I'm giving out information. I'm not using edge case science that doesn't pass the sniff test.

I always think you should speak to your GP or specialist if you have some specific edge case scenario or you aren't confident.

You gotta use something other than google

Try duck duck go
🤫
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455370) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455368) said:
@geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455367) said:
Earl's a Banker..

After hours

I would hope most do their banking afterhours.

I think his point is I get paid to do this. He is right. It's crazy.

I have a mate who gets paid a bomb and all he does is go to the pub. The lockdowns have put a stop on that.
 
@demps said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455389) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455387) said:
Interestingly to me is that when I tried to look up information on kids there wasn't much. That SMH article uses the paper that I provided a link too in the past couple of days.

I'm not using dodgy data or reports when I'm giving out information. I'm not using edge case science that doesn't pass the sniff test.

I always think you should speak to your GP or specialist if you have some specific edge case scenario or you aren't confident.

You gotta use something other than google

Try duck duck go
?

Mate - doesn't everyone use Duck Duck go.
 
That article also raises a key point now and that is vaccines for lower risk individuals

>But Professor Booy, from the Children’s Hospital at Westmead, views the Murdoch institute’s position as unfair and inequitable. Just 1.4 per cent of people in low-income countries have received a jab, according to ourworldindata.com. There are not enough vaccines for everyone in the world to get one until 2023, according to one projection; every vaccine given to an Australian child is one less that can be given to, say, a nurse or doctor in Indonesia.

This is a really tough topic.

This comes back to immunity not being a simplistic situation. It's black and white from the data now for the majority of people to get a double dose vaccine but it's not so simple post that point.
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455325) said:
@hank37w said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455309) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455175) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455171) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455167) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455158) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455155) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455153) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455149) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455142) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455139) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455135) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455130) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455115) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455102) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455088) said:
Wow....I cant wait for my first shot in two weeks....:scream:

5 weeks and you can have a picnic with up to five members of your fully vaccinated household.

So the one member who isnt vaccinated has to be segregated from their family function because thats what the police state expects....so much for peoples free choice....and Im not an anti vaxxer...just a person who thinks a person in this country has freedom of choice....

They do have freedom of choice, they chose not to be vaccinated.

So in saying that,they exercised their right of free choice but the Govt segregates them because they dont follow their rule....

Xi Ping at its best....

How is it different to people not being allowed to smoke in public places?

We know the hazzards of smoking,it has been proven over many,many tests and years....this vax is a medication to alliviate the severity of covid,if your vaxed you can still infect others and get sick from it...when we got vaxed against polio etc ,it was proven to stop the disease ...these mRna vaxes havent been 100 percent proven to stop infection as well as the effects after years of it being injected...
just saying not causing an argument...its my opinion and as far as I know Im still allowed that...

We know the hazards of Covid too

As do I ....I can read the news and watch interviews of people that have had it...

Then you must know that some of the long term effects include, heart damage, brain damage and liver damage.

As with drinking,smoking,drug taking....the regular flue kills as well.although this is a novel virus,at least they developed a flu vax over many years...

The drinking, smoking and drug taking are self inflicted, we reduce people's rights around areas of those actions that impact others. You can't drink drive for example.

I can as long as I stay under the limit...

And you can go to the park if you are vaccinated.

. . . . . . . and have a 1 hour picnic with fully vaccinated members of your family unless of course you are from an LGA of concern in which case you can go and get stuffed.

You don't understand the restrictions, the people in the LGAs of concern can go for 1 hour recreation (picnic) with members or your family. Outside the LGAs of concern people can meet up in groups of up to 5 for their recreation. In both situations all adults need to be vaccinated.

Woopy-doo.

I have been able to have a picnic and engage in recreational activities with members of my family on my 5 acre property whether they are vaccinated or not, for as long as I want, regardless of curfews.

Gladys is a joke, she has been promising people all these freedoms for the last week or two and comes up with this crap, why even mention it in the first place and build peoples expectations up.

It really makes very little difference to me, but I think a lot of people were really hoping for something a little more substantial that would make a difference in their lives.

She really needs to think before she opens her smug gold standard mouth, just like when she makes stupid comments about us not knowing how to build trains or ferries in Australia, however, we seem to be able to step up to the mark pretty well when it comes to rectifying the sub standard garbage that was built overseas, even if it is at a great expense.

I think before all this she has shown how poor her judgement has been in failing to ensure that basic health orders were enforced and not locking down the Eastern Suburbs when she had the chance and even before all this, the fact that she had a relationship with a failed politician/conman Daryl Maguire has to have you questioning her judgement.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455375) said:
@geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455367) said:
Earl's a Banker..

IT for a big bank. I work with data. I used to program but now I manage. It's nearly as easy as being a traddie.

What’s a traddie ?
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455401) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455375) said:
@geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455367) said:
Earl's a Banker..

IT for a big bank. I work with data. I used to program but now I manage. It's nearly as easy as being a tradie.

What’s a tradie ?

It's a type of profession where people don't do much work. Just like mine.

Sorry - I corrected the spelling.
 
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455402) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455401) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455375) said:
@geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455367) said:
Earl's a Banker..

IT for a big bank. I work with data. I used to program but now I manage. It's nearly as easy as being a tradie.

What’s a tradie ?

It's a type of profession where people don't do much work. Just like mine.

Sorry - I corrected the spelling.

I work my arse off thanks
 
@hank37w said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455400) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455325) said:
@hank37w said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455309) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455175) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455171) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455167) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455158) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455155) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455153) said:
@swag_tiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455149) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455142) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455139) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455135) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455130) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455115) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455102) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455088) said:
Wow....I cant wait for my first shot in two weeks....:scream:

5 weeks and you can have a picnic with up to five members of your fully vaccinated household.

So the one member who isnt vaccinated has to be segregated from their family function because thats what the police state expects....so much for peoples free choice....and Im not an anti vaxxer...just a person who thinks a person in this country has freedom of choice....

They do have freedom of choice, they chose not to be vaccinated.

So in saying that,they exercised their right of free choice but the Govt segregates them because they dont follow their rule....

Xi Ping at its best....

How is it different to people not being allowed to smoke in public places?

We know the hazzards of smoking,it has been proven over many,many tests and years....this vax is a medication to alliviate the severity of covid,if your vaxed you can still infect others and get sick from it...when we got vaxed against polio etc ,it was proven to stop the disease ...these mRna vaxes havent been 100 percent proven to stop infection as well as the effects after years of it being injected...
just saying not causing an argument...its my opinion and as far as I know Im still allowed that...

We know the hazards of Covid too

As do I ....I can read the news and watch interviews of people that have had it...

Then you must know that some of the long term effects include, heart damage, brain damage and liver damage.

As with drinking,smoking,drug taking....the regular flue kills as well.although this is a novel virus,at least they developed a flu vax over many years...

The drinking, smoking and drug taking are self inflicted, we reduce people's rights around areas of those actions that impact others. You can't drink drive for example.

I can as long as I stay under the limit...

And you can go to the park if you are vaccinated.

. . . . . . . and have a 1 hour picnic with fully vaccinated members of your family unless of course you are from an LGA of concern in which case you can go and get stuffed.

You don't understand the restrictions, the people in the LGAs of concern can go for 1 hour recreation (picnic) with members or your family. Outside the LGAs of concern people can meet up in groups of up to 5 for their recreation. In both situations all adults need to be vaccinated.

Woopy-doo.

I have been able to have a picnic and engage in recreational activities with members of my family on my 5 acre property whether they are vaccinated or not, for as long as I want, regardless of curfews.

Gladys is a joke, she has been promising people all these freedoms for the last week or two and comes up with this crap, why even mention it in the first place and build peoples expectations up.

It really makes very little difference to me, but I think a lot of people were really hoping for something a little more substantial that would make a difference in their lives.

She really needs to think before she opens her smug gold standard mouth, just like when she makes stupid comments about us not knowing how to build trains or ferries in Australia, however, we seem to be able to step up to the mark pretty well when it comes to rectifying the sub standard garbage that was built overseas, even if it is at a great expense.

I think before all this she has shown how poor her judgement has been in failing to ensure that basic health orders were enforced and not locking down the Eastern Suburbs when she had the chance and even before all this, the fact that she had a relationship with a failed politician/conman Daryl Maguire has to have you questioning her judgement.

I wasn't commenting on the quality of the freedoms? I was highlighting what they actually were after you misstated them.

I will however say that my 8 year old will enjoy getting out of the house and heading to a park to have some lunch.
 
Got to feel for the kids not being with their mates and not being able to go to school.

Most of the young ones love their teachers and must miss them and their friends a lot.
 
@hank37w said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455408) said:
Got to feel for the kids not being with their mates and not being able to go to school.

Most of the young ones love their teachers and must miss them and their friends a lot.

And kids sports
 
@hank37w said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455400) said:
Gladys is a joke, she has been promising people all these freedoms for the last week or two and comes up with this crap, why even mention it in the first place and build peoples expectations up.

I'm interested in what people think of the change in restrictions. My impression is that people believe when we get to the target vaccination rates restrictions won't exist.

My understanding is that the Delta is so contagious that post reaching really high vaccination levels some restrictions will still be required.

This was in my opinion a pretty tiny change in restrictions. I live in a locked down LGA. I'm doubly vaccinated and I go out for a daily walk with a mask on. I think it's completely stupid. There is no medical reason for it. It's a compliance issue and Dr Chant has clearly stated this.

My take though on the restrictions is that Gladys isn't driving much. I think it's NSW Health led by Dr Chant. I accept there is other input but NSW health are the key players and rightly so.

Restrictions to me though can only stay really strict for so long.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455404) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455402) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455401) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455375) said:
@geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455367) said:
Earl's a Banker..

IT for a big bank. I work with data. I used to program but now I manage. It's nearly as easy as being a tradie.

What’s a tradie ?

It's a type of profession where people don't do much work. Just like mine.

Sorry - I corrected the spelling.

I work my arse off thanks

Maybe try using the brushes and rollers more...lot less painful.....:disappointed_relieved:
 
@wildcat777 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1454983) said:
Ok then we can focus on the next problem…..Wests Tigers to make semi’s and win GF. That my friends is more difficult.

That will take a lot more than a Jab.
 
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455412) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455404) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455402) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455401) said:
@earl said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455375) said:
@geo said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455367) said:
Earl's a Banker..

IT for a big bank. I work with data. I used to program but now I manage. It's nearly as easy as being a tradie.

What’s a tradie ?

It's a type of profession where people don't do much work. Just like mine.

Sorry - I corrected the spelling.

I work my arse off thanks

Maybe try using the brushes and rollers more...lot less painful.....:disappointed_relieved:

?
 
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455321) said:
@trusted_insider said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455229) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455163) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455147) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455142) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455139) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455135) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455130) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455115) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455102) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455088) said:
Wow....I cant wait for my first shot in two weeks....:scream:

5 weeks and you can have a picnic with up to five members of your fully vaccinated household.

So the one member who isnt vaccinated has to be segregated from their family function because thats what the police state expects....so much for peoples free choice....and Im not an anti vaxxer...just a person who thinks a person in this country has freedom of choice....

They do have freedom of choice, they chose not to be vaccinated.

So in saying that,they exercised their right of free choice but the Govt segregates them because they dont follow their rule....

Xi Ping at its best....

How is it different to people not being allowed to smoke in public places?

We know the hazzards of smoking,it has been proven over many,many tests and years....this vax is a medication to alliviate the severity of covid,if your vaxed you can still infect others and get sick from it...when we got vaxed against polio etc ,it was proven to stop the disease ...these mRna vaxes havent been 100 percent proven to stop infection as well as the effects after years of it being injected...
just saying not causing an argument...its my opinion and as far as I know Im still allowed that...

AZ could still be an option if your doctor agrees.

Exactly right FG,it is the vax of choice if I get the ultimatum of "no jab no job" which I hope it doesnt come to...
You and I have met and have had good conversations...your advice is to leave it up to my Dr which I want to do,especially that I have had a history of blood clotting...
you must understand my hesitation...it wasnt pleasant dealing with tests and blood thinners 3/4 times a week for 3/4 months...
Im not an anti vaxer...I just want to do whats right for me,as others have chosen to do the same for themselves...

I provided information cited from the Federal Health Department about a week ago outlining that your previous clotting issue was not a contraindication for receiving **either** of the available vaccines, yet you're still banging on about this.

Roll on the vaccine passports.

He should follow the advice of his doctor, not some random on a footy website.

He won’t care about either because ‘Ozmg my choice!’

Like I said, roll on the vax passports and societal exclusions.
 
@trusted_insider said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455419) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455321) said:
@trusted_insider said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455229) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455163) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455147) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455142) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455139) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455135) said:
@cochise said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455130) said:
@truetiger said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455115) said:
@formerguest said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455102) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Coronavirus Outbreak](/post/1455088) said:
Wow....I cant wait for my first shot in two weeks....:scream:

5 weeks and you can have a picnic with up to five members of your fully vaccinated household.

So the one member who isnt vaccinated has to be segregated from their family function because thats what the police state expects....so much for peoples free choice....and Im not an anti vaxxer...just a person who thinks a person in this country has freedom of choice....

They do have freedom of choice, they chose not to be vaccinated.

So in saying that,they exercised their right of free choice but the Govt segregates them because they dont follow their rule....

Xi Ping at its best....

How is it different to people not being allowed to smoke in public places?

We know the hazzards of smoking,it has been proven over many,many tests and years....this vax is a medication to alliviate the severity of covid,if your vaxed you can still infect others and get sick from it...when we got vaxed against polio etc ,it was proven to stop the disease ...these mRna vaxes havent been 100 percent proven to stop infection as well as the effects after years of it being injected...
just saying not causing an argument...its my opinion and as far as I know Im still allowed that...

AZ could still be an option if your doctor agrees.

Exactly right FG,it is the vax of choice if I get the ultimatum of "no jab no job" which I hope it doesnt come to...
You and I have met and have had good conversations...your advice is to leave it up to my Dr which I want to do,especially that I have had a history of blood clotting...
you must understand my hesitation...it wasnt pleasant dealing with tests and blood thinners 3/4 times a week for 3/4 months...
Im not an anti vaxer...I just want to do whats right for me,as others have chosen to do the same for themselves...

I provided information cited from the Federal Health Department about a week ago outlining that your previous clotting issue was not a contraindication for receiving **either** of the available vaccines, yet you're still banging on about this.

Roll on the vaccine passports.

He should follow the advice of his doctor, not some random on a footy website.

He won’t care about either because ‘Ozmg my choice!’

Like I said, roll on the vax passports and societal exclusions.

I know @TrueTiger reasonably well, I think he is willing to get vaxxed but its worried about his health.
 
I've just finished having a heart to heart with my eldest son about his hesitancy to receive a vaccination. His girlfriend is against vaccination and feeds him her views. I said to him he should respect his girlfriend's views and in return she should respect his. He will be vaccinated tomorrow and I will go with him just to give him moral support.

His cousin is a nurse manager (matron) at a hospital and she had a good chat to him last night about it.
 
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