@Sabre said:
Agree on all accounts.
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Agree on all accounts.
happy_tiger
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The other thing is currently on Cricket legends on Fox Sports that Crash Craddock interviews Mitchell Johnson
I think Johnson is a good player , but giving him legend status ….... don't think so
What do others think ??
I think Johnson is a good player , but giving him legend status ….... don't think so
What do others think ??
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Kohli run out for 59.
Kohli run out for 59.
@happy tiger said:
Not a legend, but certainly respectable career. Could have been even better if he bedded down his technique earlier in his career.
happy_tiger
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@Cultured Bogan said:
Have to agree CB and his story was interesting
not sure about a Legend, but he will go down in folk-law as being a menacing fast bowler.
He wasn't as consistent as a Lillie or McGrath…and i'd rank others in the modern era ahead of him. However he was the spearhead of our attack for a few years... and did destroy a number of touring teams.
He was also a big part of us winning a couple of away tours of South Africa. When MJ was on song he brought the excitement factor back into fast bowling.
When England were out here last time he was angry and wanted to blast them out. Beautiful to watch. Considering they had hung so much crap on him. I remember being up out of the seat cheering him on and loving it. sometimes he had so much pace he was unplayable. Yes he had his problems and sometimes lacked confidence.
He never a privileged ride into top level cricket or access to academy's as a kid. He was discovered by Lillie at a camp up North and they tried to fast track his development. He would have been better if they found that piece of metal in his foot earlier, from his days running around barefoot as a kid. Once it was eventually removed he was such a better bowler.
He wasn't as consistent as a Lillie or McGrath…and i'd rank others in the modern era ahead of him. However he was the spearhead of our attack for a few years... and did destroy a number of touring teams.
He was also a big part of us winning a couple of away tours of South Africa. When MJ was on song he brought the excitement factor back into fast bowling.
When England were out here last time he was angry and wanted to blast them out. Beautiful to watch. Considering they had hung so much crap on him. I remember being up out of the seat cheering him on and loving it. sometimes he had so much pace he was unplayable. Yes he had his problems and sometimes lacked confidence.
He never a privileged ride into top level cricket or access to academy's as a kid. He was discovered by Lillie at a camp up North and they tried to fast track his development. He would have been better if they found that piece of metal in his foot earlier, from his days running around barefoot as a kid. Once it was eventually removed he was such a better bowler.
GNR4LIFE
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A legend is someone who can bowl or bat in any conditions, not just the conditions best suited to them. Johnson couldn't do that, he was a flat track bully. Look at his record in England and the Sub Continent.
Fade_To_Black
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Agree, he was a one trick pony. Fast but all over the shop like a mad woman's brekkie for most of his career .
Records will show that he carved out a decent career but IMO he was very fortunate to have his career when he did- bowling against far superior batsmen of the 1980's he would of been flogged to every boundary on the park. Carrying on like a tool probably did him no favours also.
Crash Craddock gets wood over the guy when he speaks of him so it was probably his idea to give him legend status.
Records will show that he carved out a decent career but IMO he was very fortunate to have his career when he did- bowling against far superior batsmen of the 1980's he would of been flogged to every boundary on the park. Carrying on like a tool probably did him no favours also.
Crash Craddock gets wood over the guy when he speaks of him so it was probably his idea to give him legend status.
innsaneink
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Will Rahane get a ton?
innsaneink
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@innsaneink said:
:wink:
Marshall_magic
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What Johnson did in the 12/13 Ashes series was incredible. He's a bowler who at his best was unplayable, and at his worst was absolute rubbish. I don't think he is a legend because he often needed the other bowlers around him to help build the pressure. He was often at his worst when he had to lead the attack (in 12/13 he had Ryan Harris to really help build the pressure on the batsmen).
GNR4LIFE
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@Tigerdon said:
Flat track bully means conditions that only suited him.
GNR4LIFE
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@stryker said:
Again, the term flat track bully is a metaphor. You can use it to describe a football team that only ever beat weaker teams than struggle once they play stiffer opposition . It's got nothing to do with the pitch being flat.
I always associated the term "flat track bully" with batsmen who couldn't perform on wickets where the ball moved.
happy_tiger
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I would suggest that the Wests Tigers are the flat track bullied in many situations