Cricket Season Thread

[Tiger_Steve]

Sorry to say, the solution is not as simple as dropping player X and promoting player Y. The system has failed and needs an overheaul. And every batsman who has come through the system has been affected. In the last 10 years, Australia has only produced 2 true world class batsmen (Smith and Warner). The rest have made up the numbers. It’s actually probably closer to 15, as the only other 2 I can think of Are Clarke and M Hussey back in the mid 00’s. It’s not going to solve anything bringing Burns or Lehman, or whoever else in, because the results will be the same. The problems run deeper. The slate needs to be wiped clean, with a stronger emphasis on 4 day cricket.

I agree with your last comment. Sheffield Shield should be the breeding ground to get our future Test players ready for Test cricket. It was for years but I think the standard has been poor for the past 10 years at least. When I first started following cricket our Test players played in most of the Sheffield Shield games. I remember watching Bobby Simpson score double and triple hundreds for NSW. Now they don't play any Shield games or maybe one at best. As a consequence the Shield has dropped in standard and doesn't bring the good players along as it once did.

So if we go deeper - the reason this is now the case is heavy scheduling at international level. Interestingly, the team that has sold out most fully to the 20 over game is India yet they are currently the best test team on the planet. Just luck or strategy? What are they doing that we aren’t?

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Sorry to say, the solution is not as simple as dropping player X and promoting player Y. The system has failed and needs an overheaul. And every batsman who has come through the system has been affected. In the last 10 years, Australia has only produced 2 true world class batsmen (Smith and Warner). The rest have made up the numbers. It’s actually probably closer to 15, as the only other 2 I can think of Are Clarke and M Hussey back in the mid 00’s. It’s not going to solve anything bringing Burns or Lehman, or whoever else in, because the results will be the same. The problems run deeper. The slate needs to be wiped clean, with a stronger emphasis on 4 day cricket.

I agree with your last comment. Sheffield Shield should be the breeding ground to get our future Test players ready for Test cricket. It was for years but I think the standard has been poor for the past 10 years at least. When I first started following cricket our Test players played in most of the Sheffield Shield games. I remember watching Bobby Simpson score double and triple hundreds for NSW. Now they don't play any Shield games or maybe one at best. As a consequence the Shield has dropped in standard and doesn't bring the good players along as it once did.

You can trace the downfall of Australia producing world class batsmen, pretty simulataniously with 20/20 taking off a decade ago. If they toned the BBL crap that now goes for nearly 3 months, and played more Shield, then you might see a change. It won’t though, the BBL is a golden goose. So expect the batting at Test level to continue to be mediocre.

 

[Yossarian]

Sorry to say, the solution is not as simple as dropping player X and promoting player Y. The system has failed and needs an overheaul. And every batsman who has come through the system has been affected. In the last 10 years, Australia has only produced 2 true world class batsmen (Smith and Warner). The rest have made up the numbers. It’s actually probably closer to 15, as the only other 2 I can think of Are Clarke and M Hussey back in the mid 00’s. It’s not going to solve anything bringing Burns or Lehman, or whoever else in, because the results will be the same. The problems run deeper. The slate needs to be wiped clean, with a stronger emphasis on 4 day cricket.

Maybe but people like Burns or Jake Lehman/Kurtis Patterson must shake their heads at the chances given to the Marshes. The latter two at least have some track record in making first class cricket.

 

[maxxy86]

If Australia lose this test (which is likely) the series is gone. I would make changes for the Sydney test & Sri Lanka series is a chance to blood some youth.

Burns or Hughes in for Finch, Labuschagne could replace M Marsh at the SCG, Patterson/Pucovski/Lehman/Weatherald could be considered to replace Shaun Marsh. I would even prefer Maxwell to him.

If things get desperate, we could always recall Hilton Cartwright.

In all honesty, Australian cricket is really in a rut. When you look at Shield cricket, the majority of innings this year (even when test players were available) have seen totals of less than 300 posted.

Really glad you’ve mentioned H Cartwright….could see him battting 5 or 6 and bowling some overs aswell.

I was actually joking. I can't understand how he ever got selected.

He is averaging 25 in 1st class cricket this year over 11 innings (including 84 not out) & has bowled 11 overs. If looking for an all-rounder, I would consider Stoinis or Wildermuth ahead of him.

Tests he av25 with the bat but first class it’s 37 with the bat and 36 with the ball

 

[Wagga_Tiger]

Sorry to say, the solution is not as simple as dropping player X and promoting player Y. The system has failed and needs an overheaul. And every batsman who has come through the system has been affected. In the last 10 years, Australia has only produced 2 true world class batsmen (Smith and Warner). The rest have made up the numbers. It’s actually probably closer to 15, as the only other 2 I can think of Are Clarke and M Hussey back in the mid 00’s. It’s not going to solve anything bringing Burns or Lehman, or whoever else in, because the results will be the same. The problems run deeper. The slate needs to be wiped clean, with a stronger emphasis on 4 day cricket.

Agree with every thing you said except the Warner thing, he’s not world class and was lucky to play test cricket. If the system wasn’t broken he may not have played test cricket.
20/20 is killing the game and the rubbish they are playing on isn’t helping. It’s time we got back to our cricket grounds being cricket grounds again, none of these drop in pitches and the poorAFL players can go back to skinning their knees on the pitch.

 

[jadtiger]

Sorry to say, the solution is not as simple as dropping player X and promoting player Y. The system has failed and needs an overheaul. And every batsman who has come through the system has been affected. In the last 10 years, Australia has only produced 2 true world class batsmen (Smith and Warner). The rest have made up the numbers. It’s actually probably closer to 15, as the only other 2 I can think of Are Clarke and M Hussey back in the mid 00’s. It’s not going to solve anything bringing Burns or Lehman, or whoever else in, because the results will be the same. The problems run deeper. The slate needs to be wiped clean, with a stronger emphasis on 4 day cricket.

Agree with every thing you said except the Warner thing, he’s not world class and was lucky to play test cricket. If the system wasn’t broken he may not have played test cricket.
20/20 is killing the game and the rubbish they are playing on isn’t helping. It’s time we got back to our cricket grounds being cricket grounds again, none of these drop in pitches and the poorAFL players can go back to skinning their knees on the pitch.

Completely agree the hit and giggle has done an awful amount of harm to cricket and the ACB are responsible for most of this just chasing the dollar.T20 has its place but it should only represent about 5% of the cricket package imo

 

[GNR4LIFE]

How about these idiot commentators claiming the MCG booed Mitch Marsh because he replaced a Victorian in Handscomb. Has to be an excuse, easier than flat out acknowledgeing that the public despise him. No one cares about Peter Handscomb. Delusional if that’s what they actually believe.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Hang your heads in shame top 7\. Cummins showing with courage and guts you can survive and thrive

 

[Yossarian]

Hang your heads in shame top 7\. Cummins showing with courage and guts you can survive and thrive

Yep put it in perspective. Only bloke from our side to pass 50 in either innings. The current test team is basically a good shield batting team with a test match bowling attack.

 

[Harvey]

Hang your heads in shame top 7\. Cummins showing with courage and guts you can survive and thrive

Yep put it in perspective. Only bloke from our side to pass 50 in either innings. The current test team is basically a good shield batting team with a test match bowling attack.

I think that describing them as a good shield batting team is a stretch. Maybe currently they could be described as slightly above average, but if you look at some of the shield sides over the last 20 years, there were a load better than the current Australian side.

 

[Yossarian]

True that Harvey.

 

[happy_tiger]

What can you say …................

Pat Cummins is a champion…

He is , we will even think more highly of him when he does a Dizzy Gillespie and scores a double century to get us home

139 more and he will get us home

If he does ScoMo should declare the 30th of December Pat Cummins Day

 

[Yossarian]

Looks like one session negotiated without a wicket!

 

[Harvey]

They need to announce the changes for the Sydnety test. I need to update my BBL supercoach team.

 

[WT2K]

Marnus Labuschagne called into the squad for Sydney Test

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Marnus Labuschagne called into the squad for Sydney Test

Fantastic - we need specialist batsmen with technique and we bring in a leg spin bowling all rounder

 

[Yossarian]

Marnus Labuschagne called into the squad for Sydney Test

Fantastic - we need specialist batsmen with technique and we bring in a leg spin bowling all rounder

We're talking about a bloke who averages 33 in shield cricket. A cricket plodder…

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Cameron Bancroft will be A. Cheered; B. Booed; C. Indifferent response????

 

[Fade_To_Black]

Cameron Bancroft will be A. Cheered; B. Booed; C. Indifferent response????

I would heartily clap Bancroft….only for the fact that he ratted out Warner.
Will be a sad day for Aussie cricket when/if Warner the little gerbil gets another gig for our country.

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Cameron Bancroft will be A. Cheered; B. Booed; C. Indifferent response????

I would heartily clap Bancroft….only for the fact that he ratted out Warner.
Will be a sad day for Aussie cricket when/if Warner the little gerbil gets another gig for our country.

He will be back the second he is available. No way he won’t be picked after the pathetic batting from our supposed top 6\. He and smith will be back for World Cup and ashes tour. I don’t like him either but I’m sure he will be back