Cricket Season Thread

[Marshall_magic]

Worth a try with Maxwell, we have nothing to lose in the Sydney test, and it is usually a very spin friendly wicket. If he succeeds it may be worth taking him to India to bat 6 and be our second spinner there. If he is a flop well then we can move onto someone else.

 

[Yossarian]

Worth a try with Maxwell, we have nothing to lose in the Sydney test, and it is usually a very spin friendly wicket. If he succeeds it may be worth taking him to India to bat 6 and be our second spinner there. If he is a flop well then we can move onto someone else.

My issue is you wouldn't pick him as a top 6 batsman nor would you pick him as the second best spinning option. From what I've seen he is a decent limited over option but I don't see him blowing any test teams apart. Then you just have a poor man's version of what you already have - Nathan Lyon.

My other issue is, as above, we've been down this road with Cam White, Steve Smith, and to a lesser extent Andrew MacDonald. This obsession the selectors have with having an allrounder is a bit much some times. Fair enough with Shane Watson and I'd possibly even buy Moises Henriques… At least they're capable of taking a bag of wickets every now and then. But White, Smith and MacDonald were as collectively as threatening as wet tissue paper.

If you're suggesting Maxwell is a better long-term batting option than Usman Khawaja then fair enough but otherwise they need to think about who they want batting in the top 6 in England and India.

 

[Jazza]

Maxwell is a decent young batsman who I would consider as one of those guys waiting in the queue for a chance in the future alongside Joe Burns, Chris Lynn, Usman Khawaja and Alex Doolan. And when I see it that way, I see Usman Khawaja as the man that should play in Sydney.

I don't consider Maxwell as an allrounder, I consider him as a batsman and when I consider him as a batsman, I consider Usman Khawaja as the better batsman. Maxwell's bowling shouldn't come into it as far as selection goes, his bowling is about as effective as Michael Clarke's in that it might break the odd partnership, but it shouldn't be considered as a major factor when the selectors look at him.

We saw what happened in the 20/20 World Cup when he was used as an allrounder and how his bowling was dealt with, it was dealt with very easily in subcontinental conditions, and he was easy prey as a bowler.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Hussey is a true example someone going out on his own terms. There's a good chance The Ashes could have coincided with a form slump which would have no doubt had the fickle Aussie public calling for his head and for him to retire. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a strategic move on his part so he can go out with his reputation intact. Probably saw what happened to Ponting as a lesson

 

[happy_tiger]

Isn't it strange how a lot of our big name cricket stars over the last 30 years have retired in clusters from Test Cricket

Marsh ,Lillee and Chappell all retired in the same season

Damian Martyn ,Warne ,McGrath ,Langer ,Gilchrist all within 12 months of each other

Now we have Ponting and Hussey

Mateship in sport is obviously important

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Maxwell is a decent young batsman who I would consider as one of those guys waiting in the queue for a chance in the future alongside Joe Burns, Chris Lynn, Usman Khawaja and Alex Doolan. And when I see it that way, I see Usman Khawaja as the man that should play in Sydney.

I don't consider Maxwell as an allrounder, I consider him as a batsman and when I consider him as a batsman, I consider Usman Khawaja as the better batsman. Maxwell's bowling shouldn't come into it as far as selection goes, his bowling is about as effective as Michael Clarke's in that it might break the odd partnership, but it shouldn't be considered as a major factor when the selectors look at him.

We saw what happened in the 20/20 World Cup when he was used as an allrounder and how his bowling was dealt with, it was dealt with very easily in subcontinental conditions, and he was easy prey as a bowler.

Maxwell will get his chance, as will most of those you've mentioned above. With the rotation policy and players getting injured at an alarming rate, it's only a matter of time now. Don't know what the hell Kountouris (sp?) is doing with the team.

Does anyone else feel that the rotation policy and injuries have somewhat cheapened the importance of the baggy green? 15-20 years ago you had to earn it, now it just seems like you have to wait your turn.

 

[innsaneink]

Isn't it strange how a lot of our big name cricket stars over the last 30 years have retired in clusters from Test Cricket

Marsh ,Lillee and Chappell all retired in the same season

Damian Martyn ,Warne ,McGrath ,Langer ,Gilchrist all within 12 months of each other

Now we have Ponting and Hussey

Mateship in sport is obviously important

I dont think mateship has much to do with retirements.
I think the clusters you mention….maybe when one goes it gets others in a similar position more seriously considering it.

Does anyone else feel that the rotation policy and injuries have somewhat cheapened the importance of the baggy green? 15-20 years ago you had to earn it, now it just seems like you have to wait your turn.

Definitely...it seems to be change for the sake of change

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Vernon Philendar with a 5fer in the first 45 mins of the test match against NZ. Guarantee thats never happened before

 

[Yossarian]

7/34 the Kiwis… Ugly stuff...

 

[Yossarian]

NZ 9/45 with Chris Martin in. Looks like they won't survive the first session.

 

[Juro]

Couldn't believe it when they showed the betting prices at lunch on day 4\. Australia needed 130 runs to win, Sri Lanka needed 9 wickets. And the price for the draw? $1000.

Hope nobody was stupid enough to take that…

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Couldn't believe it when they showed the betting prices at lunch on day 4\. Australia needed 130 runs to win, Sri Lanka needed 9 wickets. And the price for the draw? $1000.

Hope nobody was stupid enough to take that…

Stranger things have happened Juro.

I know the last Test was a dead rubber and such, but it left me with a hollow feeling. Without Hussey and Ponting in India the lads will really need to be on their game and more importantly, the selectors must pick the best eleven for each match. It will be interesting to see whether Maxwell will get a run and whether they will persist with a bowling allrounder at seven. The selectors have been rather unpredictable of late.

Nonetheless, I am looking forward to the Indian tour and seeing the next step in our rebuilding period.

 

[Peaches]

I too am looking forward to the upcoming tours. Spots are up for grabs and opportunities need to be taken. It will be good to see who stands up.
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[tig_prmz]

anyone see the warne vs samuels??

stupid act from samuels and even a bigger brain fart from warne.

 

[Bazzinator]

for me there will be 16 players taken to India next month for me i would like to see this squad taken over

1\. Warner
2\. Cowan
3\. Hughes
4\. Watson
5\. Clarke
6\. Wade
7\. Maxwell
8\. Johnson
9\. Siddle
10\. Lyon
11\. Beer

12\. Haddin (Back Up Batsmen and Keeper added experience around the squad)
13\. Khawaja
14\. Pattinson
15\. Starc
16\. Bird

If Watson was 100% fit to bowl i could definetly see them playing only 2 front line seamers after seeing what England did recently over there

 

[Marshall_magic]

anyone see the warne vs samuels??

stupid act from samuels and even a bigger brain fart from warne.

I liked it. Added some colour to an otherwise bland competition.

Just on the big bash, surely the Thunder rival GWS and the Suns for the title of worst professional sporting team in Australia, they are a dead set joke. Apart from Khawaja, Nannes and Gayle would anyone else get a start at another team? Even Gayle has been very poor this season (apart from tonight). They are basically a team of shield rejects.

 

[happy_tiger]

Twenty20 is crap cricket as far as I'm concerned and the only good thing about it is the revenue it provides

How is this a test in any way to the players involved

Test Cricket is exactly that

A Test of your skills ,determination ,will , how far you will go for your team andyour team mates

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

anyone see the warne vs samuels??

stupid act from samuels and even a bigger brain fart from warne.

I liked it. Added some colour to an otherwise bland competition.

Just on the big bash, surely the Thunder rival GWS and the Suns for the title of worst professional sporting team in Australia, they are a dead set joke. Apart from Khawaja, Nannes and Gayle would anyone else get a start at another team? Even Gayle has been very poor this season (apart from tonight). They are basically a team of shield rejects.

They have been infuriating to watch, but they have unearthed a couple of decent bowlers in Adam Zampa and Chris Tremain, they're only young and will benefit from the experience and can only get better. It seems like the Thunder sit back and wait on all the other clubs to poach the good talent and pick up the scraps and sign one big name Aussie and a big name visa. How Mark Cosgrove has played any form of professional cricket is completely beyond me… He wouldn't look out of place playing 9th grade in the Nepean District comp.

 

[Glen_McWilliams]

Cosgrove is ideal for the Lancashire or Durham leagues. Plenty of rain delays and comfort food.

Matt Prior was awful for the Thunder. Gayle was on fire last night until Prior decided to hog the strike for 16 balls and 7 runs then get out. By this time Gayle is off the boil. Momentum is vital in short games like this and he handed it back to the stars. A player of Test level should not find it hard to nudge a single and get off strike. Not that he seemed to care much. Actually most of the team seemed to have a Balotelli look about them all tournament.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Samuals should have smashed his plastic face into a thousand pieces