Cricket Season Thread

@GNR4LIFE said:
@citizen cub said:
Gonna need an absolute miracle if it's not to be a draw….Already looking forward to the return bout in November now.

I for one agree with Boof/Faulkner and hope the Australian public give it to this arrogant, smug bunch of wankers **(Broad being a standout)** from the word go. For mine watching us lose to these guys is almost as painful as watching my Tiges lose.

On the series itself, funnily enough the end result makes for worse reading than the 2010-11 Ashes (3-1) though that series we copped 3 demoralising innings defeats and were largely outplayed at Brisbane for the draw. In this series, Australia could've very easily been 3-1 up with favourable weather/patient, solid batting.

How is what Broad did any different to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhtdQHrAPaE

And as far as England being a bunch of arrogant smug wankers, that may be true, but you gonna say the Aussie teams of the Waugh and Ponting era's didn't behave the same way? A bit of balance would be nice instead of cultural bias.

No, we're not smug or arrogant are we?

![](http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2006/12/20/1111119/519898-warnie-039-s-life-in-pictures.jpg)

Most teams behave like that when they are winning. The Indians and Aussies are shocking when they are on a hot streak.
 
well i hate england, seeing them smash us and then smash the indians in england as well as in india made me even more angry. bloody hellll
 
When England come to Australia, I hope the whole environment is hostile. The team shouldn't socialise or play nice with the English. Broad should be given the same treatment Quade Cooper got a the World Cup in NZ. Clarke needs to find some sort of Border-like-quality inside him and be a real dick to England.
 
3-0 was not a fair representation of how close the series was. We dominated both weather affected drawn matches and weren't far away from stealing that match early in the series.

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@Cultured Bogan said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@citizen cub said:
Gonna need an absolute miracle if it's not to be a draw….Already looking forward to the return bout in November now.

I for one agree with Boof/Faulkner and hope the Australian public give it to this arrogant, smug bunch of wankers **(Broad being a standout)** from the word go. For mine watching us lose to these guys is almost as painful as watching my Tiges lose.

On the series itself, funnily enough the end result makes for worse reading than the 2010-11 Ashes (3-1) though that series we copped 3 demoralising innings defeats and were largely outplayed at Brisbane for the draw. In this series, Australia could've very easily been 3-1 up with favourable weather/patient, solid batting.

How is what Broad did any different to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhtdQHrAPaE

And as far as England being a bunch of arrogant smug wankers, that may be true, but you gonna say the Aussie teams of the Waugh and Ponting era's didn't behave the same way? A bit of balance would be nice instead of cultural bias.

No, we're not smug or arrogant are we?

![](http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2006/12/20/1111119/519898-warnie-039-s-life-in-pictures.jpg)

Most teams behave like that when they are winning. The Indians and Aussies are shocking when they are on a hot streak.

Mafia agrees with all that written above we are the worst country in cricket when it comes to losing as for England being wankers I never once saw any of there players dancing with a wicket over there head like the biggest wanker warne did well done England you deserve it they played a lot better than us simple really 3-0

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@MAFIA said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
@citizen cub said:
Gonna need an absolute miracle if it's not to be a draw….Already looking forward to the return bout in November now.

I for one agree with Boof/Faulkner and hope the Australian public give it to this arrogant, smug bunch of wankers **(Broad being a standout)** from the word go. For mine watching us lose to these guys is almost as painful as watching my Tiges lose.

On the series itself, funnily enough the end result makes for worse reading than the 2010-11 Ashes (3-1) though that series we copped 3 demoralising innings defeats and were largely outplayed at Brisbane for the draw. In this series, Australia could've very easily been 3-1 up with favourable weather/patient, solid batting.

How is what Broad did any different to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhtdQHrAPaE

And as far as England being a bunch of arrogant smug wankers, that may be true, but you gonna say the Aussie teams of the Waugh and Ponting era's didn't behave the same way? A bit of balance would be nice instead of cultural bias.

No, we're not smug or arrogant are we?

![](http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2006/12/20/1111119/519898-warnie-039-s-life-in-pictures.jpg)

Most teams behave like that when they are winning. The Indians and Aussies are shocking when they are on a hot streak.

Mafia agrees with all that written above we are the worst country in cricket when it comes to losing as for England being wankers I never once saw any of there players dancing with a wicket over there head like the biggest wanker warne did well done England you deserve it they played a lot better than us simple really 3-0

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The link i posted above was from the famous SCG test against India. Michael Clarke edged to slip and stood his ground. Funny how the Aussie public get cases of selective memories when deciding to bash Stuart Broad. I find the whole thing pathetic. There isn't anything the Poms have done that the Aussies in era's past haven't.

Could you imagine the hate we'd have if one their players came out before each series and predicted clean sweeps like McGrath use to?

Double standards
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
The link i posted above was from the famous SCG test against India. Michael Clarke edged to slip and stood his ground. Funny how the Aussie public get cases of selective memories when deciding to bash Stuart Broad. I find the whole thing pathetic. There isn't anything the Poms have done that the Aussies in era's past haven't.

Could you imagine the hate we'd have if one their players came out before each series and predicted clean sweeps like McGrath use to?

Double standards

I love giving it to the Poms don't get me wrong, but I am not one to suffer the delusion that we're morally superior to them. We're just as bad, in fact we're probably worse. Our players don't walk, sledge to kingdom come and will do anything for the win. Australians (generally speaking,) are shocking when it comes to acknowledging their opposition. The English played horribly by their standards and still won 3-0\. We can bleat about the two weather affected matches and how it was ours to win but it we didn't win it, that's cricket.

Lastly, I found it funny how England was criticised for delaying tactics in the last Test, but when Clarke knew the game was in the balance he was pleading with the umpires to call it due to bad light.
 
Gee ODI squads for both Australia and England are weak

Atherton reckons the public has a right to demand a refund

Supposedly the players want a rest before the Ashes series begins

So its August 28th and they want a break until November

I'm with Atherton ,suck it up princesses you had a few days off with the washout days
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
The link i posted above was from the famous SCG test against India. Michael Clarke edged to slip and stood his ground. Funny how the Aussie public get cases of selective memories when deciding to bash Stuart Broad. I find the whole thing pathetic. There isn't anything the Poms have done that the Aussies in era's past haven't.

Could you imagine the hate we'd have if one their players came out before each series and predicted clean sweeps like McGrath use to?

Double standards

I love giving it to the Poms don't get me wrong, but I am not one to suffer the delusion that we're morally superior to them. We're just as bad, in fact we're probably worse. Our players don't walk, sledge to kingdom come and will do anything for the win. Australians (generally speaking,) are shocking when it comes to acknowledging their opposition. The English played horribly by their standards and still won 3-0\. We can bleat about the two weather affected matches and how it was ours to win but it we didn't win it, that's cricket.

Lastly, I found it funny how England was criticised for delaying tactics in the last Test, but when Clarke knew the game was in the balance he was pleading with the umpires to call it due to bad light.

Its also funny how we give it to them for having so many South African's in their side. If theres one nation that doesn't have a right to bag others for the use of ex-pats its us. Throughout sport over over the yrs, we'd have one of the highest rates of ex-pats of any country in the world. A lot of the whinging about it though has a lot to do with the fact we're losing like you said. If we were winning no one would care, but we have to find an excuse and someone to blame when we lose.
 
In regards to the Aussie batting line being settled now, well id dispute that. A settled batting line up is one that produces hundreds consistently, not just one test. Guys like Smith, Watson and Rogers still have a lot to prove. People often get caught up in flavours of the month who produce a couple good scores then flat line, like Warner, Cowen and you could throw Hughes in there as well. but they can't do it consistently. 1 test where a couple guys who needed to deliver made big scores isn't enough for me just yet to say the batting puzzle has been solved.
 
@GNR4LIFE said:
@GNR4LIFE said:
The Aussies batting isn't up to it, not over there with the Duke ball anyway,

**3-0 England**

Get that man a NEW.

Toheeys drinker….explains a bit :sunglasses:

What an incredible batting effort over night by Finch. Some of those sixes were extraordinary shots...e.g. the cut shot six when he fell away from the ball and was on one knee.

I still think 20/20 is a joke game but that was one of the better ones thats for sure.
 
Hussey raised concerns about team culture
Daniel Brettig

October 2, 2013

Michael Hussey has revealed he arranged a formal meeting with former Australia coach, Mickey Arthur, to express concern about the direction and culture of the Australian team as early as the West Indies tour in 2012, and also conceded that his concerns hastened thoughts of retirement. During the Caribbean trip, on which the tourists won the Test series 2-0, Hussey met with Arthur to outline his worries about the way the team was progressing, foreshadowing the dire results that would occur in India and England following his retirement.

A few of Hussey's points of trouble included the development of an insular team environment where players looked out for themselves and their own positions rather than pulling together for the team, and also the emergence of a tense, unhelpful atmosphere in the dressing room. In his autobiography, Underneath the Southern Cross, Hussey writes that he did not feel his concerns were adequately addressed.

"While I was in the West Indies, I became concerned at a deeper level about how I was enjoying being in the team," Hussey wrote. "My view was always that in cricket you have to be genuinely happy for your team-mates' success. If it wasn't happening, was it the team culture or was it just a few players? I was a bit nervous about that, and organised a meeting with Mickey.

"I sat down with him and and got all my concerns out in the open. 'We need to foster a culture that makes them want to think about other people and play for the team,' I said. 'Get them out of [that] insular thinking and bring in team activities. It's about caring for each other. There's too much insular thinking; about number one only.'

"Did Mickey see it as something that could be improved? In our chat, I don't think anything I said went in. Mickey definitely listened, but he was in tunnel vision mode too. He had specific things he wanted to focus on, and anything from left field didn't register. I walked away from the meeting thinking I was glad to have got it off my chest, but it didn't go anywhere.

"It was understandable how Mickey had his specific plans, and Michael [Clarke] too, but for me it was a big early warning sign that this team had problems ahead of it. We were fostering an environment where guys only cared about their positions and didn't think about the team. The dressing room became just as stressful and tense as [it was] out in the middle. It should be a sanctuary, where you can let go and have a joke with your team-mates. Our dressing room wasn't relaxed or calm, or conducive to good play. I didn't enjoy that tension, and I'm sure some of the guys weren't enjoying it."

Through the period of Clarke's captaincy and Arthur's coaching tenure, Hussey enjoyed some of the best run-scoring form of his career, but his memoir is dotted with instances of reservations about the direction the team was taking, particularly due to several of the dictates of the Argus review. Hussey also recalls how Clarke's position as a selector, a post he has now relinquished, created an atmosphere in which players were fearful of consequences should they put a single step wrong in the dressing room.

Issues with the Australian team's direction and the attitudes of individual players were to bubble to the surface in India earlier this year following Hussey's international retirement. His earlier worries were borne out in the homework saga, David Warner's misbehaviour during the Champions Trophy in England, and the sacking of Arthur immediately before the Ashes.

Michael Hussey's autobiography, Underneath the Southern Cross, is out this week.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/current/story/676155.html

Looks like it will be an interesting read and likely to have more of an effect on Australian Cricket than the Argus Report.
 
It will be interesting to see what pitches we prepare for the Poms when they come out

They have a better batting line up , consistently better quick bowlers ( we can be as good as the Poms but then offer some woeful single sessions ) and we definitely lose the spin battle

Looking at each ground

The Gabba will probably suit the Poms better

Perth will definitely suit the Poms especially if they can get the doctor to work in their favour when it reverses

MCG will be evens

Adelaide will suit the Poms

Sydney will suit the Poms the longer the Tests lasts

Not a very promising outlook Who wins the toss in Sydney ,Adelaide and even Melbourne will be crucial
 
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