Cricket Season Thread

[happy_tiger]

I think the discussion in cricket around whether there is or isn't an issue with the bouncer needs to be saved until later, at the moment we all need to be directing positive thoughts and energy towards Hughes. And also towards Sean Abbott who I'm sure is under a fair amount of distress tonight.

I don't think there are an issue with the helmets, he was just very unlucky where he got hit. Media are reporting it hit his head but it was more around his neck.

It makes you think though, I and I'm sure many others here have played plenty of cricket before, and something like that could happen to any of us. Granted we probably aren't facing the pace that Hughes was but there is such a fine line where something can go tragically wrong.

Most fair minded people would agree to leave then argument for another time, sadly your request and Inks will go unnoticed

Personally I find it sick to take up the agenda at the moment. Thoughts and prayers should only be with Hughes. Save the argument for another day.

I don't think you will find one person tonight who will not be saying a prayer for Hughes KS

My point is if you asked Phil or any of his family , as upset as they would be would want the game changed in any way

Same as asking a surfer if he wants all sharks killed if one took his leg

You do things you love because you love them warts and all

Speaking personally , if I die doing something I love I'll be a happy man

 

[westTAHger]

life is too short and very precious, and can change forever in a matter of seconds.

this very sad incident, should remind us all of that.

prayers and thoughts go out to all involved.

 

[Peaches]

I think the discussion in cricket around whether there is or isn't an issue with the bouncer needs to be saved until later, at the moment we all need to be directing positive thoughts and energy towards Hughes. And also towards Sean Abbott who I'm sure is under a fair amount of distress tonight.

I don't think there are an issue with the helmets, he was just very unlucky where he got hit. Media are reporting it hit his head but it was more around his neck.

It makes you think though, I and I'm sure many others here have played plenty of cricket before, and something like that could happen to any of us. Granted we probably aren't facing the pace that Hughes was but there is such a fine line where something can go tragically wrong.

I've been hit in the helmet facing balls at 120 km/hr. That would have been about 10 or 15 km/hr slower then what Abbott bowls on average. I've hit people in the helmet bowling a little slower then that again.

Thankfully with the development of the helmet, I haven't been concerned about serious injury though it does make you stay on your back foot a little more. Usually you shake the shock of the helmet hit off after a few minutes and you go on weary that you could get another one. There isn't suppose to be any lingering affects. What happened today, just isn't suppose to happen.

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I've been hit as a bowler, batsman smacked it back and hit me square between the eyes before I had any chance to put my hands up or get out of the way. A couple of inches in another direction and I could have been looking at something much worse.

Same for Hughesy, millimetres in another direction and we wouldn't be having this discussion, we would probably be saying how good a chance he is at a Test recall.

McKinnon is another instance of this.

The smallest of margins can have great differences.

They aren't pretty. I've copped two balls in the eye in the outfield straight through hands that were too soft. Fail! haha But I also copped one off the top of the stumps to a bloke bowling 80 km/hr when I was keeping up to him. That one hurt a bit.
Another freak injury on the pro circuit was the one that ended Mark Boucher's career a couple of years ago. Keeping up to the stumps, the ball hit the stumps and a bail went into his eye. He never kept for South Africa again and ended a very much decorated career. I'm not sure of his recovery and whether he gained the sight back. Not life threatening but a freak life-changing incident nonetheless.

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[GNR4LIFE]

I think the discussion in cricket around whether there is or isn't an issue with the bouncer needs to be saved until later, at the moment we all need to be directing positive thoughts and energy towards Hughes. And also towards Sean Abbott who I'm sure is under a fair amount of distress tonight.

I don't think there are an issue with the helmets, he was just very unlucky where he got hit. Media are reporting it hit his head but it was more around his neck.

It makes you think though, I and I'm sure many others here have played plenty of cricket before, and something like that could happen to any of us. Granted we probably aren't facing the pace that Hughes was but there is such a fine line where something can go tragically wrong.

Most fair minded people would agree to leave then argument for another time, sadly your request and Inks will go unnoticed

Personally I find it sick to take up the agenda at the moment. Thoughts and prayers should only be with Hughes. Save the argument for another day.

I don't think you will find one person tonight who will not be saying a prayer for Hughes KS

My point is if you asked Phil or any of his family , as upset as they would be would want the game changed in any way

Same as asking a surfer if he wants all sharks killed if one took his leg

You do things you love because you love them warts and all

Speaking personally , if I die doing something I love I'll be a happy man

Except cricket is a lot different to surfing. There is a massive amount of risk involved stepping into the ocean, YOU ARE putting your life at risk to an extent. There's no reason whatsoever that a cricket player should have to have that same mindset.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I think the discussion in cricket around whether there is or isn't an issue with the bouncer needs to be saved until later, at the moment we all need to be directing positive thoughts and energy towards Hughes. And also towards Sean Abbott who I'm sure is under a fair amount of distress tonight.

I don't think there are an issue with the helmets, he was just very unlucky where he got hit. Media are reporting it hit his head but it was more around his neck.

It makes you think though, I and I'm sure many others here have played plenty of cricket before, and something like that could happen to any of us. Granted we probably aren't facing the pace that Hughes was but there is such a fine line where something can go tragically wrong.

I've been hit in the helmet facing balls at 120 km/hr. That would have been about 10 or 15 km/hr slower then what Abbott bowls on average. I've hit people in the helmet bowling a little slower then that again.

Thankfully with the development of the helmet, I haven't been concerned about serious injury though it does make you stay on your back foot a little more. Usually you shake the shock of the helmet hit off after a few minutes and you go on weary that you could get another one. There isn't suppose to be any lingering affects. What happened today, just isn't suppose to happen.

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I've been hit as a bowler, batsman smacked it back and hit me square between the eyes before I had any chance to put my hands up or get out of the way. A couple of inches in another direction and I could have been looking at something much worse.

Same for Hughesy, millimetres in another direction and we wouldn't be having this discussion, we would probably be saying how good a chance he is at a Test recall.

McKinnon is another instance of this.

The smallest of margins can have great differences.

They aren't pretty. I've copped two balls in the eye in the outfield straight through hands that were too soft. Fail! haha But I also copped one off the top of the stumps to a bloke bowling 80 km/hr when I was keeping up to him. That one hurt a bit.
Another freak injury on the pro circuit was the one that ended Mark Boucher's career a couple of years ago. Keeping up to the stumps, the ball hit the stumps and a bail went into his eye. He never kept for South Africa again and ended a very much decorated career. I'm not sure of his recovery and whether he gained the sight back. Not life threatening but a freak life-changing incident nonetheless.

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I think he was told he would only ever gain about 60% of his sight back in the affected eye. Simon Jones was another one a few yrs ago during the ashes one yr. Chasing a ball to the rope and he slid his leg, and it just got stuck in the ground and didn't slide. Ruined his career, and he hardly played again (besides the 05 Ashes). Those 2 incidents have nothing on this one though.

This is the Simon Jones injury http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt1OQXfnPE0

 

[happy_tiger]

I think the discussion in cricket around whether there is or isn't an issue with the bouncer needs to be saved until later, at the moment we all need to be directing positive thoughts and energy towards Hughes. And also towards Sean Abbott who I'm sure is under a fair amount of distress tonight.

I don't think there are an issue with the helmets, he was just very unlucky where he got hit. Media are reporting it hit his head but it was more around his neck.

It makes you think though, I and I'm sure many others here have played plenty of cricket before, and something like that could happen to any of us. Granted we probably aren't facing the pace that Hughes was but there is such a fine line where something can go tragically wrong.

Most fair minded people would agree to leave then argument for another time, sadly your request and Inks will go unnoticed

Personally I find it sick to take up the agenda at the moment. Thoughts and prayers should only be with Hughes. Save the argument for another day.

I don't think you will find one person tonight who will not be saying a prayer for Hughes KS

My point is if you asked Phil or any of his family , as upset as they would be would want the game changed in any way

Same as asking a surfer if he wants all sharks killed if one took his leg

You do things you love because you love them warts and all

Speaking personally , if I die doing something I love I'll be a happy man

Except cricket is a lot different to surfing. There is a massive amount of risk involved stepping into the ocean, YOU ARE putting your life at risk to an extent. There's no reason whatsoever that a cricket player should have to have that same mindset.

Everything in life carries risk mate of some sort

Bouncers are apart of cricket , like it or hate it

I don't think they should be overused against tailenders ( we used to have a brilliant intimidatory bowling rule in the late 70's early 80's )

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Fair enough Happy. I think at the very least its a cowardly act bowling bouncers at the tail. Half of them don't have a clue, and as a result it can cause pretty serious injury. Just like when Brett Lee was the big hero all those yrs ago bouncing the tail and one day at the WACA knocked Alex Tudor to the ground and he lay on the ground convulsing. That is an act of thugery, to bowl that kind of delivery to guys not capable of handling it, especially when a yorker would be just as affective in getting them out.

 

[Peaches]

I'm not sure if I mentioned it earlier, but nub thoughts are with young Sean Abbott too. He debuted playing alongside Hughes a couple of years ago and was the bowler who delivered the bouncer today. By all reports, the two are good mates and Abbott isn't dealing with this too well.

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[innsaneink]

Yes indeed Peaches….Abbott must be feeling terrible


 

[Cultured_Bogan]

I've had the dubious honour of being hit between the grille and visor. Wasn't a pleasant experience, but certainly a far better outcome than poor old Phil.

 

[king_sirro]

I think the discussion in cricket around whether there is or isn't an issue with the bouncer needs to be saved until later, at the moment we all need to be directing positive thoughts and energy towards Hughes. And also towards Sean Abbott who I'm sure is under a fair amount of distress tonight.

I don't think there are an issue with the helmets, he was just very unlucky where he got hit. Media are reporting it hit his head but it was more around his neck.

It makes you think though, I and I'm sure many others here have played plenty of cricket before, and something like that could happen to any of us. Granted we probably aren't facing the pace that Hughes was but there is such a fine line where something can go tragically wrong.

Most fair minded people would agree to leave then argument for another time, sadly your request and Inks will go unnoticed

**Personally I find it sick to take up the agenda at the moment**. Thoughts and prayers should only be with Hughes. Save the argument for another day.

So its sick to think that the cause of what happened is an unnecessary part of the game?

My gf's brother in law got bashed last weekend, almost got himself killed. Is it sick to swear death on those that bashed him, or is that apart of some sick agenda?

Yes it's sick when someone like yourself can't handle people disagreeing with you and then throw pathetic pot shots at people. That's when it becomes sick at a time like this.

I tried to ignore it, you had a few people ask to stop,but u just cant handle someone seeing things differently to you. I will leave it at that cos I don't want to contribute anymore to it.

 

[Chris]

In 1932 Bert Oldfield got hit from a vicious bouncer from Harold Larwood fracturing his skull during the Bodyline series and the delivery wasnt outlawed then. Fast forward 82 years later and suddenly people are getting on their high horse and want the delivery outlawed?

What is the difference between then and now?

 

[innsaneink]

In 1932 Bert Oldfield got hit from a vicious bouncer from Harold Larwood fracturing his skull during the Bodyline series and the delivery wasnt outlawed then. Fast forward 82 years later and suddenly people are getting on their high horse and want the delivery outlawed?

What is the difference between then and now?

less difference really…no helmets n back then. good point

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[happy_tiger]

In 1932 Bert Oldfield got hit from a vicious bouncer from Harold Larwood fracturing his skull during the Bodyline series and the delivery wasnt outlawed then. Fast forward 82 years later and suddenly people are getting on their high horse and want the delivery outlawed?

What is the difference between then and now?

One difference would be that Bertie top edged it for starters , I have a book all about the bodyline series somewhere

The biggest question to be asked about that particular incident would of been where would cricket be now if supporters had of jumped the fence as almost happened in Adelaide

 

[happy_tiger]

I think the discussion in cricket around whether there is or isn't an issue with the bouncer needs to be saved until later, at the moment we all need to be directing positive thoughts and energy towards Hughes. And also towards Sean Abbott who I'm sure is under a fair amount of distress tonight.

I don't think there are an issue with the helmets, he was just very unlucky where he got hit. Media are reporting it hit his head but it was more around his neck.

It makes you think though, I and I'm sure many others here have played plenty of cricket before, and something like that could happen to any of us. Granted we probably aren't facing the pace that Hughes was but there is such a fine line where something can go tragically wrong.

Most fair minded people would agree to leave then argument for another time, sadly your request and Inks will go unnoticed

**Personally I find it sick to take up the agenda at the moment**. Thoughts and prayers should only be with Hughes. Save the argument for another day.

So its sick to think that the cause of what happened is an unnecessary part of the game?

My gf's brother in law got bashed last weekend, almost got himself killed. Is it sick to swear death on those that bashed him, or is that apart of some sick agenda?

Yes it's sick when someone like yourself can't handle people disagreeing with you and then throw pathetic pot shots at people. That's when it becomes sick at a time like this.

I tried to ignore it, you had a few people ask to stop,but u just cant handle someone seeing things differently to you. I will leave it at that cos I don't want to contribute anymore to it.

I can't understand why it is disrespectful to be talking about it

It wasn't an issue when we were speaking about Alex McKinnon

I understand what GNR is saying and totally agree , we need to protect the batsmen 8-11 who can't handle the bat Give them once bouncer occasionally , but to do what Australia was doing in the 1st one day game in Perth to the Saffas 10 and 11 is wrong

That's why we need to reintroduce the intimidatory bowling rule from the late 70's which was brought in after a young Pakistani spinner was smashed in the face by Bob Willis in England and then the 78 test series when Jim Higgs was hit by one of the Windies quicks in the WI's

It worked along the same lines as running on the pitch by a bowler. You would be warned twice and then could be removed from the bowling attack by the umpire

I actually meet a Wests Indian cricket fan in Australia many years ago who was actually at that match

He said he saw the quickest and scariest fast bowling ever when Thommo came out after that innings

Coming from a bloke who had seen Wes Hall ,Charlie Griffiths ,Michael Holding ,Andy Roberts ,Ambrose ,Marshall ,Patterson ,Croft and Garner that is saying something

 

[king_sirro]

Happy did u read my post? I said it's sick when it turned into what it did with GNR4LIFE when he clearly couldn't handle someone disagreeing with him. I won't bother quoting to dig he had but it wasn't appropriate at a time like this.

 

[happy_tiger]

Happy did u read my post? I said it's sick when it turned into what it did with GNR4LIFE when he clearly couldn't handle someone disagreeing with him. I won't bother quoting to dig he had but it wasn't appropriate at a time like this.

Sorry KS I didn't even see your next quote and have even attached my next quote to the wrong message

Apologies mate

My concern is there is currently at least 10 first class games on at the moment around the world and as the odds would be incredibly against it , what if it was to reoccur in one of these games

Again my apologies KS

I just read an article about how he was wearing one of the older style helmets and how he would of been protected with the newer style helmets

Wouldn't you think that ICC would ensure that all players playing first class cricket are wearing the best and latest protective equipment

 

[supercoach]

Freak things happen in all sport and cricket is no different. Years ago a fast bowler smashed the ball into the stumps and the stump flew out of the ground and impaled the keeper and he died.(it was in a minor league game) Do keeper wear bullet proof vests???

I am sure the administrators will now be looking at the minimum safety requirements for a cricket helmet, but than their will be another freak accident and that will force more change.

Its sad but it usually takes a major accident for administrators,governments or who ever to know they have a problem that needs fixing. We see it everyday with road accidents and black spots

 

[happy_tiger]

I just noticed that all the Sheffield Shield games had been abandoned , not just the NSW v SA game

Classy thing for all the states to do , if that is the case ??

 

[foreveratiger]

what about this footballer dies doing a somersault celebrating his goal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVDsvMOuhE