Culture Change (Lol)

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I wonder why JT got bashed from pillar to post for failing miserably for not fixing the defence when it was his number one goal, yet Cleary gets a free pass for not changing the culture when that’s his main goal. Double standards.

Ohh please get over your defense of JT

You cant see rhyme nor reason on anything when you are fixated on him.

Double standards champ

Cleary needs a rocket from tonight’s garbage display that’s for sure !
 
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I wonder of our 5 captains , who has the best win /lose ratio ??

Who was even the captain tonight? Does it even matter anymore? Talk about a role that’s been devalued.

Packer was at the presso

I missed the start of the game , too busy blowing up at the waterboy/assistant coach
 
Noffa lead us out being his 100th. Why not just give the role to him, who cares. He’s one of the few who really show passion for the jersey anyway.
 
I will back Cleary, he has done a lot for this club, this time last year we were sitting ducks. At least we have the slimmest look in. This was always going to be a rebuilding year for us.
The only issue I have with this team is how we manage to fold the easiest of games. This was a winner for us & we made even the Morris twins look like world beaters tonight. Did the boys slack off this week thinking they were champions?
 
I will back Cleary, he has done a lot for this club, this time last year we were sitting ducks. At least we have the slimmest look in. This was always going to be a rebuilding year for us.
The only issue I have with this team is how we manage to fold the easiest of games. This was a winner for us & we made even the Morris twins look like world beaters tonight. Did the boys slack off this week thinking they were champions?
 
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I wonder why JT got bashed from pillar to post for failing miserably for not fixing the defence when it was his number one goal, yet Cleary gets a free pass for not changing the culture when that’s his main goal. Double standards.

Ohh please get over your defense of JT

You cant see rhyme nor reason on anything when you are fixated on him.

Double standards champ

You are the most yo yo supporter on here, it’s bewildering. You’ve been all over the success the last two weeks and we lose a game and your world comes crashing down again. To be honest your not a genuine supporter, and if there were more like you (thank god there isn’t) we wouldn’t even have a fan base.

Back to your favourite topic of JT lol. The JT you were still defending after nearly 3 years in charge. If you can’t see how much this team has changed then your delusional. So quick and ready to throw Ivan under a bus any chance you get just so you can continue your JT obsession. It’s sickening, I feel sorry for you.
 
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Noffa lead us out being his 100th. Why not just give the role to him, who cares. He’s one of the few who really show passion for the jersey anyway.

But Ivan’s still not sure who his best 17 is yet !
 
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I wonder why JT got bashed from pillar to post for failing miserably for not fixing the defence when it was his number one goal, yet Cleary gets a free pass for not changing the culture when that’s his main goal. Double standards.

Ohh please get over your defense of JT

You cant see rhyme nor reason on anything when you are fixated on him.

Double standards champ

You are the most yo yo supporter on here, it’s bewildering. You’ve been all over the success the last two weeks and we lose a game and your world comes crashing down again. To be honest your not a genuine supporter, and if there were more like you (thank god there isn’t) we wouldn’t even have a fan base.

Back to your favourite topic of JT lol. The JT you were still defending after nearly 3 years in charge. If you can’t see how much this team has changed then your delusional. So quick and ready to throw Ivan under a bus any chance you get just so you can continue your JT obsession. It’s sickening, I feel sorry for you.

Here he is. You make it too easy for me champion.
 
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Ohh please get over your defense of JT

You cant see rhyme nor reason on anything when you are fixated on him.

Double standards champ

You are the most yo yo supporter on here, it’s bewildering. You’ve been all over the success the last two weeks and we lose a game and your world comes crashing down again. To be honest your not a genuine supporter, and if there were more like you (thank god there isn’t) we wouldn’t even have a fan base.

Back to your favourite topic of JT lol. The JT you were still defending after nearly 3 years in charge. If you can’t see how much this team has changed then your delusional. So quick and ready to throw Ivan under a bus any chance you get just so you can continue your JT obsession. It’s sickening, I feel sorry for you.

Here he is. You make it to easy for me champion.

I make it easy for you by pointing out how much of a fool you are making of yourself lol. Then don’t worry I will make sure I always make it easy for you.
 
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I said a few weeks ago if we weren’t careful we might get overrun by the Dogs and Parra. While that’s not going to happen, we’ve still been beaten by the Dogs (when everything was on the line mind you) which is just as embarrassing.

I love this one. You open up about a statement you make, then agree that you wer wrong and then try to show you are right lol, hilarious.
 
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Double standards champ

You are the most yo yo supporter on here, it’s bewildering. You’ve been all over the success the last two weeks and we lose a game and your world comes crashing down again. To be honest your not a genuine supporter, and if there were more like you (thank god there isn’t) we wouldn’t even have a fan base.

Back to your favourite topic of JT lol. The JT you were still defending after nearly 3 years in charge. If you can’t see how much this team has changed then your delusional. So quick and ready to throw Ivan under a bus any chance you get just so you can continue your JT obsession. It’s sickening, I feel sorry for you.

Here he is. You make it to easy for me champion.

I make it easy for you by pointing out how much of a fool you are making of yourself lol. Then don’t worry I will make sure I always make it easy for you.

I don’t know if you realise it or not, you are in the minority here, as most in this thread agree with me. As usual, you play the man, not the ball. You do it better than any poster I have ever seen on this forum.

Anyway, I have zero interest in wasting another second conversing with you. So, go on mate, have the last word. Make it worth it.
 
What a supremely boring and predictable thread. Good news is coach is in place for 2019 so we can concentrate on something else rather than whinging about it.

I find the comments funny, along the lines of "every year I get sucked into believing in this club" - fool me twice, they say?

We are a battler club. If you want that to change, great, me too, you don't get dynasties swapping out the coach every 2 seasons.
 
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What a supremely boring and predictable thread. Good news is coach is in place for 2019 so we can concentrate on something else rather than whinging about it.

I find the comments funny, along the lines of "every year I get sucked into believing in this club" - fool me twice, they say?

We are a battler club. If you want that to change, great, me too, you don't get dynasties swapping out the coach every 2 seasons.

I’m not saying he should be sacked. Far from it. But given the advantage he’s had with our cap, we should be much better placed. I don’t think it’s unfair to say that this year we have underachieved, especially after our start. Tonight was indefensible. Everything was on the line and we put up the white flag.
 
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We have no juniors coming through, Any decent player avoids us like the plague.
We are screwed for years to come.

I agree
And the only signings we’ll get are the ones that John West reject .
 
We were wooden spoon favourites at the start of the year! It’s certainly disappointing to miss the top 8 AGAIN, but we’ve done better this year than the majority of fans predicted. Our squad does not stack up well compared to most other sides. If you want to criticize Cleary for that, go ahead. But the culture is changing - improved defence, no over paid “superstars”, bringing back Benji/Farah not just for the sake of it, but to actually contribute (Benji was hopeless tonight).
Comparing Cleary to Taylor is insane. When Taylor was sacked, the majority of the rugby league community had little respect for him as a head coach - fans, media, players etc. Cleary on the other hand is well respected in the game for his success with the Warriors and Panthers. He can attract talent and retain more players than Taylor ever would have been able to.
 
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We were wooden spoon favourites at the start of the year! It’s certainly disappointing to miss the top 8 AGAIN, but we’ve done better this year than the majority of fans predicted. Our squad does not stack up well compared to most other sides. If you want to criticize Cleary for that, go ahead. But the culture is changing - improved defence, no over paid “superstars”, bringing back Benji/Farah not just for the sake of it, but to actually contribute (Benji was hopeless tonight).
Comparing Cleary to Taylor is insane. When Taylor was sacked, the majority of the rugby league community had little respect for him as a head coach - fans, media, players etc. Cleary on the other hand is well respected in the game for his success with the Warriors and Panthers. He can attract talent and retain more players than Taylor ever would have been able to.

The media might have had us pegged as spoon favourites, but I never bought that for a second. I always believed we were genuine too 8 contenders. The way we played the first 8 weeks justified that opinion. If we could play like that early, why couldn’t we maintain it? That’s what has made this season so hard to swallow. Had we just had a year like Parra or the Dogs, I’d put my hand up and say “okay, maybe I was wrong. We aren’t the team I thought we were going to be”. But the fact we got off to such a great start, combine that with the last 2 weeks and Mbye and Farah added to the mix, expectations (at least mine) have been raised.
 
I thought we'd finish 10th, looks about right.
I don't think it's been a successful year. Cleary had the freedom to make major changes to the squad but they've fired only a few times.
Taylor was no good as a coach but he was never able to get his own team. He still got them to 9th, missing out on the finals through a Hayne field goal 2nd last game.
I was hoping for better this year. Now I can only hope for it next year.
 
His biggest test will be recruiting quality for next year. Recruitment for this year was ok considering the mess we were in but another round of just ok signings won't be enough.
9 game contracts aren't the answer either.
 
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