Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars

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@Spartan117 said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197330) said:
Remember.

To move players on, someone somewhere needs to think that this is an upgrade for them.

Who wants mbye, reynolds, packer or brooks

Please, Brooks would be snapped up in a heartbeat in the. NRL.
 
@Geo said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197346) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197345) said:
@Spartan117 said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197330) said:
Remember.

To move players on, someone somewhere needs to think that this is an upgrade for them.

Who wants mbye, reynolds, packer or brooks

ESL

Would you really want to move your family to a Covid infested cesspool..?

when things have calmed down yes
 
@Geo said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197346) said:
@TheDaBoss said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197345) said:
@Spartan117 said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197330) said:
Remember.

To move players on, someone somewhere needs to think that this is an upgrade for them.

Who wants mbye, reynolds, packer or brooks

ESL

Would you really want to move your family to a Covid infested cesspool..?

Momo went to Melbourne so I guess it’s possible
 
@Strongee said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197348) said:
@Aesopian said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197279) said:
@Lauren said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197274) said:
Harry Grant has been a revelation for us - he's got the skills and confidence of Smith with the speed of Cook - and I think it's dawned on all of us fans that we need game winning halves, in order to capably take this team to the next level. Yet some fail to see we also need good line runners and backs who are strong in support to help turning/changing a game around. (I hope Nofo/BJ/Kepaoa and Talau are on the verge of breaking out).

I think we need to consider Benji's replacement first and foremost tbh and that it's stupid at this point in time to replace both halves.
Who's available?? How much is it gonna cost? And would they really be an improvement? These are all factors that need to be considered and I'd rather our focus be imminently on Benji's replacement and filling any other spots tbh.

Mbye's a funny one for me.
I like him in some games, think he's versatile with some great fundamental skills but he's also never reached his potential. He seems to lack a whole lot of confidence in himself and clearly comes from a system on par with ours over recent years - I think Bulldogs Des was an abysmal coach at Dogs and treated the club similarly to how Ivan did with us. But if he's not gonna live up to the pay packet he gets of course we move him on.
For the remainder of this year, I'd be content with our halves merely playing smart footy. I'd like to see them use more variation and apply a great kicking (and running game). We've not got the best results from our 5th tackle options and Brooks and Benji did extremely well in this aspect last year...think we struggled with scoring points which doesn't seem the issue this year. And I'm sooo over this one out stuff.
I believe Benji's passing game is as good as it's ever been. If we can throw the ball around we'll have other teams in two minds for once, instead of this bland predictable style we've been playing of late - it's the exact opposite of putting pressure on teams.

All I wanna see is Brooks throw a spiral before the season ends... enough of these floating hand grenades and 1,000,000 MPH fast balls from 2 feet away

The spiral cutout doesn’t work . Most outside backs are really good at anticipating it. The floater over the top usually leads to space on the outside because , the winger/centre can run on to it, and it’s usually preceded by a block play or an unders run to create the space , with a jamming defence .
It works effectively when the outside back is quick . Hopefully with AJ and Talau and Joey and Nofo , we now have that .

Yes there is a time and place but to say it doesn’t work is a massive stretch. Some of the great playmakers used it very effectively, especially inside the attacking 10m.

Joey was the master at it, using it as a face ball against static defensive lines. When you need a quick cutout that’s gotta travel +20m across the face of defenders the old floata just isn’t accurate and is much harder to catch. The spiral gets there quicker and is more accurate. But again, yes there is a time and a place.

The point of my original dig is that I’ve never seen brooks throw a spiral. Maybe he has and I’ve missed it but I don’t think so.

It’s just a basic skill that all playmakers should have. And this next part makes me throw up in my mouth a tad but even Bwaith had that skill and used it effectively.
 
I think if more commentators were vocal in saying Benji should retire, he probably would. When you have morons like Johns and Fittler talking him up, it probably gives him belief.
 
@Aesopian said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197401) said:
@Strongee said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197348) said:
@Aesopian said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197279) said:
@Lauren said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197274) said:
Harry Grant has been a revelation for us - he's got the skills and confidence of Smith with the speed of Cook - and I think it's dawned on all of us fans that we need game winning halves, in order to capably take this team to the next level. Yet some fail to see we also need good line runners and backs who are strong in support to help turning/changing a game around. (I hope Nofo/BJ/Kepaoa and Talau are on the verge of breaking out).

I think we need to consider Benji's replacement first and foremost tbh and that it's stupid at this point in time to replace both halves.
Who's available?? How much is it gonna cost? And would they really be an improvement? These are all factors that need to be considered and I'd rather our focus be imminently on Benji's replacement and filling any other spots tbh.

Mbye's a funny one for me.
I like him in some games, think he's versatile with some great fundamental skills but he's also never reached his potential. He seems to lack a whole lot of confidence in himself and clearly comes from a system on par with ours over recent years - I think Bulldogs Des was an abysmal coach at Dogs and treated the club similarly to how Ivan did with us. But if he's not gonna live up to the pay packet he gets of course we move him on.
For the remainder of this year, I'd be content with our halves merely playing smart footy. I'd like to see them use more variation and apply a great kicking (and running game). We've not got the best results from our 5th tackle options and Brooks and Benji did extremely well in this aspect last year...think we struggled with scoring points which doesn't seem the issue this year. And I'm sooo over this one out stuff.
I believe Benji's passing game is as good as it's ever been. If we can throw the ball around we'll have other teams in two minds for once, instead of this bland predictable style we've been playing of late - it's the exact opposite of putting pressure on teams.

All I wanna see is Brooks throw a spiral before the season ends... enough of these floating hand grenades and 1,000,000 MPH fast balls from 2 feet away

The spiral cutout doesn’t work . Most outside backs are really good at anticipating it. The floater over the top usually leads to space on the outside because , the winger/centre can run on to it, and it’s usually preceded by a block play or an unders run to create the space , with a jamming defence .
It works effectively when the outside back is quick . Hopefully with AJ and Talau and Joey and Nofo , we now have that .

Yes there is a time and place but to say it doesn’t work is a massive stretch. Some of the great playmakers used it very effectively, especially inside the attacking 10m.

Joey was the master at it, using it as a face ball against static defensive lines. When you need a quick cutout that’s gotta travel +20m across the face of defenders the old floata just isn’t accurate and is much harder to catch. The spiral gets there quicker and is more accurate. But again, yes there is a time and a place.

The point of my original dig is that I’ve never seen brooks throw a spiral. Maybe he has and I’ve missed it but I don’t think so.

It’s just a basic skill that all playmakers should have. And this next part makes me throw up in my mouth a tad but even Bwaith had that skill and used it effectively.
Abit like Cronk brooks is in terms of passing ability...I feel brooks is a natural first receiver and would like to see us play our halves in the way eg. 1st and second receiver...I feel the sided halves approach hinders his skill set
 
Please don't swear guys, you're wasting your time quoting posts that contain it too.
 
@Aesopian said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197401) said:
@Strongee said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197348) said:
@Aesopian said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197279) said:
@Lauren said in [Daley says Tigers need to ‘move on’ stars](/post/1197274) said:
Harry Grant has been a revelation for us - he's got the skills and confidence of Smith with the speed of Cook - and I think it's dawned on all of us fans that we need game winning halves, in order to capably take this team to the next level. Yet some fail to see we also need good line runners and backs who are strong in support to help turning/changing a game around. (I hope Nofo/BJ/Kepaoa and Talau are on the verge of breaking out).

I think we need to consider Benji's replacement first and foremost tbh and that it's stupid at this point in time to replace both halves.
Who's available?? How much is it gonna cost? And would they really be an improvement? These are all factors that need to be considered and I'd rather our focus be imminently on Benji's replacement and filling any other spots tbh.

Mbye's a funny one for me.
I like him in some games, think he's versatile with some great fundamental skills but he's also never reached his potential. He seems to lack a whole lot of confidence in himself and clearly comes from a system on par with ours over recent years - I think Bulldogs Des was an abysmal coach at Dogs and treated the club similarly to how Ivan did with us. But if he's not gonna live up to the pay packet he gets of course we move him on.
For the remainder of this year, I'd be content with our halves merely playing smart footy. I'd like to see them use more variation and apply a great kicking (and running game). We've not got the best results from our 5th tackle options and Brooks and Benji did extremely well in this aspect last year...think we struggled with scoring points which doesn't seem the issue this year. And I'm sooo over this one out stuff.
I believe Benji's passing game is as good as it's ever been. If we can throw the ball around we'll have other teams in two minds for once, instead of this bland predictable style we've been playing of late - it's the exact opposite of putting pressure on teams.

All I wanna see is Brooks throw a spiral before the season ends... enough of these floating hand grenades and 1,000,000 MPH fast balls from 2 feet away

The spiral cutout doesn’t work . Most outside backs are really good at anticipating it. The floater over the top usually leads to space on the outside because , the winger/centre can run on to it, and it’s usually preceded by a block play or an unders run to create the space , with a jamming defence .
It works effectively when the outside back is quick . Hopefully with AJ and Talau and Joey and Nofo , we now have that .

Yes there is a time and place but to say it doesn’t work is a massive stretch. Some of the great playmakers used it very effectively, especially inside the attacking 10m.

Joey was the master at it, using it as a face ball against static defensive lines. When you need a quick cutout that’s gotta travel +20m across the face of defenders the old floata just isn’t accurate and is much harder to catch. The spiral gets there quicker and is more accurate. But again, yes there is a time and a place.

The point of my original dig is that I’ve never seen brooks throw a spiral. Maybe he has and I’ve missed it but I don’t think so.

It’s just a basic skill that all playmakers should have. And this next part makes me throw up in my mouth a tad but even Bwaith had that skill and used it effectively.

Yea of course , we all know how to throw a good cutout ball. And I’m sure Luke does as well . But key word being in what you said being USED to . I’ve watched a fair few intercepts this year , from jamming wingers and centres . As well as perfecting the aerial tries , they’ve perfected the intercept . So you have to pass where the space is , which is on the outside . But you’re right in some regard , it has to be situational , dependant on what the defence is showing you .
 

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