David Klemmer #264

How does that show he was a cancer?
He obviously has the backs of his mates
Clearly doesn’t think much of Richo, but no mention of Benji.
That’s all and good unless he was in a clique working against the grain. 3 snr players now gone, at least 2 of which would still have been handy this season.
 
Bateman was a risk signing to begin with in relation to seeing out his contract - don't think he has seen out one in his entire career
As for Klemmer didnt take rejection from the Knights too kindly either and or reportedly instructions from the coach.
Some players a philosophical about being moved and others are not
 
So klemmer had a massive contract with the Tigers for 2025, yet goes and signs a new ( probably) lesser value contract for 2025 only….dumb?
It was indeed a massive contract next year,conditional on playing 14 games this season,which barring injury he wld have done comfortably
But truth is he was on the decline when we bought him,and not the top draw prop we had hoped for ,but a modest middle worth about $600k max who wld have been paid $800-$850+ if he stayed..
.PLUS maybe a negative contributor in the dressing room from some accounts because of what he perceived as shabby treatment
Best for eveyone that he goes
But who are we gonna replace him with???
 
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It doesn’t make sense does it?
Who does that tell you more about…the player or his ex club?
He didn't miss any money this year.
We've paid him half his contract already and the Dragons will surely fill the rest.
He was told he was gone next year so a great result for both him and the club.
 
So klemmer had a massive contract with the Tigers for 2025, yet goes and signs a new ( probably) lesser value contract for 2025 only….dumb?
There is no chance he signed up to play for less money, but we've already paid almost half his contract for the year

He'll get game time there which he wasn't going to get here and possibly another year on his contract.
 
I feel like we are th BAD break up club.

Most players leave with a bad taste in their mouths.

We need to fix this as the players / managers talk and this could be detrimental to future recruitment.
If you get dumped by the wooden spooners what does that say about oneself? Human nature is to deflect the embarrassment.

Edit. Perhaps it reflects how much respect these players actually have for our club. Winning regularly would change that.
 
We should have already paid him for November, December, January, February and almost half of March.

That is actually a bit over a third of the year.
 
If you get dumped by the wooden spooners what does that say about oneself? Human nature is to deflect the embarrassment.

Edit. Perhaps it reflects how much respect these players actually have for our club. Winning regularly would change that.
Not just Klemmer,


I'm saying is that we need to manage players exits more professionally in our long term interests
 
Not just Klemmer,


I'm saying is that we need to manage players exits more professionally in our long term interests
You can stretch it out further and go all the way back to Anasta.

Roosters passed on him. Tigers took him on and he contributed almost nothing to us yet he seems jaded by his experience. I think he feels like he took a social hit by coming here. There’s absolutely no respect for the club. There’s the whole strapping tape Gatorade stories. Is there more to it? His perception seems to fester through the media and player ranks. (Not saying it’s directly imflienced by him).

Brandon Smiths attitude is another one. He almost laughs at the suggestion at coming to Tigers. His perception I think is common but it’s just that he’s not professional enough to not express it.

Now is the toxic culture so strong that after an almost complete flush out from top down, of Board, CEO, Coaching, Player rosters, staff and sponsor we are still that bad? Who is left to continue the toxic legacy from say 10 years ago?

I think it’s just hard to shake this monkey in the NRL with the current power, manager, politics and salary cap structures. Richo isn’t in it to make friends. I agree if the players aren’t in it for the crocodile role (or on the bus) then see ya because ultimately they are the only ones who can win games for you.
 
You can stretch it out further and go all the way back to Anasta.

Roosters passed on him. Tigers took him on and he contributed almost nothing to us yet he seems jaded by his experience. I think he feels like he took a social hit by coming here. There’s absolutely no respect for the club. There’s the whole strapping tape Gatorade stories. Is there more to it? His perception seems to fester through the media and player ranks. (Not saying it’s directly imflienced by him).

Brandon Smiths attitude is another one. He almost laughs at the suggestion at coming to Tigers. His perception I think is common but it’s just that he’s not professional enough to not express it.

Now is the toxic culture so strong that after an almost complete flush out from top down, of Board, CEO, Coaching, Player rosters, staff and sponsor we are still that bad? Who is left to continue the toxic legacy from say 10 years ago?

I think it’s just hard to shake this monkey in the NRL with the current power, manager, politics and salary cap structures. Richo isn’t in it to make friends. I agree if the players aren’t in it for the crocodile role (or on the bus) then see ya because ultimately they are the only ones who can win games for you.
Success on the field is the only thing that will change perceptions. We can talk as much as we like about clean outs, recruiting etc etc etc but they should be means to an end ( more wins) not an end unto themself.
Once we start winning the whole perception changes and we will be viewed in a different light by players, managers, fans and the general public.
So Benji, let’s get this team winning, not competing and if you can’t, then move aside.
 
If I owned a business and an employee was getting paid $800000 but was really only worth $400000 I would be looking to offload that employee also. I'm sure Klemmer is still getting his money one way or another, but it is to the benefit of us moving forward. I applaud Richo and would suggest there is more happening behind the scenes.
 
Success on the field is the only thing that will change perceptions. We can talk as much as we like about clean outs, recruiting etc etc etc but they should be means to an end ( more wins) not an end unto themself.
Once we start winning the whole perception changes and we will be viewed in a different light by players, managers, fans and the general public.
So Benji, let’s get this team winning, not competing and if you can’t, then move aside.
I wonder what the perception of the Roosters season and Bee Sting Head Robbos prospects as a coach are like after last night. 🤣
 
I wonder what the perception of the Roosters season and Bee Sting Head Robbos prospects as a coach are like after last night. 🤣
Certainly better than they were 5 minutes before kick off. Despite the negative vibe he sometimes gets, Robbo is still a high grade coach, and to do what Roosters did last night, albeit against a somewhat ordinary Panthers, reinforces that.
But, in my experience, the motivation used to lift them for one game is a lot harder over a season, especially with the player gaps they have. If he can do that, then he truly is a great coach.
 
I feel like we are th BAD break up club.

Most players leave with a bad taste in their mouths.

We need to fix this as the players / managers talk and this could be detrimental to future recruitment.
How do you tell a player that he's no longer good enough or not wanted without pissing him off, there's no sugar coating it anyway you deliver the conversation, happens at all clubs it's a part of football the player if a true professional would just move on and prove them wrong at another club.
But then you have players that want to complain and moan not letting it go does that remind you of anyone.
 
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How do you tell a player that he's no longer good enough or not wanted without pissing him off, there's no sugar coating it anyway you deliver the conversation, happens at all clubs it's a part football the player if a true professional would just move on and prove them wrong at another club.
But then you have players that want complain and moan not letting it go does that remind you of anyone.
You’re right RHS, it’s just one aspect of the life of a pro footballer. At least these guys are going to another club to ply their trade, and pay the bills. But we all have pride and getting cut always hurts, whether it’s sport or a job.
PS or a relationship !
 
You can stretch it out further and go all the way back to Anasta.

Roosters passed on him. Tigers took him on and he contributed almost nothing to us yet he seems jaded by his experience. I think he feels like he took a social hit by coming here. There’s absolutely no respect for the club. There’s the whole strapping tape Gatorade stories. Is there more to it? His perception seems to fester through the media and player ranks. (Not saying it’s directly imflienced by him).

Brandon Smiths attitude is another one. He almost laughs at the suggestion at coming to Tigers. His perception I think is common but it’s just that he’s not professional enough to not express it.

Now is the toxic culture so strong that after an almost complete flush out from top down, of Board, CEO, Coaching, Player rosters, staff and sponsor we are still that bad? Who is left to continue the toxic legacy from say 10 years ago?

I think it’s just hard to shake this monkey in the NRL with the current power, manager, politics and salary cap structures. Richo isn’t in it to make friends. I agree if the players aren’t in it for the crocodile role (or on the bus) then see ya because ultimately they are the only ones who can win games for you.
Your making more out of this than there really is imo.
While I agree with @Spartan117 we are a bad break up club so to speak...I've heard anasta say plenty good things about us, but yes they take the mickey out of us and there's only one way to negate that and.thats play good footy and win games
ps - why anyone would care what Brandon Smith thinks has me baffled...
 

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