David Nofoaluma #164

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Different management ! Are you serious right now . You know who else didn’t get looked after , KErRy HeLmslEy !
You’ve literally lost the plot ! The whole reason they’re looking after Nofa is because of the shit job they did with Taniela and the old boys .
You’re clutching at straws proving my whole point . You’re making shit up because your butt hurt in the way he left the club , and the bad performances he put in .
And by the way , no one is justifying that . It was disgraceful , and he should be ashamed of himself .
But if he winds up hanging from is garage roof , because he couldn’t deal with his sharp decline in both form and mental health , and the whole arrogance and ego that propels elite sportsman also almost always is the thing that undoes them . Ie. they can’t transition to be a bit player/ club man . then is not the clubs responsibility to have a duty of care around that ?
Even if it’s just allowing him to come to LO and watch the boys run around .
You’re either really young , or really emotionally immature . It’s not weak to be able to forgive . Especially with how spectacularly and obviously Nofa has failed himself .

Kerry Hemsley - WTF are you on about?

He retired in 88 not due to any injury or mental health issues - and is still at Leichhardt every game!

I have known Kerry well since the 80s....

Nofa got a golden handshake he did not deserve - shat on the club and Benji to the media and RLPA - and then got sacked by Salford after 2 shockers!

I don't need to forgive him for anything - he needs to piss off into the distance...

 

[Lestronge]

Kerry Hemsley - WTF are you on about?

He retired in 88 not due to any injury or mental health issues - and is still at Leichhardt every game!

I have known Kerry well since the 80s....

Nofa got a golden handshake he did not deserve - shat on the club and Benji to the media and RLPA - and then got sacked by Salford after 2 shockers!

I don't need to forgive him for anything - he needs to piss off into the distance...

That’s the point , it’s the same relevancy as Taniela …….

 

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That whole diatribe is the definition of straw man ! How do you know what people will and wouldn’t advocate for .
He gets the help because at the end of the day , he did even for a brief moment , at some point provide joy for me and family . Sure he had an attitude problem , but he did a service for the club and as such is given the same resources as any other ex player .
The hypocrisy and mental gymnastics to justify your argument is ridiculous!
You can’t claim lack of empathy as an argument point , by showing a lack of empathy ! LOL ! You’re either empathetic or you’re not !
You do realise it undermines your whole position and reveals it for what it is ……
“Fanatic is angry that ex player left the club in a really bad way , and played poorly for a few years”
The rest is horseshit ! The only person who lacks empathy is yourself .
And any reference to mental health and its affect in the community is offensive . No one is even talking about that . It’s irrelevant and a deliberate ploy to shift the goal posts .
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again .
Fanatic sports fans , of which we get pages on here to use as reference points are a case study for larger issues in the world , and the whole “my truth is the truth” .
Just for reference , I’ve had people who I absolutely despised , come out later and admit they were going through it at the time . Completely helping shape the way I viewed them , and not jumping DT shadows at others in the future .
And finally just since we are chucking facts out there , most people are incapable of showing empathy outside of the 100-200 people that they have around them at any given time .
It doesn’t mean they’re a piece of shit . It’s a product of evolution and tribalism . So stop with the straw man bullshit because you’re actually the one who lacks empathy , and your trying to justify it with horseshit …

I'm empathetic to those who deserve empathy - and have made it clear that I don't consider Nofa to be the slightest bit deserving just because he "provided joy for you and your family"...

He is a spoilt brat who never matured or grew up to accept any accountability - and he bit the hand the fed him!

The only reason he got an over-priced extension against the coach's will in the first place was because Lee pulled the nepotism card because of his daughter's relationship with Nofa!

Nice diatribe about empathy - shame it is a complete load of bullshit used to justify your bias!

 

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That’s the point , it’s the same relevancy as Taniela …….

Taniela retired due to an injury suffered on the field - he deserved more support than was provided...

 

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I'm empathetic to those who deserve empathy - and have made it clear that I don't consider Nofa to be the slightest bit deserving just because he "provided joy for you and your family"...

He is a spoilt brat who never matured or grew up to accept any accountability - and he bit the hand the fed him!

The only reason he got an over-priced extension against the coach's will in the first place was because Lee pulled the nepotism card because of his daughter's relationship with Nofa!

Nice diatribe about empathy - shame it is a complete load of bullshit used to justify your bias!

Haha That’s literally just repeating what I said !
“I know you are , you said you are but what am I “ only when you say it , it makes no sense . Not even a little bit !

 

[Lestronge]

Taniela retired due to an injury suffered on the field - he deserved more support than was provided...

Are you OK ? How are you not understanding what I’m saying ?
Every post you make, is reinforcing the fact you really arnt that bright mate . I’m gonna check out now , because I think this might not be an argument I should be having .

 

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Are you OK ? How are you not understanding what I’m saying ?
Every post you make, is reinforcing the fact you really arnt that bright mate . I’m gonna check out now , because I think this might not be an argument I should be having .

You might think you are making sense - try and read back your bullshit about empathy being tribal etc...

Get over youself!

 

[Todd Packer]

Forum paramedics to the Nof. thread stat.
I repeat forum paramedics to the Nof. thread stat.
We have ourselves a code 1 meltdown.

 

[Lestronge]

You might think you are making sense - try and read back your bullshit about empathy being tribal etc...

Get over youself dimwit!

It’s ironic your own lack of knowledge , leads to you throw out insults rather than maybe educate yourself on the subject .
Just for those who don’t understand how tribalism/ genetic coding impacts our empathy .
Think about it like this . Millions of years ago you only cared about your tribe and thier survival , so anybody external of that was surplus to requirements to ensure survival .
Now transpose that to today the same genetic coding exists , which is why when people watch the news and struggle to have any really strong emotion to things like genocides in Africa , or the war in Ukraine . We know those things are messed up , and we should care , and we do to a small degree , but it’s not like we are sitting on our lounges balling our eyes out to the atrocities of it all .
That dissonance is what I’m referencing . If the same thing was happening to your family/200 odd people , you would be crying and emotionally invested .
Which is why genetics and tribalism affects our empathy .
That’s what I wa stalking about . I’m no psychologist , or neuroscientist, that’s basically my layman brain of understanding this part about myself .

 

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Forum paramedics to the Nof. thread stat.
I repeat forum paramedics to the Nof. thread stat.
We have ourselves a code 1 meltdown.

Shame a certain person wanted to start name-calling:

 

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It’s ironic your own lack of knowledge , leads to you throw out insults rather than maybe educate yourself on the subject .
Just for those who don’t understand how tribalism/ genetic coding impacts our empathy .
Think about it like this . Millions of years ago you only cared about your tribe and thier survival , so anybody external of that was surplus to requirements to ensure survival .
Now transpose that to today the same genetic coding exists , which is why when people watch the news and struggle to have any really strong emotion to things like genocides in Africa , or the war in Ukraine . We know those things are messed up , and we should care , and we do to a small degree , but it’s not like we are sitting on our lounges balling our eyes out to the atrocities of it all .
That dissonance is what I’m referencing . If the same thing was happening to your family/200 odd people , you would be crying and emotionally invested .
Which is why genetics and tribalism affects our empathy .
That’s what I wa stalking about . I’m no psychologist , or neuroscientist, that’s basically my layman brain of understanding this part about myself .

Yep - when was the last time you lived in a closed tribe???

Pop-sociology for remedial learners at its finest!

 

[Todd Packer]

Having a blue on multiple threads.
Did your missus knock you back Snidely Whiplash?

 

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A player turns up to support and catch up with his former team-mates at a club that he long proudly led the team song for and is getting castigated for it, wow.

Because he took the club (his employer) to the RLPA on spurious grounds - was still given a golden parachute but chose to shit on the club to the media after signing with Salford...

Would you seriously welcome that employee back to visit your workplace a few months later??

 

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Having a blue on multiple threads.
Did your missus knock you back Snidely Whiplash?

I'm a multi-tasker...

Common denominator is both subjects are the consistently worst defenders I have ever seen in Tigers jerseys!

 

[Lestronge]

Yep - when was the last time you lived in a closed tribe???

Pop-sociology for remedial learners at its finest!

Omg man ! It’s about the genetic coding of how our instincts process things . And it’s obviously to scale . Immediate family , external family / friends , acquaintances , maybe you have a strong social circle around etc.
maybe you identify as homosexual , maybe your a certain ethnicity , maybe your a Star Trek/ Star Wars nerd and you go to conventions etc. it’s all relative to you .
You’re either deliberately being obtuse , or you don’t understand . Either way I’m out on this conversation .
You’ve embarrassed yourself and you don’t even realise . Good luck with your night .

 

[Lestronge]

Yep - when was the last time you lived in a closed tribe???

Pop-sociology for remedial learners at its finest!

More like neuroscience . But ok ….

 

[4jtigers]

Because he took the club (his employer) to the RLPA on spurious grounds - was still given a golden parachute but chose to shit on the club to the media after signing with Salford...

Would you seriously welcome that employee back to visit your workplace a few months later??

I would probably think twice before welcoming him back but a little compassion doesn't hurt either and just asking "how he is" and offer assistance if you can but not go overboard since he has bitten the hand that fed him.

 

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Omg man ! It’s about the genetic coding of how our instincts process things . And it’s obviously to scale . Immediate family , external family / friends , acquaintances , maybe you have a strong social circle around etc.
maybe you identify as homosexual , maybe your a certain ethnicity , maybe your a Star Trek/ Star Wars nerd and you go to conventions etc. it’s all relative to you .
You’re either deliberately being obtuse , or you don’t understand . Either way I’m out on this conversation .
You’ve embarrassed yourself and you don’t even realise . Good luck with your night .

I understand - but genetic coding and the role of the nature/nurture factors are far more complicated and still not fully known.

How it relates to Nofa is immaterial!

 

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I would probably think twice before welcoming him back but a little compassion doesn't hurt either and just asking "how he is" and offer assistance if you can but not go overboard since he has bitten the hand that fed him.

Once he signed with Salford he became their problem...

 

[Lestronge]

I would probably think twice before welcoming him back but a little compassion doesn't hurt either and just asking "how he is" and offer assistance if you can but not go overboard since he has bitten the hand that fed him.

Exactly . Apparently he should be tarred and feathered because he was a shit defender and phoned it in for 2 years .
Some logic right there !