Nofo has had ONE good year
One very good year and some ordinary years mixed in his career agree he's a very good clubman but appears that someone is in his ear stroking his ego
But you make roster decisions based on projected performance and Noff does appear to be rising to an elite performer, what he did prior to last year is really a non factor.
It’s a huge factor. He’s had one good season since 2016.
I disagree. If I’m going into a room for a retention meeting to discuss how I project he’ll perform in 2021, a great year in 2020 is carrying much more weight than an average 2017 - and I also think he’s been a good (maybe not great) player since his debut. To me Noff found more confidence in himself last year which I know is powerful in rugby league. He believes he will play origin, good on him.
In the past 4 seasons he’s played to his contract value once. To reward him with an upgraded 4 year contract is bonkers imo.
I’d pay 3 years at 500 with a club option, that’s probably max for me.
$400k x 2 absolute max.
Then he’s gone and we probably pick up a worse player and go backwards
If he goes we won’t be going backwards on the ladder. He is a bit overrated on here due to his perceived loyalty. Funnily enough I went into the south’s forum to see their reaction to potentially signing Nofo and it is pretty much unanimous that they’d prefer Mansour.
on this forum most on here think he is Eric Groth senior or Ken Irvine
Not old enough to see those guys but when you don’t have many truly good players in your squad, you can’t just let the ones you do have go for the sake of a few dollars.
Yeah lets pay him $100k over value and then what happens when the player that can truly change our club comes on the market and we are short of $ because we overpaid a winger? You would be the 1st to criticize the club for missing the big name.
We’ve signed half of the NSW under 16’s team from 2015-2019 surely we have some in the kitty for actual NRL players.
So lets waste it by overpaying a winger, again I'm not saying don't sign him, I'm saying don't overpay him.
I’ve put a cap at 500 I’m not saying go chips in. That’s still a lot less than we’ve given some of our dead weight and Noff is really making a contribution.
I’m just saying don’t lose him for the sake of a few dollars as it only prolongs the cycle of mediocrity where we lose our best players and can’t sign replacements that are better. As Sterlo says, good teams always have a suitable replacement lined up when they lose a player.
If I thought we could go out and get Xavier Coates in his place, then let him go. But based on recent history, that will not happen.
I don't care what we have paid others, if we keep making the mistakes of the past we are destined to repeat the outcome. I would be ok going to $450k for Noffa but that is absolutely max
Repeating mistakes of the past like letting dangerous attacking players go who then go onto win dally m’s, Clive Churchill’s etc.????
Are you serious? Noffa a chance to win a Dally m or Clive Churchill? I wouldn't let Noffa go, I would offering him a contract of around $450k which is above his value.
Stick him on the end of Souths backline he could easily score 4 tries in a GF mate, there’s your Clive Churchill. Of course not Dally M as a winger but you get the drift.
If he scores 4 tries in a Grand Final and doesn't improve his defence than that doesn't make him worth more than $450k so it wouldn't change my opinion.
We’ll remain divided on this one mate, I hope he’s playing finals with us.
Edit: I think if Roosters are bickering over 50K they just go play some golf.
Its not $50k though, his market value would be around $350-400k, so at $450k you are already overpaying him so you are adding more money to a deal that is already in his favour.
I’m not close enough to it to know one way or another, but some bright spark attached 900K or thereabouts to Mbye. So I find it hard/impossible to put Nofa at 350-400
As I said, it doesn't matter what we overpaid players in the past , if you use that as your measuring stick there is no way out of this situation.
I look at the fact the best winger in the game was on $350k last year and around $450-500k next year.
It matters because these guys go for beers and coffees together and must be just shaking their heads. Moses shout again.
So continue to overpay players because Cleary overpaid Moses? Where does it end? You keep complaining we can't attract players, Moses, Reynolds and Packer are part of the reason for that.
It’s gotta be gradual. You can’t cut your nose off to spite your face, or whatever that saying is. Losing our best players IS NOT the solution.
So I guess we should have met Aloiai's demands for $600k plus as well, as he was one of our best last year? That is $200k over his value. If you want to rectify this gradually than expect the results to improve gradually.
You need to pay players what they are worth, you cannot afford to pay overs for the next 3 years.
As I’ve said it’s about the person, not the money. If you like the person, show him the money. Joffa and Tamou will do Aloiai’s job just fine.
I agree about Joffa and Tamou, yes give Noffa the money, just be realistic. I think a contract worth $100k more than what the best winger in the game got last year is showing him the money. Especially when he already earnt $300k more than that winger over the last 3 years.
Mate, just because the spreadsheet says he’s worth 350K doesn’t mean that’s the value he gives you. Consider this, Tuki is probably on minimum wage this year maybe a little more, so will we get half or a third of the value out of him that the Storm got out of JAC last year, no way, he might not even play. It’s somebody’s job to predict value based on projected performance. It’s my opinion we’d get half a million dollars value out of Nofa.
Nofa is a good finisher, that makes excellent metres to start the set, seems to be loyal and is liked by the fanbase. He also make too many mistake defensively and has been overpaid for the last 3 seasons when compared to the elite players in his position.
We really are just arguing blindly here as neither of us know fully the $ being talked about. I have complete faith in the guys making these decisions so I think they will offer him a fair contract, if he takes it great, if not their is nothing we can do.
