David Nofoaluma #164

[Snake]

I remember Nofa (or his agent) trying the same stunt in 2017, he was going to join Moses at the Eels, saying he had bought in to Arthur’s vision of a successful future for the club etc. Naturally back then the wheels were falling off , WT needed something to shift the momentum so they threw $450k at Nofa. Unfortunately for Nofa and his manager WT are in a much stronger position these days with stability and a strong desire for success replacing mediocrity and helplessness. So sorry Nofa, that approach won’t give you any leverage this time. But good luck mate, just the same.



I can not remember Nofa saying anything remotely like that last time.I do remember parra making him a good offer and he rejected it

While Nofoaluma said his preference was to stay put, he had bought into Arthur's vision for the Eels.

"Yeah, I've spoken with him, we've had talks," Nofoaluma said.

"There are a lot of positive things that you hear from him and Mitch has told me the same thing.

"He's really keen on building something at Parramatta and I've taken on the things he's discussed with me. At the end of the day you've got to weigh up your options and make a decision when the time comes."

Don’t forget to close the door when you leave .. you really need players totally focused on what your club is doing not OTHERS there are reason why there is finals drought at our club your fully in or out IMO!

 

[MarySt]

Pretty disappointed with the majority of responses in this thread.

He's an integral part of our team, bleeds for the club and plays his heart out every time he steps on the field. On top of that he's easily in the top 3 wingers in the game at the moment, him winning the dally m makes that an undisputed claim. He would not be easily replaced

If we lost him it would be dark days for the club. Let's hope the club and him come to a resolution sooner than later

 

[TigerWest]

I know this forum likes to voice its opinnions and what not.

But i got none in re to Nofa, his been loyal, his never sold the club out, and i love watching him play.

I think nofa has earned the right to go where he wants to go! I hope he stays here, like a lot of people have said, he is probs the vision of Wt for the next couple years, I mean purely faced on the fact that if he plays for one more year and completes more than 10 tries, he will be the highest try scorer for Wt.


I dont think his worth more than 500k on paper, but i like rallying around a dream, I think thats him next year tbh, I could be wrong and thats ok, but I hope we retain him


I understand your love for Nofa, gosh I like the guy too, but emotional reaction doesn’t win premierships, and $500k will get you a winger who can score tries and tackle. I would offer Nofa no more than $325k plus vehicle and veterans allowance.

I just think the price of wingers are going up. the whole finding my way accidently to the try line saga needs to end. Wingers win games, espescially wingers like nofa that can cut in, seriously it the only reason i like him, show me another a winger that can do that as well as he can and im happy to say cya

What about wingers that get on the outside of their opponent like JAC did to Nofoaluma and sprint 70 or 80 metres for tries? Those who have the outright pace to run opponents down over distance. Those wingers that are match winners like JAC.

you literally said "What about wingers that get on the outside of their opponent like JAC did to Nofoaluma "

thats stuational and goood on him jesus, How about you tackle my question? wheres your wingers that can cut inside fam?

Real wingers demonstrate genuine pace. Where is the pace? Where is the pace on the chase like in SOO. A good club winger on max $ now. He's had one good year in attack, poor in defence and previous years on contract amount ordinary. Now he wants more? Sure test the market and join the Eels with Matto.

 please reply again in re to "pace"

google it yourself if you want, anyone thinking this bloke is slow I promise he aint

Even his biggest fans wouldn’t call him fast. He isn’t.

Club fans here are unfrogiving ill give you that

He’s not fast. He never has been. JAC burned past him in a millisecond. They’re just facts.

i think ive shown enough proof, you hide anything you want at this point

The proof was simply watching JAC run away from him.

im voting your comment cos it was so intellectual compared to mine

You’re kidding mate, this is a discussion/opinion forum not a down in the gutter win at all costs vote scoring forum, ease up with your back opinions, you will find it easier.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Pretty disappointed with the majority of responses in this thread.

He's an integral part of our team, bleeds for the club and plays his heart out every time he steps on the field. On top of that he's easily in the top 3 wingers in the game at the moment, him winning the dally m makes that an undisputed claim. He would not be easily replaced

If we lost him it would be dark days for the club. Let's hope the club and him come to a resolution sooner than later

We have to do things differently. It seems the club will offer him what they believe he is worth. WTs cannot be fairer than that. He may not agree with it but you would support the club's stance over the claims of a player? The difference between WTs' valuation and the value his manager places on him could potentially get us another top junior like Simpkin.

 

[earl]

Pretty disappointed with the majority of responses in this thread.

He's an integral part of our team, bleeds for the club and plays his heart out every time he steps on the field. On top of that he's easily in the top 3 wingers in the game at the moment, him winning the dally m makes that an undisputed claim. He would not be easily replaced

If we lost him it would be dark days for the club. Let's hope the club and him come to a resolution sooner than later

Why dramatize the situation ? If he goes it won't be anywhere near as bad as Tedesco leaving. We weren't winning with Tedesco here either.

He is a good player. We should try to keep him. I think all people are stating is that he isn't the fastest winger and maybe he isn't the best defensive winger. We can't offer him a tonne of money to stay and pay overs. We've been paying good money for a long time. We need the club to make rational decisions and I think the majority of supporters are cool with that.

I think he will stay and I assume the club will offer a really good contract. If he goes so be it.

 

[TigerWest]

Pretty disappointed with the majority of responses in this thread.

He's an integral part of our team, bleeds for the club and plays his heart out every time he steps on the field. On top of that he's easily in the top 3 wingers in the game at the moment, him winning the dally m makes that an undisputed claim. He would not be easily replaced

If we lost him it would be dark days for the club. Let's hope the club and him come to a resolution sooner than later

I don’t think he is going anyway and yes he does try, but everyone can be replaced, wasn’t he only recently dropped?

Wingers score tries mainly through team plays, granted he has scored some amazing tries though.

He is fast, but after all the years he played with us, his defence imo, has not really improved and as is important as scoring them.

I guess we will see how he goes next year.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

our offer is our offer if he can get more elsewhere then all the best

Jedi, I can sense you're getting a little nervous about Nofa leaving. Don't worry, I reckon we'll be popping the champagne corks when he re-signs soon and he'll have a little extra to spend.

Don't mind if he stays for 450k
8 years of

8 years of the same old defence...and one good year out of 8, can see why some on here are happy to miss semis every year

Most people seem to think we don't make the semis because we let our good players (like Nofa!) leave. Luckily he won't get away. We'll give him some extra money.

we do let our good players go tedesco Woods and the like and we keep the lesser lights aka Brooks and Noffo you are correct.
keep the money and get JAC

Crighton preferably.

how good would Crighton be Nofo's money going towards him

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

imagine losing
Packer
Reynolds
Nofo

Picking up
JAC
Crighton
with money left over for another purchase
big upgrades

 

[Deleted member 3518]

I cant be bothered, if anyone has actual proof this bloke is slow msg me directly, but be prepped to have everything validated, if you dont just tell everyone here how good you are with player retention by droppiing one of the fastest blokes we have had thats proven on a telstra tracker>>>


2020 speed edit 1st of august 2020 https://www.qt.com.au/news/revealed-every-nrl-clubs-fastest-fittest-and-stron/4069420/


May 2020 https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/06/18/stat-attack-gut-busting-gutho-is-effort-king/

You know top speed is just that , top speed ? I don’t think he’s slow at all, I think he was unfit , and much like AD this year , he never had the legs so would get chased down . I think he’s much fitter now , which is why his tackle bust and average metres has gone up , because he can fight in every tackle .
Because of all this , he was “slow” per se, but yea it’s mainly fitness and lungs related , not twitching muscle fibres .
Just my 2 cents

 

[Holden]

I know this forum likes to voice its opinnions and what not.

But i got none in re to Nofa, his been loyal, his never sold the club out, and i love watching him play.

I think nofa has earned the right to go where he wants to go! I hope he stays here, like a lot of people have said, he is probs the vision of Wt for the next couple years, I mean purely faced on the fact that if he plays for one more year and completes more than 10 tries, he will be the highest try scorer for Wt.


I dont think his worth more than 500k on paper, but i like rallying around a dream, I think thats him next year tbh, I could be wrong and thats ok, but I hope we retain him


I understand your love for Nofa, gosh I like the guy too, but emotional reaction doesn’t win premierships, and $500k will get you a winger who can score tries and tackle. I would offer Nofa no more than $325k plus vehicle and veterans allowance.

I just think the price of wingers are going up. the whole finding my way accidently to the try line saga needs to end. Wingers win games, espescially wingers like nofa that can cut in, seriously it the only reason i like him, show me another a winger that can do that as well as he can and im happy to say cya

What about wingers that get on the outside of their opponent like JAC did to Nofoaluma and sprint 70 or 80 metres for tries? Those who have the outright pace to run opponents down over distance. Those wingers that are match winners like JAC.

you literally said "What about wingers that get on the outside of their opponent like JAC did to Nofoaluma "

thats stuational and goood on him jesus, How about you tackle my question? wheres your wingers that can cut inside fam?

Real wingers demonstrate genuine pace. Where is the pace? Where is the pace on the chase like in SOO. A good club winger on max $ now. He's had one good year in attack, poor in defence and previous years on contract amount ordinary. Now he wants more? Sure test the market and join the Eels with Matto.

 please reply again in re to "pace"

google it yourself if you want, anyone thinking this bloke is slow I promise he aint

Even his biggest fans wouldn’t call him fast. He isn’t.

Club fans here are unfrogiving ill give you that

He’s not fast. He never has been. JAC burned past him in a millisecond. They’re just facts.

i think ive shown enough proof, you hide anything you want at this point

The proof was simply watching JAC run away from him.

im voting your comment cos it was so intellectual compared to mine

You’re kidding mate, this is a discussion/opinion forum not a down in the gutter win at all costs vote scoring forum, ease up with your back opinions, you will find it easier.

Quite right, apologies just got a bit heated I guess

Just gonna add in re to short sprint speed for nofa > he doesnt get stopped on those 80 meter intercepts we all love watching, his got the ability to keep it up I reckon, nowhere near JAC for sure.

 

[twentyforty]

Pretty disappointed with the majority of responses in this thread.

He's an integral part of our team, bleeds for the club and plays his heart out every time he steps on the field. On top of that he's easily in the top 3 wingers in the game at the moment, him winning the dally m makes that an undisputed claim. He would not be easily replaced

If we lost him it would be dark days for the club. Let's hope the club and him come to a resolution sooner than later

I don’t think he is going anyway and yes he does try, but everyone can be replaced, wasn’t he only recently dropped?

Wingers score tries mainly through team plays, granted he has scored some amazing tries though.

He is fast, but after all the years he played with us, his defence imo, has not really improved and as is important as scoring them.

I guess we will see how he goes next year.

His defence has been a real issue. He has let in more tries than he has scored.
People should not be influenced by awards when calculating Nofa’s asset value. The only thing that matters is..
1. Can he win games for us? How?
2. Can he lose games for us? How?
While some of the comments may appear negative to some, many are just constructive criticism from fans who want to start winning.

 

[Holden]

Pretty disappointed with the majority of responses in this thread.

He's an integral part of our team, bleeds for the club and plays his heart out every time he steps on the field. On top of that he's easily in the top 3 wingers in the game at the moment, him winning the dally m makes that an undisputed claim. He would not be easily replaced

If we lost him it would be dark days for the club. Let's hope the club and him come to a resolution sooner than later

I don’t think he is going anyway and yes he does try, but everyone can be replaced, wasn’t he only recently dropped?

Wingers score tries mainly through team plays, granted he has scored some amazing tries though.

He is fast, but after all the years he played with us, his defence imo, has not really improved and as is important as scoring them.

I guess we will see how he goes next year.


His defence has been a real issue. He has let in more tries than he has scored.
People should not be influenced by awards when calculating Nofa’s asset value. The only thing that matters is..
1. Can he win games for us? How?
2. Can he lose games for us? How?
While some of the comments may appear negative to some, many are just constructive criticism from fans who want to start winning.

Oh for sure his defence is abysmal, I hate how often he gets caught coming inside to make the tackle on the centre and allows the opposing winger to have an easy one.

 

[voice_of_reason]

Good grief, Nofo really is a polarising character which is odd because he's never done anything negative towards the club.

The talk of his poor defence is analogous with Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon talking about fraud - if you repeat it often enough people will believe it's true even though many, many times it's been demonstrated the defensive issues start well inside him. Is he a perfect defender? No, there are NO perfect defenders. The over-simplistic view that if a try is scored on the wing it's the winger's fault is simply nonsense.

As for speed; speed is relative. Everyone talks of JAC being the fastest man in league yet he's been run down. Speed is inextricably linked to fatigue. As an old man I could run down Usain Bolt if he was fatigued enough. I recall reading Nofo was fastest at the club over 40 metres. He's scored enough intercept tries for me to believe he has good solid pace over reasonable distances. He saved a try last year running down Wighton and had made AD look slow by overtaking him in chasing down players.

I've already stated what I think on price. Regardless of what some think he's been independently adjudicated as one of the top wingers in the comp. It is insanity to move him on and pay more for someone who's not significantly better or paying less for someone worse - this is exactly how we got into salary cap problems.

I trust Madge, Hartigan and Nofo to make the right decisions. They will pay what they believe he's worth and he either takes it or moves on. I hope he stays but not at any cost. He's our first picked every week and a long way from our best paid - that says he's good value.

 

[TigerWest]

I know this forum likes to voice its opinnions and what not.

But i got none in re to Nofa, his been loyal, his never sold the club out, and i love watching him play.

I think nofa has earned the right to go where he wants to go! I hope he stays here, like a lot of people have said, he is probs the vision of Wt for the next couple years, I mean purely faced on the fact that if he plays for one more year and completes more than 10 tries, he will be the highest try scorer for Wt.


I dont think his worth more than 500k on paper, but i like rallying around a dream, I think thats him next year tbh, I could be wrong and thats ok, but I hope we retain him


I understand your love for Nofa, gosh I like the guy too, but emotional reaction doesn’t win premierships, and $500k will get you a winger who can score tries and tackle. I would offer Nofa no more than $325k plus vehicle and veterans allowance.

I just think the price of wingers are going up. the whole finding my way accidently to the try line saga needs to end. Wingers win games, espescially wingers like nofa that can cut in, seriously it the only reason i like him, show me another a winger that can do that as well as he can and im happy to say cya

What about wingers that get on the outside of their opponent like JAC did to Nofoaluma and sprint 70 or 80 metres for tries? Those who have the outright pace to run opponents down over distance. Those wingers that are match winners like JAC.

you literally said "What about wingers that get on the outside of their opponent like JAC did to Nofoaluma "

thats stuational and goood on him jesus, How about you tackle my question? wheres your wingers that can cut inside fam?

Real wingers demonstrate genuine pace. Where is the pace? Where is the pace on the chase like in SOO. A good club winger on max $ now. He's had one good year in attack, poor in defence and previous years on contract amount ordinary. Now he wants more? Sure test the market and join the Eels with Matto.

 please reply again in re to "pace"

google it yourself if you want, anyone thinking this bloke is slow I promise he aint

Even his biggest fans wouldn’t call him fast. He isn’t.

Club fans here are unfrogiving ill give you that

He’s not fast. He never has been. JAC burned past him in a millisecond. They’re just facts.

i think ive shown enough proof, you hide anything you want at this point

The proof was simply watching JAC run away from him.

im voting your comment cos it was so intellectual compared to mine

You’re kidding mate, this is a discussion/opinion forum not a down in the gutter win at all costs vote scoring forum, ease up with your back opinions, you will find it easier.


Quite right, apologies just got a bit heated I guess

Just gonna add in re to short sprint speed for nofa he doesnt get stopped on those 80 meter intercepts we all love watching, his got the ability to keep it up I reckon, nowhere near JAC for sure.

I don’t think he will go anywhere, do you?

I said earlier, I don’t believe he did write the letter.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Pretty disappointed with the majority of responses in this thread.

He's an integral part of our team, bleeds for the club and plays his heart out every time he steps on the field. On top of that he's easily in the top 3 wingers in the game at the moment, him winning the dally m makes that an undisputed claim. He would not be easily replaced

If we lost him it would be dark days for the club. Let's hope the club and him come to a resolution sooner than later

I don’t think he is going anyway and yes he does try, but everyone can be replaced, wasn’t he only recently dropped?

Wingers score tries mainly through team plays, granted he has scored some amazing tries though.

He is fast, but after all the years he played with us, his defence imo, has not really improved and as is important as scoring them.

I guess we will see how he goes next year.


His defence has been a real issue. He has let in more tries than he has scored.
People should not be influenced by awards when calculating Nofa’s asset value. The only thing that matters is..
1. Can he win games for us? How?
2. Can he lose games for us? How?
While some of the comments may appear negative to some, many are just constructive criticism from fans who want to start winning.

Oh for sure his defence is abysmal, I hate how often he gets caught coming inside to make the tackle on the centre and allows the opposing winger to have an easy one.

A lot of times Nofa rushes in because he’s left stranded with more than one player to mark.
His defence is not perfect, but it’s no where as bad as some people are making it out to be.
I think Nofa is a keep as long as he doesn’t try and over price himself.

 

[TigerWest]

Pretty disappointed with the majority of responses in this thread.

He's an integral part of our team, bleeds for the club and plays his heart out every time he steps on the field. On top of that he's easily in the top 3 wingers in the game at the moment, him winning the dally m makes that an undisputed claim. He would not be easily replaced

If we lost him it would be dark days for the club. Let's hope the club and him come to a resolution sooner than later

I don’t think he is going anyway and yes he does try, but everyone can be replaced, wasn’t he only recently dropped?

Wingers score tries mainly through team plays, granted he has scored some amazing tries though.

He is fast, but after all the years he played with us, his defence imo, has not really improved and as is important as scoring them.

I guess we will see how he goes next year.


His defence has been a real issue. He has let in more tries than he has scored.
People should not be influenced by awards when calculating Nofa’s asset value. The only thing that matters is..
1. Can he win games for us? How?
2. Can he lose games for us? How?
While some of the comments may appear negative to some, many are just constructive criticism from fans who want to start winning.

Oh for sure his defence is abysmal, I hate how often he gets caught coming inside to make the tackle on the centre and allows the opposing winger to have an easy one.


A lot of times Nofa rushes in because he’s left stranded with more than one player to mark.
His defence is not perfect, but it’s no where as bad as some people are making it out to be.
I think Nofa is a keep as long as he doesn’t try and over price himself.

There’s probably a reason why his wing is targeted so often though?

I think he is a keeper to, but he has not really improved his defensive work in all the time we have had him there, do agree in can start further inside, but it needs him to scream at the centre to stay with him.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

I am a really loyal player as long as you pay me what I want.

 

[Geo]

Wingers in general score a lot of TRIES cause they are marked by wingers

 

[voice_of_reason]

There’s probably a reason why his wing is targeted so often though?

I think he is a keeper to, but he has not really improved his defensive work in all the time we have had him there, do agree in can start further inside, but it needs him to scream at the centre to stay with him.

Actually I think this year the left wing was targeted more. Other teams were looking at the inexperience on the left wing with Talua, AK and Hoffman.

There's also the risk if they play to Nofo's wing he's far more likely to put on a counter attack. Exactly the reason people play away from JAC and Tedesco where possible.

 

[GNR4LIFE]

Noffa definitely ran over a few people’s dogs, The hate is quite irrational. To some, it matches the dribble people used to go on about with JT