Dear Buckets

My big gripe with this club is its lack of tougness on all levels. From the playing group up. Year after year we hear how other clubs fear but respect there coach. We hear how tough Maguire is, we hear how tough Paul Green is, we hear how tough Bellamy is, we hear how Bennett pulls no punches and has made huge tough calls over the years while always being backed by higher levels. Players have no choice but to abide.

However, at the Tigers it seems like as soon as a coach tries to stamp authority, tries to instill discipline, players revolt and the club back down leaving the coach vulnerable.

Sheens said when he left he would never let players have so much say again, blaming that for his demise. Potter comes in and tries to change what is obvious to all of us except our board and comes off second best with a soft playing group. Taylor comes in and tries do do the same but eventually fear of halves leaving the club, Farah not liking it, and generally a weak attitude amongst spoilt players see's his attempt at instilling tougness gone.

It's time to let players walk who can't handle what toughness is needed to compete in the NRL. They either like it or lump it. No questions. It wont take long before we have 17 players on the field who know they have to rip in every week.
 
@hobbo2803 said:
@tiga4eva said:
@Tigermama said:
@tiga4eva said:
My oldest son who's 14 sent an email addressed to Mark O'Neill and Justin Pascoe yesterday. Just about how disheartened we all are and how underperforming we are. It was well written and he didn't personally attack anyone. I'll let you guys know if he gets a response. But I warned him, by the looks of how mismanaged the Club is, he won't get one.

I feel for the kids that support WT.
It's harder on the youngsters watching their team lose then us older folks… I think!

We haven't finished in the top half of the Comp since he was 9\. If we all weren't so passionate we'd have given them away by now.

I've told my young fella , if he wants to follow another team he's more than free to do so .

I've done the same , his second favourite team is the Cowboys and I told him he can go support them if he wants

He staying strong , but for how long
 
@happy tiger said:
@hobbo2803 said:
@tiga4eva said:
@Tigermama said:
I feel for the kids that support WT.
It's harder on the youngsters watching their team lose then us older folks… I think!

We haven't finished in the top half of the Comp since he was 9\. If we all weren't so passionate we'd have given them away by now.

I've told my young fella , if he wants to follow another team he's more than free to do so .

I've done the same , his second favourite team is the Cowboys and I told him he can go support them if he wants

He staying strong , but for how long

By the time the bye comes around our boys could be wearing Cowboys and Panthers jerseys !! :astonished:
 
@hobbo2803 said:
@happy tiger said:
@hobbo2803 said:
@tiga4eva said:
We haven't finished in the top half of the Comp since he was 9\. If we all weren't so passionate we'd have given them away by now.

I've told my young fella , if he wants to follow another team he's more than free to do so .

I've done the same , his second favourite team is the Cowboys and I told him he can go support them if he wants

He staying strong , but for how long

By the time the bye comes around our boys could be wearing Cowboys and Panthers jerseys !! :astonished:

Well that makes sense seeing I signed with them

You replacing Te Maire ?? :smiley:
 
@happy tiger said:
@hobbo2803 said:
@happy tiger said:
@hobbo2803 said:
I've told my young fella , if he wants to follow another team he's more than free to do so .

I've done the same , his second favourite team is the Cowboys and I told him he can go support them if he wants

He staying strong , but for how long

By the time the bye comes around our boys could be wearing Cowboys and Panthers jerseys !! :astonished:

Well that makes sense seeing I signed with them

You replacing Te Maire ?? :smiley:

Nah mate , soward to 5/8 , Wallace back to 7 , segeyaro is back … It's called depth and we don't care about having 50% of our juniors in the side :laughing:
 
@Tigermama said:
@hobbo2803 said:
@rex2ce said:
I believe that Buckets is a myth, as Football Manager, he should have been at the Canberra game, and tore the players a new one behind closed doors before they got their pizza and beer.
The players should have travelled home ashamed of their performance, as I was ashamed of their effort when I turned the Tele off

Buckets was at the Canberra game , he was sitting right behind Taylor.

Then as the scoreline continued to climb, he did a bolt.
Maybe he went to placate the sponsors :mrgreen:

What an opportunity missed there,…...... A quick nudge and our problems solved . Well...partly . Who wrote that ? the devil made me say it
 
My whole family supports the Tigers. My eldest, 32, came home for the weekend and we spoke about how the team was going. He said that he been thinking of giving the Tigers away. When I asked why, he said he was "just sick of supporting a no-hoper club". A big statement. We were having drinks before the bbq and my son asked if I knew the score in the Raiders game? No, I replied.

Don't bother was all he said. Pretty apt - don't bother.
 
I feel for my 3 kids. They have every piece of merchandise and watch every game. Just give them a team they can cheer for occasionally,let alone one that could God forbid win a comp one day.
 
Jason Taylor has been on the right track since he came here. Toughness and discipline have been lacking in this place for years. He and his staff put in place a strict dietary regime for the players to follow and whether you agree with that or not, it's part of what is needed to be an elite athlete, even for the sake of being disciplined in your approach to being a First Grade player. You may have been appointed as Football Manager but I have to ask the question, does your job description include undermining the coaching and conditioning staff? Mark, elite athletes do not include pizza and beer in their diets and you are a manager, not a coach and not a professional trainer.

You have undermined the coach, giving players a belief that the coach is not in charge. The game has changed since you played but you don't seem to realise that. In your day it may have been OK for the players to have control but please don't try to take us back to your day. Sometimes small things have large consequences and I hope that you see that now. Please be more professional in your approach.

Things that you can do to turn this place around include properly planned recruiting of players who will leave nothing on the field and whose professional attitudes will spread to our younger players. Make it known to all players, regardless of their pay packets, that performance is everything and if we lose, the members and supporters can at least be proud of the effort. It's called pride in the jumper. If this doesn't happen, support the coach in dropping under performers and recruiting players who fit the winning culture that the coach is trying to implement. The club needs to be strong enough that nobody should be ashamed to play reserve grade for us.
 
@sideline eye said:
Jason Taylor has been on the right track since he came here. Toughness and discipline have been lacking in this place for years. He and his staff put in place a strict dietary regime for the players to follow and whether you agree with that or not, it's part of what is needed to be an elite athlete, even for the sake of being disciplined in your approach to being a First Grade player.

Just to add some facts to this. Gluten free is basically a scam. We had this discussion before. It is required for a very low percentage of the population and they have Celiac Disease. For most people gluten is in whole grains which are complex carbohydrates which are good for you.

This though typical of Taylor's approach. It's all talk but when you get into the details it's just palava.
 
Taylor was the instrument of his own undoing with his handling of Farah. We have a coaching consultant brought in by management and how is this to be interpreted? A lack of faith in Taylor's skills?
 
@cqtiger said:
My whole family supports the Tigers. My eldest, 32, came home for the weekend and we spoke about how the team was going. He said that he been thinking of giving the Tigers away. When I asked why, he said he was "just sick of supporting a no-hoper club". A big statement. We were having drinks before the bbq and my son asked if I knew the score in the Raiders game? No, I replied.

Don't bother was all he said. Pretty apt - don't bother.

Reminds me of my mother. When i was down at the game, she came with me and my gf. She doesn't follow the game that closely, she asked me how many games we had won and i said we'd won 2\. The look she gave me was if to say ''that would be right'', then we sat there and preceded to watch them get 60 points put on them.

It's embarrassing, i'm sick of us being referred to as a joke, and if someone asks you how they are going and you tell them not well, and they snicker as if they are not surprised. Does the club not understand this? You're a joke of a club with a joke of a reputation. Put your petty agenda's aside that you only push to benefit certain factions within the club, at the detriment to the rest of it.

How ironic our slogan is Unite, Commit, Achieve, when the very people telling us to do so can't do it themselves.
 
@sideline eye said:
Jason Taylor has been on the right track since he came here. Toughness and discipline have been lacking in this place for years. He and his staff put in place a strict dietary regime for the players to follow and whether you agree with that or not, it's part of what is needed to be an elite athlete, even for the sake of being disciplined in your approach to being a First Grade player. You may have been appointed as Football Manager but I have to ask the question, does your job description include undermining the coaching and conditioning staff? Mark, elite athletes do not include pizza and beer in their diets and you are a manager, not a coach and not a professional trainer.

You have undermined the coach, giving players a belief that the coach is not in charge. The game has changed since you played but you don't seem to realise that. In your day it may have been OK for the players to have control but please don't try to take us back to your day. Sometimes small things have large consequences and I hope that you see that now. Please be more professional in your approach.

Things that you can do to turn this place around include properly planned recruiting of players who will leave nothing on the field and whose professional attitudes will spread to our younger players. Make it known to all players, regardless of their pay packets, that performance is everything and if we lose, the members and supporters can at least be proud of the effort. It's called pride in the jumper. If this doesn't happen, support the coach in dropping under performers and recruiting players who fit the winning culture that the coach is trying to implement. The club needs to be strong enough that nobody should be ashamed to play reserve grade for us.

And can you please make the next Pizzas Peperoni and Anchovies , I love those little fishies. Or if that not possible. Can we have Mexican with sour cream, they're ok too.
 
I've told my young fella , if he wants to follow another team he's more than free to do so .

This is what i did to my young bloke,i just couldn't put him through the heart ache and dissappointment of being a WT fan so he chose the Storm ,while i loathe those pricks it was his choice,when they lose he huffs,puffs and sulks as if the worlds against him ,that's when i remind him that he is lucky he is not a WT supporter :laughing:
 
@stevetiger said:
@sideline eye said:
Jason Taylor has been on the right track since he came here. Toughness and discipline have been lacking in this place for years. He and his staff put in place a strict dietary regime for the players to follow and whether you agree with that or not, it's part of what is needed to be an elite athlete, even for the sake of being disciplined in your approach to being a First Grade player.

Just to add some facts to this. Gluten free is basically a scam. We had this discussion before. It is required for a very low percentage of the population and they have Celiac Disease. For most people gluten is in whole grains which are complex carbohydrates which are good for you.

This though typical of Taylor's approach. It's all talk but when you get into the details it's just palava.

Yes, I agree it's a scam diet but if that's what the coaching and conditioning staff want the players to do, provided that there's no harm in it, then that's what the players do. Buckets had no right to override them and the fact that he did only strengthens some players' hands in opposing the coach.
 

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