tig_prmz
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@dimitri said:
i dont like the ranga as our prime minister either.. i like that asian commie guy.. china here i come !!!
Despite the criticism, Our record with Moltz at fullback
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i dont like the ranga as our prime minister either.. i like that asian commie guy.. china here i come !!!
@happy tiger said:
I would say that has happened maybe twice, Im not saying that hes only ever dropped or not played at 2 bombs but I would say there has been maybe 2 games where you could point out a Moltzen dropped bomb as a key moment in a game.
And I would like to see Moltzen at 6 next year and Sirro in the backrow, hes to slow to defend at 6 for mine, the bulldogs ripped him to shreds
I would be happy with:
1\. Tedesco
6\. Moltz
7\. Benji
13\. Anasta
12\. Sirronen
11\. Blair
GNR4LIFE
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Thats a pretty weak back row Dermo
@magpiecol said:
I rate him as a fullback, i reckon he is a proper fullback, and when he plays we win more often. I think he is a superior fullback to Wright (Gardnier when fit), whare, Mullaney, and Zillman for this round. I actually prefer him to Minichiello as well. Col you are far from objective on Moltz, you blame him for the warriors loss, IMO ridiculous, and i know if any other player had of been there you would not be making the same calls.
Happy, I reckon there is one game where Moltz cost us the game and that was the Brisbane game, he was poor against Saints, but was far from Robinson Crusoe.
I think he was very good all the way through our winning streak and was great in a losing side against the Roosters, IMO our best.
I think you have decided that you dont like him, and look for his poor points, not his strengths.
I ve heard people saying that Moltz doesnt support the forwards, every time a forwards arms a free and he does not get there blokes blow up at moltz. Billy Slater rarely backs a forward up directly, and instead picks up off the support player. Moltz does this as well, not as well as slater, but he supports
tigersrule4life
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True Timmy Moltzen is our best option at fullback for this year we know he can play when he wants to im glad we re signed him fire up tigers.
tig_prmz
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people keep sugar coating everything on here.. he is criticised for the same thing he was criticised for last year and this year. you can pull out as many stats you like but there are no stats that defy the criticism.
all the fullbacks you named.. you know what? they all have full hearted goes rather than moltzen who sits back and NEVER puts him body on the line. it's his selfish timid attitude that he gets bagged for… come back to me when you have stats to prove otherwise.
all the fullbacks you named.. you know what? they all have full hearted goes rather than moltzen who sits back and NEVER puts him body on the line. it's his selfish timid attitude that he gets bagged for… come back to me when you have stats to prove otherwise.
Great stats, I am a Moltzen lover and i think he's going alright but we will never know if Tedesco would have been better because he got injured. Just because you kill it in Toyota cup doesn't mean that you are going to be our saviour in 1st grade. The step from Toyota cup to 1st grade is so huge now that a lot of players take time to find their feet., who's to say that Tedesco isn't one of those players??? we will never know. If we had a better option don't you think that Tim Sheens would use him?? It would be a shame to have Beau at fullback as he is just so much better on the wing. Tom Humble isn't the answer as some of you lovely people on this forum named him TOM FUMBLE. So who do we have left um, let me see TIM MOLTZEN.
GNR4LIFE
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@tigerkaz said:
Getting a bit carried away, i can't ever remember Tedesco being described that way by anyone. Maybe as a self confessed Moltzen lover your feeling a little threatened by Tedesco
innsaneink
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@dimitri said:
And what was your thoughts on Lui and his actions while he was still here?????
Get off your high horse
happy_tiger
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I have never said Moltzen is a cat . I have never said he is talentless
Moltzen's best position is 6 and when he wants Benji is arguably one of the top No 6 in the world so we don't need him there
If I have to say it again :brick: If Moltzen can find the form he displayed the last 8 weeks of 2011 you won't hear boo from me
But if every Moltzen lover can be absolutely honest with themselves he is no way even close to that form
And in my opinion (based on many years of playing the position) Tedesco is a born fullback and in 2-3 yeara when we talk about fullbacks (barring injury ) it will be Tim who and we will talk about Teddy the same way we talk about Woods
Moltzen's best position is 6 and when he wants Benji is arguably one of the top No 6 in the world so we don't need him there
If I have to say it again :brick: If Moltzen can find the form he displayed the last 8 weeks of 2011 you won't hear boo from me
But if every Moltzen lover can be absolutely honest with themselves he is no way even close to that form
And in my opinion (based on many years of playing the position) Tedesco is a born fullback and in 2-3 yeara when we talk about fullbacks (barring injury ) it will be Tim who and we will talk about Teddy the same way we talk about Woods
tigersrule4life
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I agree happytiger but his a good utilty for us next year as long as we resigned him atm we need him fullback too finish our charge to the finals.
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@Moltz92 said:
Source?
InBenjiWeTrust
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IMHO, Moltzen at FB often did not work. His big asset is speed, but we see it once a blue moon.
He does not contest high ball, and provides very little support in offence. He often looks disinterested, and does not pull his weight. His defence is acceptable, however, most people will remember his attempt to tackle Inu (last year) and nearly identical one of Parra's player (the last game).
My preferred FB is Tedesco, and I agree with some comments here that we shall replace 'like with like', so my pecking order would be: Tedesco, Humble, Meaney, Rudolph, Rowe, Ryan.
I do not see him as our 'utility player' either, IMHO Utai or Iosefa offer much more impact from the bench.
By saying that, I will be more than happy if he gets MOM in every game this season :slight_smile:
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He does not contest high ball, and provides very little support in offence. He often looks disinterested, and does not pull his weight. His defence is acceptable, however, most people will remember his attempt to tackle Inu (last year) and nearly identical one of Parra's player (the last game).
My preferred FB is Tedesco, and I agree with some comments here that we shall replace 'like with like', so my pecking order would be: Tedesco, Humble, Meaney, Rudolph, Rowe, Ryan.
I do not see him as our 'utility player' either, IMHO Utai or Iosefa offer much more impact from the bench.
By saying that, I will be more than happy if he gets MOM in every game this season :slight_smile:
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