DIRTY MANLY

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Why it's not just players who should face the judiciary
Paul Sheehan
Sydney Morning Herald columnist
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This is not a column about sport. It is a column about cynical violence. It is about actions which, in a different context, would see the actors in court. The primary object of this piece is to examine the conduct of a prominent rugby league coach, Geoff Toovey, and the thuggish misconduct of his players.

At Brookvale Oval on Friday night, in a televised match between heavyweight title contenders Manly and South Sydney, the most dangerous player on the visiting team, South Sydney's Greg Inglis, was repeatedly struck around the head by a succession of Manly players in a clear attempt to batter him into submission.

Here is the sequence of events:

The second minute: Inglis is the first Souths player to touch the ball and is hit by a swinging arm to the head by Manly player Kieran Foran. Two other Manly players, Glenn Stewart and Brenton Lawrence, pile onto him after the referee had called ''Play the ball''. Penalty to Souths.

The 11th minute: Inglis, in his second touch of the game, receives another forearm to the head, from Brett Stewart, as he is bundled into touch short of the try line.

The 19th minute: Inglis, in his third touch, is struck around the head for the third time. Manly forward Richie Fa'aoso piledrives him into the ground, head first. Penalty. Fa'aoso is placed on report by the referees for a dangerous tackle.

The 20th minute: Inglis has his head bandaged.

The 22nd minute: Inglis, in his fourth run of the game, is assaulted for a fourth time as Manly forward Jason King drives him into the turf. Another penalty to Souths. At this point even the game's greatest apologist for cheap shots, Channel Nine commentator Phil Gould, acknowledged the obvious: ''They've been really physical with Greg Inglis.''

The 28th minute: Brett Stewart elbows the head of another Souths player, behind the run of play. Penalty. He is placed on report.

The 41st minute: Inglis breaks the deadlock when he beats two defenders and races 50 metres to score the opening try.

The 43rd minute: After Inglis touches the ball for the second time in the second half he is spear tackled, again by Fa'aoso, and lands on his neck. Penalty. Fa'aoso placed on report, again, yet stays on the field.

Inglis is one of the biggest men on the field, which is fortunate because a smaller man could not have withstood so many dangerous hits.

The 47th minute: Manly's Steve Matai, who has been suspended 12 times for high or dangerous tackles, and penalised for innumerable other infractions, delivers a swinging arm to the head of Souths forward George Burgess.

Slow-motion replays show Matai's arm hitting Burgess' throat and grazing his chin. Burgess' mouth snaps open, he drops the ball and falls to the ground, dazed. A Manly player can be heard laughing.

This sparks a brief melee as Sam Burgess confronts Matai over the hit on his brother. Penalty to Souths. Matai is placed on report for the 14th time in the past seven seasons.

Sam Burgess asks the referee: ''When are we going to get an advantage? That's four times!''

A very good question. After four flagrantly dangerous tackles, and Manly players being placed on report four times, the team still has all its players and are able to mount a late charge against their battered opponents.

With Manly having so many players facing the judiciary this week, the person who must bear responsibility for this is head coach Toovey, who compounded the problem with ludicrous comments about the running style of Inglis, as if he was to blame for being thugged by Toovey's players.

Manly had a decision to make this week: contest some or all of the charges and run the risk of stiffer penalties imposed, or not to contest. It chose the prudent path and did not contest, given the televised evidence of guilt was self-evident in each case. Fa'aoso, the enforcer, was suspended for eight weeks. Matai, the head-hunter, was suspended for just one week. Stewart received no suspension, only penalty points.

Given that six different Manly players had belted Inglis, and four had been penalised for doing so, Toovey should have been called before the judiciary to explain the pattern. This never occurred to the judiciary. Instead, Toovey whined about the system being biased against penalised clubs.

He should be thankful he was not hauled before the disciplinary panel, which would have sent a message to every coach, and the public, that there will be consequences when a team targets a star player for a belting. Instead, the message sent is that the Australian Rugby League Commission remains in denial about the medical and legal dangers of concussion, as if it does not know or care about the ever-growing lawsuits in America over concussion and football.
 
can you imagine the outcry and up roar if manly were on the receiving end of these tackles?
if manly want to bring it on, then give it to them.
they are heading down the dirty tactics style of the team located south of the border.
 
Can't stand this side and Jamie Lyon has become the biggest sook in the League every penalty he is having a cry about it , he has left Ennis for dead.
 
It's a good point Burgess makes.

If manly complete the comeback they started and win the game what advantage do they receive from manly loosing 3 players the following week. Come the end of the year I'm thinking the minor premiership is going to be tight so two points could make a big difference.
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On the flip side I despise both manly and souths so I find it hard to gaf about any of their players well being. Torn.

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I thought it was an extremely obvious attempt, that was part of their game plan, to bash the comps best player out of the game. I have no problem with it if the shots are legal. People like Ingliss and Slater mong others expect to be targetted. But to be hit with 3 or 4 stiffies and then be pole driven head first twice….that crap is not on, should not be tollerated and is against the spirit of the game. Toovey has a hide like an elephant to whine like he did.

GI should be targetted and should be hit hard in gang tackles to lessen his impact. However this strategy must be within the rules. He is not breaking them yet is being victimised by those who do. He is playing within the spirit of the game and the least he could expect is that his opposition does the same. Like I said...hit him hard, hit him often...just keep it legal. Manly went out there to destroy him with illegal plays and I have no doubt Toovey sent them out there to do just that.

Just goes to show what a tough bastard Ingliss really is.....
 
Ahhh…. just like the good old days when you could bash the crap out of the opposing team.
Don't feel too bad for Inglis - didn't hear him apologising profusely when he knocked Dean Young into tomorrowland
with a cheap shot to the head.
If this stuff happens then take the necessary steps to either penalise or get it stopped for good and move on.
Sheehan sounds like a Bunny sympathiser anyway.
 
@foreveratiger said:
Can't stand this side and Jamie Lyon has become the biggest sook in the League every penalty he is having a cry about it , he has left Ennis for dead.

Robbie Farah doesn't mind having a whinge also.
 
Difference is ck, that hit on Young was a tackle gone wrong. What he copped the other night was a premeditated attack from numerous men following what looked like a game plan to take him out any way they could. That sort of thuggery went out in the 80's. I have nothing against hard play…I embrace it, but that was over the top and I was surprised we didn't see some binning.
 
thanks very much for posting that tiger al.

it has only been in recent times that the subject of Chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) has gained media attention, but i for one (having been knocked out more times than i can remember - pun intended :wink: ) am very concerned about the long term effects of this and agree with the article that harsher penalties need to be instated to obliterate this sort of thing from all sport.

stryker you are right on the money. like you, one thing i loved about playing league was being able to really hit and be hit - fairly - on the field.

i love to see the big hits. but league is an awesome sport without this sort of tactic, and i hate to hear of former players experiencing anxiety attacks, panic disorders, and psychological detriments.

prime example is former NFL player Junior Seau who shot himself. a kansas city chiefs player shot his girlfriend before shooting himself in front of his coach and manager. former pro wrestler chris benoit (granted, i believe steriods had a large part) killed his wife and child before himself.

sorry to go so heavy, but these are factual case examples of a horrific by product of multiple head traumas over years.

it simply has to stop and the only way is for what may initially seem like OTT penalties, but to stop people doing things that have to be, you need to make the consequences almost insanely harsh.
 
@stryker said:
Difference is ck, that hit on Young was a tackle gone wrong. What he copped the other night was a premeditated attack from numerous men following what looked like a game plan to take him out any way they could. That sort of thuggery went out in the 80's. I have nothing against hard play…I embrace it, but that was over the top and I was surprised we didn't see some binning.

Was being a bit flippant , stryker , but don't have any problem targeting anyone.
Always played to hurt people legally and was quite successful.
Unfortunately players are taught only to wrap up the ball now - their options of putting the hurt on someone is now usually a cheap shot.
 
Yes I hate Manly and Matai seems all you have to do to make it look like an accident is hit the ball first then slide your arm into their head and Hey That's not deliberate.

But that's how the game works to target an opposition player.
Call me a genius but I am betting our target will be Barba tomorrow night.
 
So what do people think about this Paul Sheehan's idea about going after the coaches when it is so blatent that the players have been ordered to go out and commit foul play?
 
@stryker said:
I thought it was an extremely obvious attempt, that was part of their game plan, to bash the comps best player out of the game. I have no problem with it if the shots are legal. People like Ingliss and Slater mong others expect to be targetted. **But to be hit with 3 or 4 stiffies** and then be pole driven head first twice….that crap is not on, should not be tollerated and is against the spirit of the game. Toovey has a hide like an elephant to whine like he did.

GI should be targetted and should be hit hard in gang tackles to lessen his impact. However this strategy must be within the rules. He is not breaking them yet is being victimised by those who do. He is playing within the spirit of the game and the least he could expect is that his opposition does the same. Like I said...hit him hard, hit him often...just keep it legal. Manly went out there to destroy him with illegal plays and I have no doubt Toovey sent them out there to do just that.

Just goes to show what a tough bastard Ingliss really is.....

Was that on the field or in the showers after the match :slight_smile:

So what….a star player got targetted by a team (either legally or illegally), big deal, it has happened ever since the game of RL was formed. Inglis is hardly an angel who never resorts to questionable incidents either.

As for "it just goes to show what a tough bastard Inglis really is"....how tough is his missus then if she can absorb a beating from the tough guy himself?

The only real disturbing decision to come out of that game is that Brett Stewart can elbow a bloke in the head who was nowhere near the football (even though it wasn't very forceful) and not get suspended. Not a good message to send to the kiddies.
 
The point of the article was that Toovey should cop something for his obvious strategy in that game. You can't have star players attacked with head highs over and again. It is a shocking look for the game. Ingliss can be contained with good defence. Knocking his block off every touch is grubby bull crap.
 

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