Disgrace - Origin Draw

[Russell]

Believe it when I see it.

Daly and Fulton have the best "deaf ears" in the business.

 

[Club_Sandwich]

The funny thing is that the Warriors and Knoghts benefit most and they are still rubbish

 

[eyewonder]

the logic being woods,farah and teddy come back to the tigers better players.

three local juniors- that has to be a credit to the junior leagues clubs.

the whole state of origin thing needs a rethink.it has become a very tired concept,in my opinion.

 

[rialto]

SO we have not made the finals for going on 5 seasons. Were a club battling for every win. Taylor needs wins to save his job, club needs wins to keep the fans interested etc etc.

We come to a point in the season where we are still in the mix. 2 or 3 wins a row and we can enter this Top 8 with some confidence. Teams Like the Warriors, Titans, Dragons, Penrith, I think we can bet better then them and come over the top of them.

Yet here we are facing a season defining game against Canterbury with probably no Woods, no Farah and no Tedesco. So our of our bigger matches for the last 5 seasons and a dead rubber Origin means our best sit out. We miss players in 2 key positions. Chance of building further confidence and momentum gone?

Look I know Canterbury have some out (Klemmer, Jackson) however we are weaker off then them. I know we are hardly the only club affected. However look at the Warriors and how they get a free pass these 6 weeks during Origin, we are in contention with them for the Top 8, every 2 points is vital?? Dragons played a weak Storm and Cows during Origin, almost like 4 free points, again a team right in the same race we are in.

I just think this is a joke and other elite competitions would laugh at the NRL. The clubs pay these players and rely on winning games to keep the money flowing. Yet after a good win last night we now face putting out our fringe playrs giving us way less chance against the Bulldogs.

Do have some sympathy with Eddie here. Dogs in top 4 with 2 (?) players out, Tigers trying to get into top 8 with 3 players out. Still I'm happy for Teddy he certainly deserves it! Everyone just pray he isn't injured!

 

[stryker]

Well Rialto, that simply is the product of the dogs playing consistent footy throughout the season with a good side rather than a team full of stars.

 

[Fade_To_Black]

We are hardly a team full of stars though.

 

[Bengaliwolf]

You could argue that there is a significant advantage having your byes the week before origin considering most players back up the week after origin. I admit that's not always the case but on the whole there is more advantage to the teams who have the bye pre-origin as opposed to post-origin.

The Eels lose out most here with both of their byes coming after origin. The Raiders, Tigers, Roosters, Cowboys, Bulldogs and Dragons all have one before and one after. And the big winners out of origin are the Warriors, Sharks, Storm, Panthers, Rabbitohs, Titans, Sea Eagles, Broncos and Knights with both byes before origin.

I will admit that this is no guarantee of points but on the surface it doesn't seem to be a fair system. If you wanted to calculate the impact more accurately, I guess you'd have to calculate the win loss ratio for the teams during origin and add weighting to ladder positions, whether the game was home or away, how many star players were out for origin and what impact they would have had on that game. Essentially, you couldn't calculate it.

The only way to make it fair would be to schedule a whole weekend of byes for every team at origin. I don't want that option because I'd rather have an unfair system and get to watch footy this weekend than have a weekend with no action.

 

[innsaneink]

You could argue that there is a significant advantage having your byes the week before origin considering most players back up the week after origin. I admit that's not always the case but on the whole there is more advantage to the teams who have the bye pre-origin as opposed to post-origin.

The Eels lose out most here with both of their byes coming after origin. The Raiders, Tigers, Roosters, Cowboys, Bulldogs and Dragons all have one before and one after. And the big winners out of origin are the Warriors, Sharks, Storm, Panthers, Rabbitohs, Titans, Sea Eagles, Broncos and Knights with both byes before origin.

I will admit that this is no guarantee of points but on the surface it doesn't seem to be a fair system. If you wanted to calculate the impact more accurately, I guess you'd have to calculate the win loss ratio for the teams during origin and add weighting to ladder positions, whether the game was home or away, how many star players were out for origin and what impact they would have had on that game. Essentially, you couldn't calculate it.

The only way to make it fair would be to schedule a whole weekend of byes for every team at origin. I don't want that option because I'd rather have an unfair system and get to watch footy this weekend than have a weekend with no action.

Just add this to the long listlist of inequalities and unfairness this competition lives oni

Would there be another pro comp in the world as uneven as the NRL?

 

[NT_Tiger]

…....... Still I'm happy for Teddy he certainly deserves it! Everyone just pray he isn't injured!

The 'elite sportsmen' north of the border will be sharpening their spears as we speak.