Does our strength and conditioning coach....

@Flippedy said:
Know how to actually strengthen and condition the players?
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What are you talking about Flip ?? They are conditioned , conditioned to get injured Keeps leeds and others on their toes

Roycie will be planning to injure someone next ,probably with a tennis ball
 
If a coach has 15 straight losses, he'd be sacked. Surely 15 players out in half a dozen games requires some scrutiny of the strength and conditioning team..?

Things like broken bones I can accept as its usually just a freak accident, but muscular injuries like strains, tears etc comes down to how the muscles are conditioned. Either they're not strong enough or they're not warning up properly.

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We win matches everyone is safe, we continue to lose and even the admin clerk is at risk of losing their job.

I still believe when players from other clubs join us they get soft and weak. lose their potency.
And when our players get injured they stay out for long periods
 
@alex said:
If a coach has 15 straight losses, he'd be sacked. Surely 15 players out in half a dozen games requires some scrutiny of the strength and conditioning team..?

Things like broken bones I can accept as its usually just a freak accident, but muscular injuries like strains, tears etc comes down to how the muscles are conditioned. Either they're not strong enough or they're not warning up properly.

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Not true at all! Have u or do u work in strength n conditioning? From ur comment I am guessing not, players doing tears or ligament problems isn't because of the trainers, there conditioning program is elite like any other clubs and they warm up thoroughly and specifically before training and games

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@tigerlogic said:
@alex said:
If a coach has 15 straight losses, he'd be sacked. Surely 15 players out in half a dozen games requires some scrutiny of the strength and conditioning team..?

Things like broken bones I can accept as its usually just a freak accident, but muscular injuries like strains, tears etc comes down to how the muscles are conditioned. Either they're not strong enough or they're not warning up properly.

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Not true at all! Have u or do u work in strength n conditioning? From ur comment I am guessing not, players doing tears or ligament problems isn't because of the trainers, there conditioning program is elite like any other clubs and they warm up thoroughly and specifically before training and games

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Have you tried playing sport without warming up properly? You're many times more susceptible to injury
 
I don't want to be too harsh. All our coaches are good loyal WT's people that obviously love the club. The likes of Royce, Georgallis, Mcdonnell, Skando, Leeds, Payten etc. Now Payten obviously did a great job in year 1\. However some of others, there probably just the cheap option and there is a sense of staleness.

The fact that we have made 3 finals in 10 years, we get the most injuries most years, our recruitment is average most years, our defence is bad most years, we are undersized most years.

The place needs some fresh minds and sharper minds in general. Whether they have the cash to do it is another matter. I feel we are behind the the eight ball with our football department compared to most clubs. I only base this on what I see on the field each year.
 
In regards to OP, i'd say there's a very, VERY good chance there'll be a review of every aspect relating to the players and their physical health. It's gone beyond excessive and to say it's a concern would be an understatement. The club will surely look at training both in pre season and week to week throughout the season. Rehab and recovery measures for injured players, and the measures taken to recover from games. I think it would also be fair to suggest that those in charge of the players fitness and wellbeing will also put under the microscope too.

Yes, we can put it down to bad luck, or a freak of nature but I would feel a lot better if the club simply reviewed it operations in this area.
 
@Eddie said:
I don't want to be too harsh. All our coaches are good loyal WT's people that obviously love the club. The likes of Royce, Georgallis, Mcdonnell, Skando, Leeds, Payten etc. Now Payten obviously did a great job in year 1\. However some of others, there probably just the cheap option and there is a sense of staleness.

The fact that we have made 3 finals in 10 years, we get the most injuries most years, our recruitment is average most years, our defence is bad most years, we are undersized most years.

The place needs some fresh minds and sharper minds in general. Whether they have the cash to do it is another matter. I feel we are behind the the eight ball with our football department compared to most clubs. I only base this on what I see on the field each year.
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Totally agree with everything you say Eddie. It's one thing to have passionate clubmen still giving their all for the club… But at the end of the day we're a results-based business. If they can't bring us results then ultimately the business will suffer.

It's not all doom and gloom when you get rid of high-profile players either. In the last two seasons South Sydney have had Sandow and Dave Taylor leave, and are now sitting in outright 2nd. Manly let T-Rex go. Titans said goodbye to Prince. And the difference between all these examples and us is that most of these guys were performing pretty well! I think it's time we come down hard and cut the love affair with certain players and staff.
 
Plenty of reasons for injuries could be listed I'm sure but for those that occurred against the Broncos I think previous injury must be a factor for Lawrence and Moltzen, at the end of the day both suffered very serious injuries in the past and their bodies will never be back to the same strength that they were pre- original injury hence they are susceptible to further injury. In the case of Ashyford I recall him being hit very hard by a number of players in the tackle and this is another point, players are big and strong nowadays and when they hit, they certainly hit and the thuds can be heard by spectators it just takes a players body to be at the wrong angle when hit or dragged down and the risk of injury has to go up. The players spend a lot of time warming up prior to games in fact I wonder how they can turn around and play a game due to the amount of warm up they do.
 
I'd agree Cunno. With Aysh, it was a real solid tackle, and you could see a lot of pressure fall below as he got wrenched to the ground. Bad luck more than anything. Lawrence definitely is seeing the effects of his hip injury. It appears certain he'll be troubled long term by constant hamstring strains. As for Moltz, it's horribly unlucky in the first place. It can happen though on the turn of direction. These are all just signs of the risks these players put on the line when they go out there.
 
In the words of the great Wayne Bennett, the human body isn't made to play Rugby league.

Looking through the injuries most are impact and twisting injuries, unpreventable. (Galloway and Lawrence the exception)

In general, too many soft tissue injuries is usually a S & C question mark.

Interestingly at a training camp I was at, I was chatting with a guy about all the Pec injuries which is a brand new injury to the sport, and he had a theory (aside from the new tackling technique which has to play a role) he reckoned it was to do with the building of the bigger muscle groups around the pec putting increased prssure on the muscle, I dont have the knowledge to explain it properly or know whether it makes sense, but it was interesting.
 
I've heard its the wrestling nature the game has taken along with everybody tackling higher on the body, wrapping up the ball. Before you tackled around the two spindley legs, now its the huge chest and arms. Don't know if this is true, but sound like its on the money?
 
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