Don’t stand for the anthem!’

yeah, good on you Mundane! put pressure on JT, if he wanted to do it he would, at least his protest would carry some weight, because he is not a complete tool like him. i still love the way JT picks up the kicking tee after every shot and hands it to the ball boy. gives away his head gear every game.

why doesn't Mundane just protest in silence! like say nothing to the media for the next 60 years.

this is not racist i just dont like Mundane

I think a more powerful message is if they all stood side by side and sang in unity!
 
@innsaneink said:
Surprise surpise….

FORMER rugby league star-turned boxer Anthony Mundine has called for Indigenous and non-Indigenous players to boycott the national anthem at this weekend’s NRL grand final.
**<big>“Been saying this for years ! The anthem was written in late 1700s where blackfullas were considered fauna (animals) advance Australia fair as in white not fair as in fair go</big>** >

News to me.
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It's amazing Mundine was a pretty good player considering how awfully stupid he is. I'd imagine Aboriginal activists must cringe when he talks, because he lowers the intelligence of every debate.

Considering Australia was colonised (or invaded) in 1788, when does he think the anthem was written?
 
@Masterton said:
@innsaneink said:
Surprise surpise….

FORMER rugby league star-turned boxer Anthony Mundine has called for Indigenous and non-Indigenous players to boycott the national anthem at this weekend’s NRL grand final.
**<big>“Been saying this for years ! The anthem was written in late 1700s where blackfullas were considered fauna (animals) advance Australia fair as in white not fair as in fair go</big>** >

News to me.

It's amazing Mundine was a pretty good player considering how awfully stupid he is. I'd imagine Aboriginal activists must cringe when he talks, because he lowers the intelligence of every debate.

Considering Australia was colonised (or invaded) in 1788, when does he think the anthem was written?
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He talks about ignorant attitudes in his little rant too. Dripping with so much irony it needs to be mopped up with a towel. Grade A moron.
 
Always been pretty simple for me .
You stand for for the Anthem and you stand for the Ode.
If someone isn't standing you tap them on the shoulder and remind them they must not not have heard it.
Mundine is happy to accept all the good things the country has afforded him while still putting crap on it.
Sure, things aren't perfect, however his ridiculous divisive comments don't help his people.
 
@criwdfluffer said:
I dont rate the flag or the anthem. I don't feel represented by either.

And I don't like all the chest beating that goes with them.
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You dont have to like it but you should respect it. Alot of people have bled and died for your right to make that statement never forget that. The reason you get your opinion is because of the people that fought for that flag. It has always pained me that people knock the flag but forget the people that gave their heart, soul and lives to make this country great. It has nothing to do with chest beating for the people that define it as a symbol whether you agree with that symbol or not.
 
@criwdfluffer said:
I dont rate the flag or the anthem. I don't feel represented by either.

And I don't like all the chest beating that goes with them.
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No one is forcing you to live here, you can always move to a country that has a flag that suits your nature.
No one is going to miss you bye.
 
@hodgo said:
@criwdfluffer said:
I dont rate the flag or the anthem. I don't feel represented by either.

And I don't like all the chest beating that goes with them.

You dont have to like it but you should respect it. Alot of people have bled and died for your right to make that statement never forget that. The reason you get your opinion is because of the people that fought for that flag. It has always pained me that people knock the flag but forget the people that gave their heart, soul and lives to make this country great. It has nothing to do with chest beating for the people that define it as a symbol whether you agree with that symbol or not.
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You are completely incorrect, Advance Australia Fair was instated as our national anthem in 1974 after a plebiscite, and very few drops of blood were shed, nor bodies dropped, in the process.
 
@criwdfluffer said:
I dont rate the flag or the anthem. I don't feel represented by either.

And I don't like all the chest beating that goes with them.
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Cant say Ive seen much chest beating tbh…where/when does this occur?
 
yeah,the plebiscite or referendum gave people three choices - song of australia,waltzing matilda and a.a.f.

it took australians a while to warm to a song which was written in the previous century- the patriotic slant which paul keating wanted is now present at the olympics,footy games etc.

i dont like it when i see kids or adults not showing respect when the anthem is played.just stand there and wait till it finishes.it isnt hard.
i do the same when other countries anthems are being played.it will be over soon.

learning and showing respect to others is one of lifes challenges.the world is a poorer place without it.
 
@eyewonder said:
yeah,the plebiscite or referendum gave people three choices - song of australia,waltzing matilda and a.a.f.

it took australians a while to warm to a song which was written in the previous century- the patriotic slant which paul keating wanted is now present at the olympics,footy games etc.

i dont like it when i see kids or adults not showing respect when the anthem is played.just stand there and wait till it finishes.it isnt hard.
i do the same when other countries anthems are being played.it will be over soon.

learning and showing respect to others is one of lifes challenges.the world is a poorer place without it.
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Yep well said
"learning to show respect to others is one of life's challenges.the world is a poorer place without it"
 
Mundine says things for affect, to get people talking about him. And people are happy to oblige him every time. Even going back all the way to his 9/11 comments. The best response is no response at all.
 
Whether you like the Anthem or the flag is irrelevant. What makes you think your opinion outweighs the majority? Stop being so selfish and have a bit of pride in your country. Not all of its history is bad.

Those who take the side of Williams, Mundine etc are every bit as divisive and racist as they are. Simple as that.
 
If it was "I come from a land down under " and the flag was the boxing kangaroo I would feel more obliged.

But I'm dammed if I'm gonna happily sing along adoringly to British colonial bull crap just so I can fit in with daily telegraph types.

And jftr I love Australia, I won't be going anywhere and my friends would miss me if I left.
 
@criwdfluffer said:
**If it was "I come from a land down under " and the flag was the boxing kangaroo I would feel more obliged.**

But I'm dammed if I'm gonna happily **sing along adoringly to British colonial bull crap** just so I can fit in with daily telegraph types.

And jftr I love Australia, I won't be going anywhere and my friends would miss me if I left.
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You should do a bit of history - 'Down Under' was written by Scottish immigrant as a bit of fun.
Its references to boozing , getting stoned and spewing are all good fun (one of my favourite songs) but not necessarily national anthem material (unless you're name is Barry McKenzie).
'Advance Australia Fair' was also written by a Scottish immigrant only because he was proud of Australia and believed we deserved our own anthem.
As for the boxing kangaroo flag - although around in various forms for many years it was popularised by a Pommie immigrant and crook named Alan Bond who owned the rights to it (now owned by Australia's Olympic committee).

Hope that makes you feel more Aussie and less beholdin' to our British colonial bull crap past.

PS. Nobody asks you to sing along 'adoringly' or even sing at all.
Standing up while it is played to honour your country, and the people who fought and died to let you voice your opinion, will do just fine.
 
@stryker said:
Whether you like the Anthem or the flag is irrelevant. What makes you think your opinion outweighs the majority? Stop being so selfish and have a bit of pride in your country. Not all of its history is bad.

Those who take the side of Williams, Mundine etc are every bit as divisive and racist as they are. Simple as that.
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Why do the likes of Williams and Mundine have to conform to a Australia that they do not agree with, that is a country that was stolen from that their people, that there is no treaty or peace or any other agreement?

Yes they may be against the majority but what if the Japanese had taken over OZ 70 years ago, should the Aussies have to salute the Rising Sun and sing their anthem??? Should be they forced to concede Japanese ownership and occupation just because the Japanese had brutally and illegally taken over the place.

I will never have pride in a flag that contains the Union Jack - because of what it stands for: exploitation, robbery etc. etc.
 
@criwdfluffer said:
If it was "I come from a land down under " and the flag was the boxing kangaroo I would feel more obliged.

But I'm dammed if I'm gonna happily sing along adoringly to British colonial bull crap just so I can fit in with daily telegraph types.

And jftr I love Australia, I won't be going anywhere and my friends would miss me if I left.
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Great attitude. You have the right to do that and its already been explained to you why you have that right.
 
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