Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon

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Do you like modern hospitals & a great health service? Do you like to drive on well maintained roads & highways? Do you think we should have an equitable, safe, dignified Aged Care Service? Child Care Services? Do you think we should have modern up to date infrastructure that enables business to operate more efficiently with greater profitability? Do you believe we should have a world class education system to provide a world class workforce?

These things don't grow on trees. Tax isn't a dirty word.

Power was a lot cheaper, employed more workers, was more unionised, better maintained and returned dividends to government (thus to the budget to spend on better services) prior to privatisation.

Like power generation/transmission, just about ANY previously publically owned, dividend returning asset you can name that has been privatised has ended up costing consumers more, for a less well maintained service with job losses & profit prioritised over customer service.

I can't think of any previous dividend earning public asset being cheaper for consumers or providing a better, well maintained service once privatised in my nearly 60 years on this planet.
What you illude to, which I agree with, in a slightly different way, is your mention of dividends back to the public purse.

This doesn't need to be achieved by making every aspect of society publically owned.

We can invest money into a soveriegn wealth fund which returns dividends, or revenue, to use a better term to pay for these things.

What is clear, with say, healthcare, or aged care as you mention is the system worked when we had a younger population. The workers paid in to cover a smaller ageing population.

Today, our population is far older and the burden on the tax payer, as a percentage is far higher. We try to solve this by pumping up tax revenues through immigration. The untold story is that it has had a major impact on housing demand and prices, locking out a generation of people to the housing market.

Investing in a soverign wealth fund means the tax payer invests that dollar once and it provides a return. Today, we spend everything we get and borrow to cover the shortfall. You're heading for disaster if you do this in your own home and you're headed for disaster if you do this with your country.

Tax, frankly is a dirty word especially when it's wasted. Not all, but a lot of money is frittered. It would be nice if governments respected how hard we worked for it and tried to get us a return rather than spending the lot.
 
It affects the less well off in proportionally than the wealthier people who he's actually helped make even wealthier. Austerity doesn't work....just ask any Italian or Greek. Cutting corporate taxes doesn't equate to more jobs, better wages or more foreign investment (unless you create an unscrupulous tax haven) it only leads to greater profit taking, monopolization of certain sectors and like we see in populist controlled nations a growing oligarchy with too much say in government policy.

I'd like to see just how much "better off" the average Argentinian is by the end of his term. I'd be prepared to go out on a limb and say they will have gone backwards without any improvement.
The reason we have had high inflation is because of the bad economic decisions and "money printing" by governments during COVID.

That would be Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's US government, Boris Johnson's UK government and Scott Morrison's AUS government.

They overcooked their own and the world's economy leading to run away inflation and a struggling supply chain trying to keep up with artificially stimulated demand.
 
It is a pity we cannot get Howard and Costello back together.

Tax, frankly is a dirty word especially when it's wasted. Not all, but a lot of money is frittered. It would be nice if governments respected how hard we worked for it and tried to get us a return rather than spending the lot. The only shame with dumb Politicians who make these Grose errors they are not made to pay it back.
 
Do you like modern hospitals & a great health service? Do you like to drive on well maintained roads & highways? Do you think we should have an equitable, safe, dignified Aged Care Service? Child Care Services? Do you think we should have modern up to date infrastructure that enables business to operate more efficiently with greater profitability? Do you believe we should have a world class education system to provide a world class workforce?

These things don't grow on trees. Tax isn't a dirty word.

Power was a lot cheaper, employed more workers, was more unionised, better maintained and returned dividends to government (thus to the budget to spend on better services) prior to privatisation.

Like power generation/transmission, just about ANY previously publically owned, dividend returning asset you can name that has been privatised has ended up costing consumers more, for a less well maintained service with job losses & profit prioritised over customer service.

I can't think of any previous dividend earning public asset being cheaper for consumers or providing a better, well maintained service once privatised in my nearly 60 years on this planet.
We don't have any of those things now, despite being one of the more highly-taxed, developed countries.

The hospital system is pumped, been to an ER lately? How's the ramping situation?

Roads and highways up to snuff where you are? I'll buy a ticket there.

The best aged care in the country is private. Always will be.

Childcare is a government supported rort. The prices are outrageous and, besides, that industry only exists so they can entice more women back to work to pump up the tax balloon instead of incentivising and supporting them to stay home.

Infrastructure? how're the reviews of the public transport systems around the majors going? How's the building sector? Approvals up are they?

The education system is broken. The bottom of the bucket has fallen out and they can't fill classrooms. What's more is the state bodies have their heads up their own proverbials, wishing for a educational utopia and grinding their workforce into the dust to do it. Believe me, I'm one of them.

So those points are completely moot. The models of Australian soft-socialism that used to function well are a shambles.

Power is not more expensive now because it is privatised. It is more expensive because the renewables push is artificially squeezing the public at both ends of the spectrum under governments such as ours that are beholden to global bodies, particularly on things like emissions.

The carbon taxes being levied, rightly or wrongly, against big companies is just being passed on down, yet feed in tariffs for those who did the 'right thing' and got solar panels, are being slashed. Meaning that not only are you getting forced into renewables, you're also getting less and less back for doing so, then paying out the nose for night time use or a battery technology that is woefully underdeveloped for the price point and return on investment that you currently get.
 
Interesting take.

So your opinion is that despite his will to do the things he promised and a clear attempt to take real action, your view is either it is all hot air or it is impossible to achieve what he has set out to achieve?

Or perhaps, it is all too complicated for Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon yet jirskyr understands these complications from his keyboard in Australia, but Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and his team, with the huge breadth of resources and information at hand, has no idea how complicated things are?

I think the guy and his team deserve a bit more credit than that.

Not you again 🤮🤮🤮😝
 
We don't have any of those things now, despite being one of the more highly-taxed, developed countries.

The hospital system is pumped, been to an ER lately? How's the ramping situation?

Roads and highways up to snuff where you are? I'll buy a ticket there.

The best aged care in the country is private. Always will be.

Childcare is a government supported rort. The prices are outrageous and, besides, that industry only exists so they can entice more women back to work to pump up the tax balloon instead of incentivising and supporting them to stay home.

Infrastructure? how're the reviews of the public transport systems around the majors going? How's the building sector? Approvals up are they?

The education system is broken. The bottom of the bucket has fallen out and they can't fill classrooms. What's more is the state bodies have their heads up their own proverbials, wishing for a educational utopia and grinding their workforce into the dust to do it. Believe me, I'm one of them.

So those points are completely moot. The models of Australian soft-socialism that used to function well are a shambles.

Power is not more expensive now because it is privatised. It is more expensive because the renewables push is artificially squeezing the public at both ends of the spectrum under governments such as ours that are beholden to global bodies, particularly on things like emissions.

The carbon taxes being levied, rightly or wrongly, against big companies is just being passed on down, yet feed in tariffs for those who did the 'right thing' and got solar panels, are being slashed. Meaning that not only are you getting forced into renewables, you're also getting less and less back for doing so, then paying out the nose for night time use or a battery technology that is woefully underdeveloped for the price point and return on investment that you currently get.
Well everything there could be improved with more investment.

I'd have our hospitals, healthcare system, roads & infrastructure over that of the US any day! Have you seen or heard how bad it is over there? Yet they have 60 times our population!!

By way of comparison, you'd have to go to smaller relatively rich European countries with higher taxes to get better than what we have here considering how huge a place it is and our small, spread out population.

Power prices started going up WELL before the push for renewables. I should know, both I and an ex Fiance used to work for what was then the Sydney County Council, now part of Energy Australia in the mid to late eighties.
Prices rose almost immediately (after we were all told they'd be cheaper) after privatisation.
Blackouts became more common as infrastructure such as transmission lines, insulators and even transformers failed, with a spate of transformer explosions and/or fires hit multiple substations across the network.
Beholden to Global Bodies? That are trying to preserve a livable planet for those younger than us to the yet to be born? Or you'd rather be beholden to mostly foreign conglomerates that have had a hold on us for years and don't want to relinquish the money & power that comes with it?
Even if I didn't care about the environment, I'm saving a packet having "green solar" power

Public education has been bled dry whilst so called "private" schools have received record funding thanks mainly due to Coalition governments, with Howard being the catalyst for that.

If successive governments didn't squander what little dividends they got from the resources sector or more importantly taxed the big multinationals more for OUR resources they are digging up or drilling for rediculously low cost is near on criminal. Qatar, Norway & other nations have the multinationals pay a fair share of tax and establishing sovereign wealth funds. We have governments (usually of certain a political stripe) that want to give the Reinharts, Forrests, Chevrons, Woodsides, Shells etc of the world a TAX CUT.

Tax the big corporations at a fair rate, reduce what they can use to claim deductions like internal loans, setting up an office in a tax haven for profits made here and all the other dodgy crap they get away with then we'd have much more money to fix what we are already lucky to have compared to most countries when it comes to hospitals, roads & other infrastructure. Just imagine how much money the Mining Super Profits Tax (the ones the Coalition said would raise no money so they dumped it) would have made in the last decade, most of it a mining boom.

Income Tax cuts for the wealthy was the Coalitions plan, luckily someone fixed that and everyone got a cut. However wouldn't that money have been better off spent on health or infrastructure?
 
Well everything there could be improved with more investment.

I'd have our hospitals, healthcare system, roads & infrastructure over that of the US any day! Have you seen or heard how bad it is over there? Yet they have 60 times our population!!

By way of comparison, you'd have to go to smaller relatively rich European countries with higher taxes to get better than what we have here considering how huge a place it is and our small, spread out population.

Power prices started going up WELL before the push for renewables. I should know, both I and an ex Fiance used to work for what was then the Sydney County Council, now part of Energy Australia in the mid to late eighties.
Prices rose almost immediately (after we were all told they'd be cheaper) after privatisation.
Blackouts became more common as infrastructure such as transmission lines, insulators and even transformers failed, with a spate of transformer explosions and/or fires hit multiple substations across the network.
Beholden to Global Bodies? That are trying to preserve a livable planet for those younger than us to the yet to be born? Or you'd rather be beholden to mostly foreign conglomerates that have had a hold on us for years and don't want to relinquish the money & power that comes with it?
Even if I didn't care about the environment, I'm saving a packet having "green solar" power

Public education has been bled dry whilst so called "private" schools have received record funding thanks mainly due to Coalition governments, with Howard being the catalyst for that.

If successive governments didn't squander what little dividends they got from the resources sector or more importantly taxed the big multinationals more for OUR resources they are digging up or drilling for rediculously low cost is near on criminal. Qatar, Norway & other nations have the multinationals pay a fair share of tax and establishing sovereign wealth funds. We have governments (usually of certain a political stripe) that want to give the Reinharts, Forrests, Chevrons, Woodsides, Shells etc of the world a TAX CUT.

Tax the big corporations at a fair rate, reduce what they can use to claim deductions like internal loans, setting up an office in a tax haven for profits made here and all the other dodgy crap they get away with then we'd have much more money to fix what we are already lucky to have compared to most countries when it comes to hospitals, roads & other infrastructure. Just imagine how much money the Mining Super Profits Tax (the ones the Coalition said would raise no money so they dumped it) would have made in the last decade, most of it a mining boom.

Income Tax cuts for the wealthy was the Coalitions plan, luckily someone fixed that and everyone got a cut. However wouldn't that money have been better off spent on health or infrastructure?
Nailed it Daz
 
Well everything there could be improved with more investment.

I'd have our hospitals, healthcare system, roads & infrastructure over that of the US any day! Have you seen or heard how bad it is over there? Yet they have 60 times our population!!

By way of comparison, you'd have to go to smaller relatively rich European countries with higher taxes to get better than what we have here considering how huge a place it is and our small, spread out population.

Power prices started going up WELL before the push for renewables. I should know, both I and an ex Fiance used to work for what was then the Sydney County Council, now part of Energy Australia in the mid to late eighties.
Prices rose almost immediately (after we were all told they'd be cheaper) after privatisation.
Blackouts became more common as infrastructure such as transmission lines, insulators and even transformers failed, with a spate of transformer explosions and/or fires hit multiple substations across the network.
Beholden to Global Bodies? That are trying to preserve a livable planet for those younger than us to the yet to be born? Or you'd rather be beholden to mostly foreign conglomerates that have had a hold on us for years and don't want to relinquish the money & power that comes with it?
Even if I didn't care about the environment, I'm saving a packet having "green solar" power

Public education has been bled dry whilst so called "private" schools have received record funding thanks mainly due to Coalition governments, with Howard being the catalyst for that.

If successive governments didn't squander what little dividends they got from the resources sector or more importantly taxed the big multinationals more for OUR resources they are digging up or drilling for rediculously low cost is near on criminal. Qatar, Norway & other nations have the multinationals pay a fair share of tax and establishing sovereign wealth funds. We have governments (usually of certain a political stripe) that want to give the Reinharts, Forrests, Chevrons, Woodsides, Shells etc of the world a TAX CUT.

Tax the big corporations at a fair rate, reduce what they can use to claim deductions like internal loans, setting up an office in a tax haven for profits made here and all the other dodgy crap they get away with then we'd have much more money to fix what we are already lucky to have compared to most countries when it comes to hospitals, roads & other infrastructure. Just imagine how much money the Mining Super Profits Tax (the ones the Coalition said would raise no money so they dumped it) would have made in the last decade, most of it a mining boom.

Income Tax cuts for the wealthy was the Coalitions plan, luckily someone fixed that and everyone got a cut. However wouldn't that money have been better off spent on health or infrastructure?
Quick question Dazz. At what tax rate do you think individuals or businesses will simply just get up and leave rather than pay all these taxes?

You can't keep taxing people more and giving them less.

In any case, why would you be opposed to 0% taxes on everything if the same revenues came from investment dividends or some other revenue stream? 0% should absolutely be the goal. It's lazy to stare at the rich and put your hand out every time you need a buck. In fact, it's mainly the middle class that saddle the burden. Government needs to think about becoming self sufficient.
 
The reason we have had high inflation is because of the bad economic decisions and "money printing" by governments during COVID.

That would be Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon's US government, Boris Johnson's UK government and Scott Morrison's AUS government.

They overcooked their own and the world's economy leading to run away inflation and a struggling supply chain trying to keep up with artificially stimulated demand.
Yeah that'll do it. Who knew that shutting your whole economy down for two years would create a debt burden.
 
The so called Free democratic World deserves a Donald to prove that its not working .Those Norwegians, Icelandic's etc ,that region has a good master plan for their people
 
I dont care about the murder, rapes, theft, assaults, illegal entry into a foreign nation. All i want to know is if they are deported who is going to pick the cotton? The lefties have a pretty valid point. Who is going to work for exploitative wages now? Im terrified and havent stopped crying for the poor undocumented immigrants for a week now. Think of the children. Trumps such a monster.
 
Half the country are behind him at minimum.
This is such an ill informed take.
Only 23% (77.3m) of the total population (335m) voted for Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. Of the people who voted (152.3m), less than half voted for him (49.8%). He did well but he’s not exactly on stable ground.
 
Only 23% (77.3m) of the total population (335m) voted for Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. Of the people who voted (152.3m), less than half voted for him (49.8%). He did well but he’s not exactly on stable ground.
Oh, beg my pardon…..Only 77.3m people.
 
I dont care about the murder, rapes, theft, assaults, illegal entry into a foreign nation. All i want to know is if they are deported who is going to pick the cotton? The lefties have a pretty valid point. Who is going to work for exploitative wages now? Im terrified and havent stopped crying for the poor undocumented immigrants for a week now. Think of the children. Trumps such a monster.
Come on now Winston. I don't think the right wing is the party for minimum wages. Loose ground there my friend... and we all know the states that wanted to keep their cotton pickers.

Low-wage or not, yanking out a lot of the unskilled workforce while simultaneously implementing tariffs is risky. Both will directly lead to inflation.

Watch Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon slow down or wind back some of this if he is smart.
 
Oh, beg my pardon…..Only 77.3m people.
But mate only 77.3m of the 335m voted for Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon. What about the 2-5 year olds? To be fair, that was Kamalas target audience and the only age bracket that had any idea what Biden was saying, so who knows what could have happened if they voted.
 
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