Driver Beware:

weststigers said:
Case in point....WTF is an "e-safety commissioner"?

Did anyone ask if I want to be part of this "e-safety"? Can I opt-out? Is it at all possible I can manage my own "e-safety" the way I see fit?

Fkn nanny state
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E safety commissioner is a “job for the boys” type position for sure.
 
Spartan117 said:
Put your seatbelt on, don't use your phone.

It's not that hard.
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We already have laws for that.

The logical endpoint of supporting AI facial recognition cameras everywhere on the roads, is also having them in the home, to ensure you're not breaking any laws behind closed doors. "If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to fear", eh?
 
innsaneink said:
Because there are serious morons out there that need to be told/reminded daily to protect themselves from themselves
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There certainly is.
I know a girl who likes to drive with her foot resting on the dashboard or arm rest or even under her bum.
"only need one foot in an auto" she reckons.
 
I understand why people would think it's revenue raising, however my point against that is wearing seatbelt saves people from injuries.

Injuries are covered with CTP, which is essentially paid for by the government. I have no idea about the math behind it all but more people that stay off their phones, wear seatbelts and do the right things, the more likely it is our CTP premiums won't go up that much. My issue is more the demerits and how pedantic it is with all that.

Stopping at the lights, you can drink tea and eat a sandwich but can't put your phone on charge or take your phone out of your pocket and put it in the console etc. Sounds a little stupid to me.
 
innsaneink said:
They look to me like the overhead mobile phone surveillance cameras.
Wouldn't take much recalibrating or whatever it is they do to include seatbelts as well
But I'm no expert and have no agenda
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They monitor (and issue infringements) for both in QLD. $1161 fine for using your mobile while driving.
 
6 pages of mostly gobbledygook.

Seriously people expect privacy in a public place, step out of your home you lose all rights to privacy.

Oh no, they can see me, see what I'm doing and that I may be doing something naughty, then wear a paper bag over your head if you're that concerned or just don't leave your home.
 
PrattenParkMagpie said:
6 pages of mostly gobbledygook.

Seriously people expect privacy in a public place, step out of your home you lose all rights to privacy.

Oh no, they can see me, see what I'm doing and that I may be doing something naughty, then wear a paper bag over your head if you're that concerned or just don't leave your home.
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What's your full name, date of birth and street address? The internet is a public place, and after all you have no right to privacy, you said so yourself.
 
PrattenParkMagpie said:
6 pages of mostly gobbledygook.

Seriously people expect privacy in a public place, step out of your home you lose all rights to privacy.

Oh no, they can see me, see what I'm doing and that I may be doing something naughty, then wear a paper bag over your head if you're that concerned or just don't leave your home.
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Not sure if you’re being facetious or not but if you think about what you’re saying, it’s a little scary.

We have been conditioned to accept that if we are outside, we somehow have given up any right to privacy??? I didn’t agree to that but if I want to use self checkout, my face will be logged. Go to buy some paint at bunnings, I’m logged. I know we are told that the video is watched by security staff but I know there are certain business that filter this through a AI facial recognition software. I’m not saying it’s used for something “evil” BUT imagine a time when your face is used for targeted advertising. Last time you were in Cole’s you purchased a certain coffee, next time you come in you are alerted that the coffee is on sale. Helpful right? Until they sell that data or it’s hacked and sold…then your likeness, your shopping habits, your football team ( stadiums use FR) is all available and with AI face reconstruction that’s available now, who knows?

Again, at these early stages I don’t think it’s too scary but the more you accept without asking why, the easier it is to get to a much scarier place.

Also, people who don’t wear seatbelts are doing the gene pool a favor. I’d rather they not catch them and let nature take its course.
 
The Fresh Oil said:
Not sure if you’re being facetious or not but if you think about what you’re saying, it’s a little scary.

We have been conditioned to accept that if we are outside, we somehow have given up any right to privacy??? I didn’t agree to that but if I want to use self checkout, my face will be logged. Go to buy some paint at bunnings, I’m logged. I know we are told that the video is watched by security staff but I know there are certain business that filter this through a AI facial recognition software. I’m not saying it’s used for something “evil” BUT imagine a time when your face is used for targeted advertising. Last time you were in Cole’s you purchased a certain coffee, next time you come in you are alerted that the coffee is on sale. Helpful right? Until they sell that data or it’s hacked and sold…then your likeness, your shopping habits, your football team ( stadiums use FR) is all available and with AI face reconstruction that’s available now, who knows?

Again, at these early stages I don’t think it’s too scary but the more you accept without asking why, the easier it is to get to a much scarier place.

Also, people who don’t wear seatbelts are doing the gene pool a favor. I’d rather they not catch them and let nature take its course.
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So I gather you dont accept it... And you do ask why... How does that make getting to the scary place a bit more difficult than someone who does the opposite... Those that do Accept it and don't ask why?
 
Tucker said:
There certainly is.
I know a girl who likes to drive with her foot resting on the dashboard or arm rest or even under her bum.
"only need one foot in an auto" she reckons.
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I was in a car with a girl a year or two ago who was texting while she was driving. And not just quick one or two word texts. Talking actual paragraphs. On a highway of all places
 
innsaneink said:
So I gather you dont accept it... And you do ask why... How does that make getting to the scary place a bit more difficult than someone who does the opposite... Those that do Accept it and don't ask why?
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More people question. More possibility of changing.

It’s very simple economics. Bunnings got backlash against FR software in stores and punted it. The $$$$ will be the intimate yard stick on what’s acceptable. What I saw in the post I replied to was someone saying “ if you’re not doing anything wrong, don’t worry about it” that type of sentiment , imho, is a mixture of stupidity and dangerous. Stupiderous™️
 
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