Dropped Lolohea faces fullback challenge

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Wests Tigers fullback Tui Lolohea admits coach Ivan Cleary has told him he has "things to work on" in a reserve grade trial for the Magpies this weekend as club-mate Corey Thompson assumes the No.1 jersey for the top squad against Canterbury.

Former Bulldogs winger Thompson is back in the country after an impressive two-season stint with Widnes in the UK where he scored close to a try per game and played on both flanks with a few games at fullback.
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Thompson was also one of the team's best in a 30-16 trial win over the Cowboys in Cairns on Saturday, including a second-half stint at fullback which was one of the team's best passages of play for the match.

The 27-year-old has been rewarded with the No.1 jersey this weekend, leaving Lolohea to contemplate a serious challenge to the fullback role many assumed he would simply inherit from now-Rooster James Tedesco.

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"I've had a good chat with Ivan and there are some things I need to do," Lolohea told NRL.com.

"I'm really excited for this weekend and I can't wait to rip in with the boys. I'll be meeting some of the boys this week for the first time but I'm looking forward to having a consistent 80-minute game and just getting an 80-minute game under my belt."

The chance to play big minutes at the back to work on a few things was part of the reason for his demotion, according to Lolohea, but he was reluctant to expand on what exactly he needed to work on.

"I've had a good chat with Ivan and there are some things we've talked about. It's a good chance for me to put those things into practice," he said.

"I just kind of want to keep that between ourselves, that's the chat we've had and that's how it's going to stay."
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After some inconsistent seasons at the Warriors where he was constantly shuffled around, including into a wing role where he openly admits he was not comfortable, followed by a half-season in the black and gold No.6 jersey, Lolohea was at least relishing the chance to focus on one position through the pre-season.

"It's good to stay in one position but I still need to get better, each day, each week," he said.

"It's good to get a pre-season at fullback. You get to analyse your game, your training sessions, you find out where your weaknesses are. Now that's done it's footy time where it's all going to happen and you get the chance to analyse your game a bit better and I'm excited for the season ahead.

"My main goal for this year is to be consistent, try and be a consistent fullback and just do my job for the team week in week out."

For his part, Thompson was relishing the opportunity this weekend presents to him in part because he is also among a log-jam of players (including fellow recruit Mahe Fonua and incumbent Malakai Watene-Zelezniak) vying for a left-wing spot with David Nofoaluma having a mortgage on the opposite flank.

"Growing up I was a fullback, all through juniors I was there, I've always had that little desire to play there. When I was at the Dogs I was fullback in reserve grade but in first grade every game I was on the wing and I got accustomed to that," Thompson told NRL.com of the chance presented to him this Saturday.
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"I played left wing, right wing and a few games at fullback [at Widnes]. It doesn't bother me where I play. This pre-season me and Tui have trained out the back and it's helped with my fitness levels too.

"Some clubs don't take depth into account and I think it's very important. Me and Tui push each other too so we're always helping each other, if we see something that we could work better at, it's good, we need that. I'm vying for a wing spot as well. All the backs are fighting for their jobs."
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https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/02/22/dropped-lolohea-faces-fullback-challenge/
 
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Anyone seen Russell..

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Russell told us Tui was better than RTS, yet he lost the 1 jumper to Thompson in our team, so going off that RTS would be reserve for reserve grade if he was here, go figure
 
Looking at our draw Tui might b e better off long term playing reserve grade for the first month or so. I still say he is our best option for the no1 job by some distant, but once again it is very hard to fault Cleary
 
He'll set reggies alight… Just don't see us beating the rorters without him at the back. Come on Tui, do a couple garbage bag runs round the block while you're at it.
 
If I recall correctly, Tui was the last one to come back to training post World Cup and this would have him behind in fitness a little as well, which with his seemingly natural body would not have helped him. Expecting him to bounce back and grab the spot.
 
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Anyone seen Russell..

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Russell told us Tui was better than RTS, yet he lost the 1 jumper to Thompson in our team, so going off that RTS would be reserve for reserve grade if he was here, go figure

Don't recall saying Tui was better than RTS - can you cut and paste that 851.

I remember saying I would rather have Tui than RTS in the FB spot for us.

I remember saying I thought Tui was a better defending FB than RTS.

I remember saying for the cost of both players, Tui was better value.

Anyway, let's see what happens.

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Anyone seen Russell..

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Russell told us Tui was better than RTS, yet he lost the 1 jumper to Thompson in our team, so going off that RTS would be reserve for reserve grade if he was here, go figure

You want to drop Brooks for a kid whose played one half of a trial game. Glass houses.
 
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Tui will play a lot of games this year. Not sure what the kid has done that has so many against him.

Every year there is a forum target, poor Fitzy copped it for 1/2 a decade, this year Brooks and Tui and maybe Lawrence will be the targets. On what I saw at the back end of 2016, Tui was the only one that could change a game and that includes Tedesco
 
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Tui will play a lot of games this year. Not sure what the kid has done that has so many against him.

I don't think it's really a bad thing. Tui obviously needs to work on a couple of things, namely his chatter and organisation at the back and doing it in a slower paced and lesser quality game is a good way to do it, similar to a training run in a sense. You'd think that if he kills it and ticks all the right boxes that he'll still be there come Round 1, seeing as though he didn't play badly by any stretch last week, he just needs to tweak his game a little.
 
Good to see no one is safe, Brooks will need to up his kicking game or he will find himself in the same position.

Tui will be back in first grade, as people have said he will be abit behind in fitness coming back late and will need to work on a few things at the back. Not sure how he is under the highball as he was hardly tested. But I am guessing positioning and chatter at the back.
 
Haha Ivan has plenty fooled I see! Tui is a certain starter for the Roosters game IMO, good to keep everyone speculating though. Including Mumps Robbo n co. Thompson will be on the wing or more likely the utility player come Round 1, Benji is underdone after being midwife for the last few weeks- his mind will definitely be elsewhere after being a Dad-in-waiting. Tui will go good against the Roosters.
 
There is another article where Tui says "we don't want to make a big deal about it"

Read into that and seeing how Tui is a pretty straight laced guy I think it's safe to assume that Ivan hasn't given up on him and this is simply about fitness and working in a couple of things.

Every chance to be there round 1
 
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Tui will play a lot of games this year. Not sure what the kid has done that has so many against him.

Every year there is a forum target, poor Fitzy copped it for 1/2 a decade, this year Brooks and Tui and maybe Lawrence will be the targets. On what I saw at the back end of 2016, Tui was the only one that could change a game and that includes Tedesco

Who's against him? I cant find one poster who is against Tui doing well for us, and cant see one post that is happy he's been picked in reserve grade.
 
Problem is like cricket if your replacement scores a ton your a dead duck. Especially if your not an established star.

Thompson jobs to lose this Saturday Night I reckon. Of course I would prepare a fully fit Lolihea however if he cant go hard for 80 minutes then reserve grade is a good place for him.
 
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Tui will play a lot of games this year. Not sure what the kid has done that has so many against him.

Every year there is a forum target, poor Fitzy copped it for 1/2 a decade, this year Brooks and Tui and maybe Lawrence will be the targets. On what I saw at the back end of 2016, Tui was the only one that could change a game and that includes Tedesco

Who's against him? I cant find one poster who is against Tui doing well for us, and cant see one post that is happy he's been picked in reserve grade.

There seem to be a few who take great joy in reminding Russell when something goes against Tui.
 
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