Drugs, sex, domestic violence: football’s cover-up

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/sam-burgess-slams-his-father-in-law-mitch-hooke-as-a-biased-witness/ar-BB1aPdqb?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=ientp
 
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-star-sam-burgess-guilty-of-intimidating-former-fatherinlaw-mitch-hooke/news-story/dea97b3e7e99b2d48e55df599a3a7b59

guilty of intimidation
 
@newtown said in [Drugs said:
@nelson said in [Drugs said:
@the_third said in [Drugs said:
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-star-sam-burgess-guilty-of-intimidating-former-fatherinlaw-mitch-hooke/news-story/dea97b3e7e99b2d48e55df599a3a7b59

guilty of intimidation

For now at least, no doubt they'll appeal it...

I think it's a clear cut judgement.
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I wasn't commenting on the merits of the judgment, he has a right of appeal to the District Court which is heard as a rehearing where the Judge forms their own judgment of the facts. Someone in his position (who will want to continue to deny the allegations in public) is just highly likely to exercise that right of appeal (like Greg Bird did).
 
There are many examples of why violence can do nothing but produce negative outcomes. Craig Field should be getting close to a release after serving 10 years in prison following a street brawl. Worse still the other guy didn’t survive. Make good choices people.
 
@nelson said in [Drugs said:
@the_third said in [Drugs said:
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-star-sam-burgess-guilty-of-intimidating-former-fatherinlaw-mitch-hooke/news-story/dea97b3e7e99b2d48e55df599a3a7b59

guilty of intimidation

For now at least, no doubt they'll appeal it...
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Surely I ntimidation may be hard to appeal. Ex nrl player standing over a 63 year old and yelling etc. He got off the other charge. If (big if) he’s smart he should just walk away. No doubt his lawyer is after another paycheque though so who knows what will happen.
 
@the_third said in [Drugs said:
@nelson said in [Drugs said:
@the_third said in [Drugs said:
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-star-sam-burgess-guilty-of-intimidating-former-fatherinlaw-mitch-hooke/news-story/dea97b3e7e99b2d48e55df599a3a7b59

guilty of intimidation

For now at least, no doubt they'll appeal it...

Surely I ntimidation may be hard to appeal. Ex nrl player standing over a 63 year old and yelling etc. He got off the other charge. If (big if) he’s smart he should just walk away. No doubt his lawyer is after another paycheque though so who knows what will happen.
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He's not in any jeopardy of being convicted of the charge on which he was acquitted, so he likely sees that he has nothing to lose by appealing. That kind of appeal isn't complicated and shouldn't be expensive, so the money wouldn't discourage him given it's his reputation and clean record on the line.

You'd have thought Greg Bird's case was unlikely to be reversed on appeal too but these things happen from time to time. They'll probably argue that the judge should entertain a reasonable doubt that the events happened as the victims claimed given the animosity between the parties and the other actions that the victims took to damage his reputation, plus they'll critique the magistrate's credit findings.
 
I cant stand Sam Burgess as much or more than the next guy. Grub on and off the field, but IMO this judgement is ridiculous. There was nothing in the evidence that pointed to anything more than two men yelling at each other and calling each other names. Im sure it was ugly and unpleasant but to take it to court like this I find pretty wrong.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Drugs said:
I cant stand Sam Burgess as much or more than the next guy. Grub on and off the field, but IMO this judgement is ridiculous. There was nothing in the evidence that pointed to anything more than two men yelling at each other and calling each other names. Im sure it was ugly and unpleasant but to take it to court like this I find pretty wrong.
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I think either way it now goes his NRL career is all but over
 
@tigerwest said in [Drugs said:
@tiger5150 said in [Drugs said:
I cant stand Sam Burgess as much or more than the next guy. Grub on and off the field, but IMO this judgement is ridiculous. There was nothing in the evidence that pointed to anything more than two men yelling at each other and calling each other names. Im sure it was ugly and unpleasant but to take it to court like this I find pretty wrong.

I think either way it now goes his NRL career is all but over
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I agree his career is over but I would think his age, time out of the game and supposedly fragile shoulder would be a bigger factor in the end of his career than this judgement.
 
So when does the rest of it, the Rabbitohs doctor injecting him with HGH or whatever it was in a carpark etc, get dealt with? Anyone know?
 
@tiger5150 said in [Drugs said:
@tigerwest said in [Drugs said:
@tiger5150 said in [Drugs said:
I cant stand Sam Burgess as much or more than the next guy. Grub on and off the field, but IMO this judgement is ridiculous. There was nothing in the evidence that pointed to anything more than two men yelling at each other and calling each other names. Im sure it was ugly and unpleasant but to take it to court like this I find pretty wrong.

I think either way it now goes his NRL career is all but over


I agree his career is over but I would think his age, time out of the game and supposedly fragile shoulder would be a bigger factor in the end of his career than this judgement.
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I didn't mean on the footy field?
 
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Drugs said:
The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.
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Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.
 
@strongee said in [Drugs said:
@pawsandclaws1 said in [Drugs said:
The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.
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I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.
 
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