Drugs, sex, domestic violence: football’s cover-up

[Tiger5150]

The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

Infidelity is a low act and hurts many parties very badly, but it is completely unrelated to this case. Based on what is publicly known, Im sure Sam is a piece of work and I dont blame his ex wife for grabbing the kids and getting out of that arrangement. I know first hand how painful a family breakdown is.

This case though, based on the evidence release publicly, is simply two men yelling at each other and calling each other names. Obviously there is a massive imbalance in age and size but that is irrelevant unless they come to blows. IMO this Phoebe's dad (with ot without Phoebes assistance) is simply lashing out at the ex husband to hurt him with the assets that he has out of balance with Sam (contacts and $$$).

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

What ? Eat turds mate. I don’t cheat on my wife . I’m just able to see the complexities , of the human condition , and how attraction can be undeniable , and also how relationships can die a slow death . Even if one half of the relationship doesn’t want to admit it.
You think like a child . My feelings are hurt , so I am abused ... Garbage . You need to harden up and realise , people are selfish . You only have 1 life . It’s a choice how you live it . And a choice. how you treat people both good and bad .
If getting cheated on is he worst thing that happens to you, and you want to claim your abused and therefore are some kind of victim , then I wish I lived that kind of charmed existence .
People suck . They hurt people . Your not a victim , just someone who met someone who sucks and now you learn from it .
It’s insulting to people who actually have been through way worse things , and refuse to use words like abused and victim .

Edit ; by the way , I’ve been cheated on , had my fiancé leave me for some bloke and put massive holes in walls when she ran off with some bloke .
Do I hate her no. Did it burn me at the time . Yep . It broke my heart. But 13 years on , I see that our relationship was built on a crappy foundation , she was homesick , as I was away for work a lot , and I valued hanging with friends way more than her . I treated her well , sure , but that’s not enough . We just weren’t mature enough to deal with adult problems in our mid 20s . I hope she is living a good life full of love , and she’s genuinely happy . Her dad , left her mom for the tennis instructor , so she had messed up ideas of what relationships were , and I just wanted someone to party with and hang out with .
Pick your gear , up take a step forward , realise , that she/ he might not be malicious , but doing what they need to , to get through whatever messed up things they are going through . Some people are evil , and do some heinous stuff , but really , that’s such a low percentage . Most just want to be happy , and put thier happiness above anyone else’s .

 

[Tigerbuck63]

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-star-sam-burgess-guilty-of-intimidating-former-fatherinlaw-mitch-hooke/news-story/dea97b3e7e99b2d48e55df599a3a7b59

guilty of intimidation

Could not care one bit about Sam Burgess and what happens in his personal life. Sounds messy lets hope all parties move on and get on with there lives.

 

[Russell]

I cant stand Sam Burgess as much or more than the next guy. Grub on and off the field, but IMO this judgement is ridiculous. There was nothing in the evidence that pointed to anything more than two men yelling at each other and calling each other names. Im sure it was ugly and unpleasant but to take it to court like this I find pretty wrong.

I think either way it now goes his NRL career is all but over

Hopefully!

 

[69-05-41]

Is Scummy Summy still coaching teenagers as part of his Souffs "job" for life? What an awesome role model to teach kids essential life skills.

 

[supercoach]

Reading another forum and some here I can’t believe how many people thing Sam got a rough deal. I know there is always two sides to any domestic problem, but big Sam had a good legal team and a fair chance to defend himself.

I wonder if it was your daughter and you had big Sam all fired up and in your face if you would feel the same

 

[JD Tiger]

The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

Yeah that's low saying that. You can't accuse some person I presume you've never met of cheating on their partner. Way out of line there.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

Yeah that's low saying that. You can't accuse some person I presume you've never met of cheating on their partner. Way out of line there.

Yea I was not happy with what he said . Pretty low to just accuse someone of being a dog , with no evidence , other than general chatter on a forum . Not that it needs to be said , But for the record , I’m a faithful loving father/husband , who doesn’t have the time or energy to manage 2 women , or desire. I don’t understand how you could want to deal with the headaches and secrecy, plus I love my wife , she’s a good egg .
Whatever , he knows what I think . It is what it is .

 

[Telltails]

Not a supporter of Sam Burgess or his behaviour but Mitch Hooke reeks of arrogant self entitlement. It was always going to end up ugly with these two.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

What ? Eat turds mate. I don’t cheat on my wife . I’m just able to see the complexities , of the human condition , and how attraction can be undeniable , and also how relationships can die a slow death . Even if one half of the relationship doesn’t want to admit it.
You think like a child . My feelings are hurt , so I am abused ... Garbage . You need to harden up and realise , people are selfish . You only have 1 life . It’s a choice how you live it . And a choice. how you treat people both good and bad .
If getting cheated on is he worst thing that happens to you, and you want to claim your abused and therefore are some kind of victim , then I wish I lived that kind of charmed existence .
People suck . They hurt people . Your not a victim , just someone who met someone who sucks and now you learn from it .
It’s insulting to people who actually have been through way worse things , and refuse to use words like abused and victim .

Edit ; by the way , I’ve been cheated on , had my fiancé leave me for some bloke and put massive holes in walls when she ran off with some bloke .
Do I hate her no. Did it burn me at the time . Yep . It broke my heart. But 13 years on , I see that our relationship was built on a crappy foundation , she was homesick , as I was away for work a lot , and I valued hanging with friends way more than her . I treated her well , sure , but that’s not enough . We just weren’t mature enough to deal with adult problems in our mid 20s . I hope she is living a good life full of love , and she’s genuinely happy . Her dad , left her mom for the tennis instructor , so she had messed up ideas of what relationships were , and I just wanted someone to party with and hang out with .
Pick your gear , up take a step forward , realise , that she/ he might not be malicious , but doing what they need to , to get through whatever messed up things they are going through . Some people are evil , and do some heinous stuff , but really , that’s such a low percentage . Most just want to be happy , and put thier happiness above anyone else’s .

I wasn't referring to you. If it read that way it was unintended.

I believe this issue began with certain photos being sent to a young lady detailing a certain part of the body. That also is a form of cheating. It was all over the media at the time.

 

[innsaneink]

The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

Yeah that's low saying that. You can't accuse some person I presume you've never met of cheating on their partner. Way out of line there.

Yea I was not happy with what he said . Pretty low to just accuse someone of being a dog , with no evidence , other than general chatter on a forum . Not that it needs to be said , But for the record , I’m a faithful loving father/husband , who doesn’t have the time or energy to manage 2 women , or desire. I don’t understand how you could want to deal with the headaches and secrecy, plus I love my wife , she’s a good egg .
Whatever , he knows what I think . It is what it is .

He's not referring to you specifically... He's saying "you" more as an example on the topic... not you specifically...
I didn't see him as attacking you when I first read it

 

[TrueTiger]

Not a supporter of Sam Burgess or his behaviour but Mitch Hooke reeks of arrogant self entitlement. It was always going to end up ugly with these two.

What Sam has done in his personal life he has to deal with between himself and his wife...Understandably the father in law is protective of his daughter,however if M.Hooke hadnt threatened to ruin Sams career,this may have had a different outcome between him and Sam..not sure,but as someone else has stated...its messy...

 

[Tiger5150]

Reading another forum and some here I can’t believe how many people thing Sam got a rough deal. I know there is always two sides to any ***domestic problem***, but big Sam had a good legal team and a fair chance to defend himself.

I wonder if it was your daughter and you had big Sam all fired up and in your face if you would feel the same

You have said it yourself, its a domestic problem, two grown men yelling at each other and calling each other names. Doesnt belong in court.

If it was my daughter? I would be incredibly upset, angry, grateful that my girl was out of that relationship but I'd be a big enough man not to get cops and courts invlolved.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

Yeah that's low saying that. You can't accuse some person I presume you've never met of cheating on their partner. Way out of line there.

Yea I was not happy with what he said . Pretty low to just accuse someone of being a dog , with no evidence , other than general chatter on a forum . Not that it needs to be said , But for the record , I’m a faithful loving father/husband , who doesn’t have the time or energy to manage 2 women , or desire. I don’t understand how you could want to deal with the headaches and secrecy, plus I love my wife , she’s a good egg .
Whatever , he knows what I think . It is what it is .

He's not referring to you specifically... He's saying "you" more as an exame not you specifically... I think..

Normally I’d agree with you, as I use “you” like that as well, but it was a direct reply to my specific comment . He even references my wife/husband that’s not a generalised comment . It shows a real lack of awareness , to claim some moral high ground , but you go down to the dirt to try and prove your point . Which it didn’t . It just made me think , the guy lacks any fortitude.

One final point . When you use words like abused and victim, and think like an abused victim , you become that . In many things in life , you can take ownership of the situation , if you take control of the things you did , or can do to change something in the future .
For example ; your partner cheats on you. Whilst it’s easy to say , it’s all thier fault , I’m the victim and cry yourself into your pillow , smashing beers/wine and pints of ice cream , what’s probably more the truth is you very much contributed to this relationship breakdown in a bigger way.
Maybe it’s , you were cold to them , and treated them as you were doing them a favour , maybe you were lazy and never cleaned up after yourself , maybe you were a dick to thier friends and family , or maybe they are a giant turd of a human , so you need to recalibrate your partner meter for future relationships . It doesn’t excuse the other persons behaviour , but it gives you more ownership over the situation , rather than crying to your pillow wondering why me .

This is what real abuse victims do . There’s a power in accountability for what you can control . Otherwise you give all the power to other people , mainly , the person who did that too you .
But whatever the world definitely needs another sub category for people to feel victimised . Maybe the next one will be “your abused if someone gets angry at you” I mean that’s where we are headed right ? Everyone wants a cuddle ? Yea sorry , that’s such a first world problem . And reeks of entitlement.

 

[Tiger5150]

The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

What ? Eat turds mate. I don’t cheat on my wife . I’m just able to see the complexities , of the human condition , and how attraction can be undeniable , and also how relationships can die a slow death . Even if one half of the relationship doesn’t want to admit it.
You think like a child . My feelings are hurt , so I am abused ... Garbage . You need to harden up and realise , people are selfish . You only have 1 life . It’s a choice how you live it . And a choice. how you treat people both good and bad .
If getting cheated on is he worst thing that happens to you, and you want to claim your abused and therefore are some kind of victim , then I wish I lived that kind of charmed existence .
People suck . They hurt people . Your not a victim , just someone who met someone who sucks and now you learn from it .
It’s insulting to people who actually have been through way worse things , and refuse to use words like abused and victim .

Edit ; by the way , I’ve been cheated on , had my fiancé leave me for some bloke and put massive holes in walls when she ran off with some bloke .
Do I hate her no. Did it burn me at the time . Yep . It broke my heart. But 13 years on , I see that our relationship was built on a crappy foundation , she was homesick , as I was away for work a lot , and I valued hanging with friends way more than her . I treated her well , sure , but that’s not enough . We just weren’t mature enough to deal with adult problems in our mid 20s . I hope she is living a good life full of love , and she’s genuinely happy . Her dad , left her mom for the tennis instructor , so she had messed up ideas of what relationships were , and I just wanted someone to party with and hang out with .
Pick your gear , up take a step forward , realise , that she/ he might not be malicious , but doing what they need to , to get through whatever messed up things they are going through . Some people are evil , and do some heinous stuff , but really , that’s such a low percentage . Most just want to be happy , and put thier happiness above anyone else’s .

I wasn't referring to you. If it read that way it was unintended.

I believe this issue began with certain photos being sent to a young lady detailing a certain part of the body. That also is a form of cheating. It was all over the media at the time.

He followed up and actually cheated, down in Melbourne, its well documented. He is a dog of a bloke. Totally unrelated to this court action though.

 

[Tiger5150]

Not my circus, not my monkeys but I have a lot of time and respect for both of you guys.

For what its worth, Id be very upset if someone here said or implied I was cheating on my missus, but I genuinely didnt read it that way, I assumed he was speaking generically.

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Not my circus, not my monkeys but I have a lot of time and respect for both of you guys.

For what its worth, Id be very upset if someone here said or implied I was cheating on my missus, but I genuinely didnt read it that way, I assumed he was speaking generically.

Yea well I clearly read it the other way. And I’m not the only one. Either way , it clearly got under my skin . For me I’d have apologised immediately , if only for the misunderstanding . Which I have done in the past. So whatever I’ve made my point . I’ll let it go now .

 

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The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

What ? Eat turds mate. I don’t cheat on my wife . I’m just able to see the complexities , of the human condition , and how attraction can be undeniable , and also how relationships can die a slow death . Even if one half of the relationship doesn’t want to admit it.
You think like a child . My feelings are hurt , so I am abused ... Garbage . You need to harden up and realise , people are selfish . You only have 1 life . It’s a choice how you live it . And a choice. how you treat people both good and bad .
If getting cheated on is he worst thing that happens to you, and you want to claim your abused and therefore are some kind of victim , then I wish I lived that kind of charmed existence .
People suck . They hurt people . Your not a victim , just someone who met someone who sucks and now you learn from it .
It’s insulting to people who actually have been through way worse things , and refuse to use words like abused and victim .

Edit ; by the way , I’ve been cheated on , had my fiancé leave me for some bloke and put massive holes in walls when she ran off with some bloke .
Do I hate her no. Did it burn me at the time . Yep . It broke my heart. But 13 years on , I see that our relationship was built on a crappy foundation , she was homesick , as I was away for work a lot , and I valued hanging with friends way more than her . I treated her well , sure , but that’s not enough . We just weren’t mature enough to deal with adult problems in our mid 20s . I hope she is living a good life full of love , and she’s genuinely happy . Her dad , left her mom for the tennis instructor , so she had messed up ideas of what relationships were , and I just wanted someone to party with and hang out with .
Pick your gear , up take a step forward , realise , that she/ he might not be malicious , but doing what they need to , to get through whatever messed up things they are going through . Some people are evil , and do some heinous stuff , but really , that’s such a low percentage . Most just want to be happy , and put thier happiness above anyone else’s .

I wasn't referring to you. If it read that way it was unintended.

I believe this issue began with certain photos being sent to a young lady detailing a certain part of the body. That also is a form of cheating. It was all over the media at the time.

Wow , you lack integrity . You were ? talking to me . And now you want to throw away like I misread you ? Rather than just say , yea my bad , I shouldn’t have said that ? And you want to question other people’s morality ? Your a joke .

I know what I wrote and I believed I clarified my intent. You do not know me and cannot make comment about my character.

You were pretty keen to about me .Your full of hot garbage. Here you go again claiming to be victim . You’re pathetic .

I've demonstrated patience with you but there is a limit. Please do not bother responding.

Lol so your not going to apologise? And make up a story , when it’s obvious that , what your original meaning was ? If I ever see you comment on morality again , this conversation will start up. You don’t get a free pass .

And just for clarity , if you genuinely did accidentally accuse me of cheating , and you saw my reaction , most people would apologise immediately, not wait for another forumer to give you an out. Especially when you can see how it made me react. Youre a liar and lack integrity.

He has pretty much told you that it was misinterpreted. That's all that needs to be said. Typed words are easily misinterpreted.
No need to get abusive IMO and throw personal attacks. A bit over the top reaction-wise.

 

[Spud_Murphy]

The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

Yeah that's low saying that. You can't accuse some person I presume you've never met of cheating on their partner. Way out of line there.

Yea I was not happy with what he said . Pretty low to just accuse someone of being a dog , with no evidence , other than general chatter on a forum . Not that it needs to be said , But for the record , I’m a faithful loving father/husband , who doesn’t have the time or energy to manage 2 women , or desire. I don’t understand how you could want to deal with the headaches and secrecy, plus I love my wife , she’s a good egg .
Whatever , he knows what I think . It is what it is .

Geez you both took what paws was saying completely wrong there! It wasn’t meant to be a personal attack. Think about it for a minute - how on earth would he even know that about you and then be silly enough to post it on a public forum?

That said, perhaps the grammar could’ve been better - Insert the word “if” before “you are still with your wife/husband/partner, but are seeing someone behind their back, *then* it’s cake eating at its finest”. Changes the whole context of the sentence.

Besides all that, if he was having a personal go at you why would he use all three possibles of wife/husband/partner? It was clearly a general statement about the people who actually do these things, not you.

 

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The victims of infidelity ie wives, husbands, partners often suffer from PTSD as a consequence of the behaviour associated with this type of betrayal. Many consider infidelity to be a form of abuse. So I have every sympathy for Phoebe and the distress she is no doubt experiencing. It can take up to 5 years for a victim of infidelity to recover.

Come on man . Infidelity is not abuse . Whilst it sux , that someone has to hurt like that , you should be allowed to leave someone and fall in love with whoever you want . If you screw around get a disease than give it to your partner that’s definitely abuse , but seriously thats ridiculous.

I believe the issue is you are still with your wife/husband/partner but are seeing someone behind their back. Cake eating at its finest.

Yeah that's low saying that. You can't accuse some person I presume you've never met of cheating on their partner. Way out of line there.

Yea I was not happy with what he said . Pretty low to just accuse someone of being a dog , with no evidence , other than general chatter on a forum . Not that it needs to be said , But for the record , I’m a faithful loving father/husband , who doesn’t have the time or energy to manage 2 women , or desire. I don’t understand how you could want to deal with the headaches and secrecy, plus I love my wife , she’s a good egg .
Whatever , he knows what I think . It is what it is .

Geez you both took what paws was saying completely wrong there! It wasn’t meant to be a personal attack. Think about it for a minute - how on earth would he even know that about you and then be silly enough to post it on a public forum?

That said, perhaps the grammar could’ve been better - Insert the word “if” before “you are still with your wife/husband/partner, but are seeing someone behind their back, *then* it’s cake eating at its finest”. Changes the whole context of the sentence.

Besides all that, if he was having a personal go at you why would he use all three possibles of wife/husband/partner? It was clearly a general statement about the people who actually do these things, not you.

Spot on Spud, well said.