Electric bills

[Spartan117]

The Australian government are in bed with the banks and the green scam

Next time I vote it's One Nation honestly they could not do a worst job

Interest rates going up again bad times ahead

Not on bed with the banks.

Banks like conservative better as it encourages investment and business growth.

Labor is socialist, high tax High spend.

 

[twentyforty]

Timely fiscal and science based provision of electricity that benefits everyone.

I meant in practical terms. Not in political speak.
I realise some of us are like the Blues brothers, on a mission from God, saving the planet.
What I do know is that when the government increases costs to the little guy there’s a shift in wealth from the poor to the wealthy. People like Al Gore and Bill Clinton are increasing their wealth but who are the big players? Who are the owners of numerous wind turbines and why is the Australian taxpayer covering the cost of $1B to connect to the grid?

 

[gregjm87]

Last count China has 1700 coal power plants and are bringing online another 100 this year

Indian has around 1300 and have plans to build and 300 online in the next 5 years


What Australia has 2 or is it 3 and they are cutting one this year it's just crazy this green scam

This is only putting forth one side of an argument (and exaggerating it as well). Yes, China and India are by far the biggest polluters when it comes to fossil fuels. Yes, China and India are continuing to invest in Coal Power Stations. But:
China is also the world leader when it comes to solar. About half of the world's solar power is generated in China with several of the world's biggest solar farms found there, check out the Gonghe Talatan solar park as a reference. They are also right up there when it comes to wind.
China is investing in energy, 'clean' or not. They wouldn't be investing in solar and wind if it was not financially viable to do so.
Similarly India is ranked 4th in the world for energy produced by solar and have committed to significantly increasing this number. They are further investing in not just solar but again also wind and hydro (and coal). Like China they are investing in energy, both renewables and coal.
Australia has closer to 20 coal powered stations. What is being lost is the 3 in NSW slated to be decommissioned aren't because of a shift to renewables but because they have reached their life capacity. Their power production then obviously needs to be replaced and unfortunately yes, us tax payers will be funding that regardless of what the power source is. The question is do we replace it with new coal powered stations or renewables? Most projections suggest renewables are the cheaper option before you even start factoring in the CO2 emissions.

 

[Tim Sheens]

I meant in practical terms. Not in political speak.
I realise some of us are like the Blues brothers, on a mission from God, saving the planet.
What I do know is that when the government increases costs to the little guy there’s a shift in wealth from the poor to the wealthy. People like Al Gore and Bill Clinton are increasing their wealth but who are the big players? Who are the owners of numerous wind turbines and why is the Australian taxpayer covering the cost of $1B to connect to the grid?

Timely fiscal and science based provision of electricity that benefits everyone is about as practical as you can describe the current reality of the transition to renewable technologies. If you care to argue that on facts, you are welcome to bring it.

As for "political speak", the "Blues Brothers" esque "green scam" comment which you questioned is pretty well text book, as is bringing in Gore and Clinton that are basically irrelevant to Australian electricity bills.